jonathonpeddle
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Location: Newfounland, NF Joined: 11.24.2011
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They still have Hishon, Connolly and Sgabossa if that happens. - martok2309
i dont think we should rush and trade stammer just yet unless we get that no. 2 dman
if bufflo want him bad enough give us myers haha
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Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO Joined: 12.17.2007
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i dont think we should rush and trade stammer just yet unless we get that no. 2 dman - jonathonpeddle
Agreed. That's the only thing they should trade him for, considering they can get that top six winger in the summer. |
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jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Newfounland, NF Joined: 11.24.2011
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i say keep him till after july 1 see what options we have maybe we sign suter and we dont need to move him. or could move him for a top young winger. maybe winn would look at a swap of stanstny for kane??? never know |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Avs are looking good.
Can't wait for Siemens to join them. |
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Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Ann Arbor, MI Joined: 07.20.2011
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They still have Hishon, Connolly and Sgabossa if that happens. - martok2309
If that happens O'Reilly is still a 3rd line center. And I actually maintain that he is still a 3rd line center. (On our team) While yes Duchene is having a rough year between inconsistent positioning and injury. O'Reilly has 50 points.. not 60 or 65 in 66 games. Yes he has been our best and most consistent center this year.
But.. Those are not first line center numbers. Our other two centers have 67 and 70+ point seasons. O'Reilly is 3rd when it comes to offensive production. (Except this year) I am guessing he finishes somewhere near 60 points for the year. That is second line center numbers. (On pace for 62 points)
While all that sounds a little harsh.. I think everyone is jumping the gun a little thinking he should supplant one of the other two.
So for everyone who thinks we should trade Stastny because O'Reilly is producing. What happens when O'Reilly produces around the same or a little less next year, and after being traded and given consistent line mates. One of our centers is putting up 70 point seasons again. Or Duchene puts up 50 instead of 70.. Then you have 60/50 again..
I would be happy with 70/60/50 next year when hopefully all 3 are playing with a solid group of wingers. That happens we make the post season for sure. 60/50/35.. Not so sure. That is what this year is looking like with Duchene missing a major part of the season.
The good thing is with all three.. If one goes down for a significant amount of time. We still have a chance. Without Stastny this year we would of been in the basement. We don't have anyone else who is going to put up 50+ points a year besides Duchene and he was injured. It's called depth.. |
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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If that happens O'Reilly is still a 3rd line center. And I actually maintain that he is still a 3rd line center. (On our team) While yes Duchene is having a rough year between inconsistent positioning and injury. O'Reilly has 50 points.. not 60 or 65 in 66 games. Yes he has been our best and most consistent center this year.
But.. Those are not first line center numbers. Our other two centers have 67 and 70+ point seasons. O'Reilly is 3rd when it comes to offensive production. (Except this year) I am guessing he finishes somewhere near 60 points for the year. That is second line center numbers. (On pace for 62 points)
While all that sounds a little harsh.. I think everyone is jumping the gun a little thinking he should supplant one of the other two.
So for everyone who thinks we should trade Stastny because O'Reilly is producing. What happens when O'Reilly produces around the same or a little less next year, and after being traded and given consistent line mates. One of our centers is putting up 70 point seasons again. Or Duchene puts up 50 instead of 70.. Then you have 60/50 again..
I would be happy with 70/60/50 next year when hopefully all 3 are playing with a solid group of wingers. That happens we make the post season for sure. 60/50/35.. Not so sure. That is what this year is looking like with Duchene missing a major part of the season.
The good thing is with all three.. If one goes down for a significant amount of time. We still have a chance. Without Stastny this year we would of been in the basement. We don't have anyone else who is going to put up 50+ points a year besides Duchene and he was injured. It's called depth.. - Steve-B
As long as O'reilly plays with Gabe I dont see his point totals going down. Also If duchene has another 50 point season then the Avs need to realize that there is a problem that needs to be adressed, whether getting him new line mates or changing their style ect. Duchene is the Avs and we need him to do well no matter what.
Also we have depth in Hishon and Sgarbossa now. hishon is even more reason stastny is expendable. |
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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Avs are looking good.
Can't wait for Siemens to join them. - Scabeh
Same with me, I think he is still a year or 2 away though. |
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Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Ann Arbor, MI Joined: 07.20.2011
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Also we have depth in Hishon and Sgarbossa now. hishon is even more reason stastny is expendable. - Meeqsb
Once Hishon or Sgrabossa plays on the Avs roster during a regular season game and produces. Yes.. Until then.. No..
Or at least one or BOTH have a productive AHL season.
Our AHL team could be sick next year between Connolly, Sgrabossa, Hishon, Barrie, Gaunce, Siemens, and Pickard.. |
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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Once Hishon or Sgrabossa plays on the Avs roster during a regular season game and produces. Yes.. Until then.. No..
Or at least one or BOTH have a productive AHL season.
Our AHL team could be sick next year between Connolly, Sgrabossa, Hishon, Barrie, Gaunce, Siemens, and Pickard.. - Steve-B
Which they most likely will in a year or 2, which is when I think we trade stastny |
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Hockeygirl101
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Follow me on twitter: @LCoutur, CA Joined: 10.01.2009
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We actually are debating him a little.. I think he has top 6 power forward potential. Others Think he is a 3rd line guy even in the future. - Steve-B
He is still adjusting and finding some line mates to play him with. He looked very good tonight with stastny and Jones. He is starting to pick up his physical play but if he stays parked around the net he will be great.
What did you think about losing Sgarbossa ? - Meeqsb
Why ask this question and then not respond? I am curious as to how much potential Sharks fans think McGinn has.. - Steve-B
Sorry for having a life? Seriously though, I don't as much time to check hockeybuzz as I used to, but I genuinely wanted to know what you guys thought of him. I think he could be a 2nd liner in the future, I don't know about top line guy though. He is very good at a checking role though, and brings some added scoring.
As for Sgarbossa, it felt like a minor version of losing Coyle over the summer...but if Winnik and Galiardi continue playing like they are, I think I can live with it. |
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jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Newfounland, NF Joined: 11.24.2011
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As long as O'reilly plays with Gabe I dont see his point totals going down. Also If duchene has another 50 point season then the Avs need to realize that there is a problem that needs to be adressed, whether getting him new line mates or changing their style ect. Duchene is the Avs and we need him to do well no matter what.
Also we have depth in Hishon and Sgarbossa now. hishon is even more reason stastny is expendable. - Meeqsb
well Hishon is out and has been for a while and i havint heard anything about him coming back soon! and there both very small centers with skill the chance of hishon getting hit again and more concussion problems is high! i think anyway!
i think we keep stastny for a couple more years like you said, after this contract is up they need to get him on a cheeper one tho! maybe 2 year 8mil. |
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Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO Joined: 12.17.2007
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well Hishon is out and has been for a while and i havint heard anything about him coming back soon! and there both very small centers with skill the chance of hishon getting hit again and more concussion problems is high! i think anyway!
i think we keep stastny for a couple more years like you said, after this contract is up they need to get him on a cheeper one tho! maybe 2 year 8mil. - jonathonpeddle
Hishon should be ready for the start of camp, I've heard. |
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jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Newfounland, NF Joined: 11.24.2011
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Hishon should be ready for the start of camp, I've heard. - martok2309
Thats good news to hear!!!! i think he would still need a year to develop in the AHL, this year put him behind but he well be a great addition to the team when comes up!!! |
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NineTeen
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 07.03.2008
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That were to happen just call us Team America (thogh the theme song would be great) - martok2309
I was thinking about that the other day, I thought the Avs had way more Americans.
Current Avs Roster:
Connolly - Canada
Downie - Canada
Duchene - Canada
Hejduk - Czech
Jones - Canada
Kobasew - Canada
Landeskog - Sweden
McClement - Canada
McGinn - Canada
McLeod - Canada
Mueller - USA
O'Reilly - Canada
Olver - Canada
Porter - USA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (He doesn't really count though. #PlugLife)
Stastny - USA
Barrie - Canada
Elliott - Canada
Hejda - Czech
Hunwick - USA
Johnson - USA
O'Brien - Canada
O'Byrne - Canada
Wilson - Canada
Varlamov - Russia
Giguere - Canada
Canada - 16
USA - 5
Czech - 2
Sweden - 1
Russia - 1 |
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Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Ann Arbor, MI Joined: 07.20.2011
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Downie has a good chance to make the lineup tonight, He practiced today with the team. Olver is being moved to Duchene's line. (Per Sacco)
The lines tonight could look like:
Landeskog - O'Reilly - Downie (It's a lock if Downie is cleared)
Olver - Duchene - Mueller (The Coach says so)
McGinn - Stastny - Jones (Same line as last game)
McLeod - Jay - Hejduk (Hejduk did not do anything last night that warranted moving back up. This is hard to see but at the same time. It's good to see. I am sure everyone wants Hejduk to do well but I like that the team and not one guy is more important down the stretch here.) |
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Steve-B
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Ann Arbor, MI Joined: 07.20.2011
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I was thinking about that the other day, I thought the Avs had way more Americans.
Current Avs Roster:
Connolly - Canada
Downie - Canada
Duchene - Canada
Hejduk - Czech
Jones - Canada
Kobasew - Canada
Landeskog - Sweden
McClement - Canada
McGinn - Canada
McLeod - Canada
Mueller - USA
O'Reilly - Canada
Olver - Canada
Porter - USA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (He doesn't really count though. #PlugLife)
Stastny - USA
Barrie - Canada
Elliott - Canada
Hejda - Czech
Hunwick - USA
Johnson - USA
O'Brien - Canada
O'Byrne - Canada
Wilson - Canada
Varlamov - Russia
Giguere - Canada
Canada - 16
USA - 5
Czech - 2
Sweden - 1
Russia - 1 - NineTeen
Really? I didn't think that but they stand out because one is an All-Star and two have the potential to be. |
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