Hope no one here lives in Columbus. They're probably planning a parade after winning tonight.

What's up with Jagr? Groin pull? At the game and didn't see
- funmaster18

Saying LBI, but likely a groin

I think its high time to agree to disagree. This is getting old fast.
- Duran76

Agreed. Arguing over and over doesn't make Voracek not concussed and it doesn't get Kronwall suspended. The hit happened and we cannot change it. Let's see what the league does.

Facts is it was a clean hit end of story.. head down and boom.... for those say it was a shoulder to the chest isnt exactly true either he turned his back... he always does this..not a fan but its what he does and hes good at it.... no supension nor fines... keep your head up... second time Voracek got caught with his head down this season.... end of discussion

I agree with you up until the intent part. The intent was to knock him into the next zip code. The head just got in the way.
- rockychocbill

If you are going to go in to something head first, you cant really be surprised when the head is the first point of contact.

He could have, but then he wouldn't be Kronwall. And I keep going back to the point that if it were reversed, and the Flyer d-man let up, people would be going nuts on whoever it was.
- MBFlyerfan

In the paraphrased words of Ned Braden, "Someone would have complained you dumb son of a female dog, but it's not gonna be me!"

Does anyone have a still image of this Kronwall hit during the actual contact?
- eayost

This is 1 second before contact. The closest I could get it.

Facts is it was a clean hit end of story.. head down and boom.... for those say it was a shoulder to the chest isnt exactly true either he turned his back... he always does this..not a fan but its what he does and hes good at it.... no supension nor fines... keep your head up... second time Voracek got caught with his head down this season.... end of discussion
- Slammed81

Somehow I doubt this

Saying LBI, but likely a groin
- Jsaquella

Looked like it might be the left knee as well. It was a pretty violent leg whip for both legs.

Facts is it was a clean hit end of story.. head down and boom.... for those say it was a shoulder to the chest isnt exactly true either he turned his back... he always does this..not a fan but its what he does and hes good at it.... no supension nor fines... keep your head up... second time Voracek got caught with his head down this season.... end of discussion
- Slammed81

well, I'm glad THAT'S resolved.

Somehow I doubt this
- Duran76

This is 1 second before contact. The closest I could get it.


- rockychocbill

This makes my point perfectly.

you're forgetting which player we're talking about.
- FlyerGuy

Nope. I know his history. This one was clean though.

This makes our point perfectly.
- MBFlyerfan

Fixed.

This is 1 second before contact. The closest I could get it.


- rockychocbill

Looks like his head is up? He's certainly leaning forward because he is skating... his head being down effected his ability to see Kronwall well before the hit, but it doesn't really effect the point of contact. That's what I see anyways.

His head was low enough and forward enough that even a hip check would have contacted Voraceks head first.
- MBFlyerfan

Are you kidding me? You need to look at the replay again. Jake's head is nowhere near that low. Kronwall is shorter than Jake, and standing almost upright when he hits him and his shoulder hit him in the face. Watch it again. You're dead wrong with this.

EDIT - and the pics posted by Rocky and others clearly show this.

Nope. I know his history. This one was clean though.
- rockychocbill

I'm talking about intent. The intent wasn't clean, imo.

But, opinions will vary on this. I'm more concerned with getting the win. Man, I'm hoping Hartnell doesn't try some stupid retaliation hit in the last few minutes to give them a PP.

Yeah, and the first two were just as (frank)ing blatant.
- Jsaquella

Penalties are now 4-1. You can't tell me Rinaldo's penalty was more egregious than any of the picks.

Nope. I know his history. This one was clean though.
- rockychocbill

His history....it reminds me of this. I apologize to anyone that has already read it, but I want people to read it. I think it makes a very good point.

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This past weekend, my brother was playing in a midget hockey game, and the other team had this big 17 year old goon. He must have been 6-2 200. First he laid one kid out in the first period- and it was let go. It was clean, but it there was a stigma with it because the kid he hit was about 8 inches shorter than he was.

In the first half of the 2nd, he laid another booming hit. This time, he got called for boarding, which it was. Again, he hit someone roughly 6 inches shorter than him. Hard.

He gets out of the box, and on that shift he drills another kid in the open ice. Elbow to the head- lucky the kid didn't get seriously hurt. Again, he was about a foot taller than the kid he hit. Truly a headhunting disgrace.

During the next sequence, (I was doing the score sheet) I heard the ref say to our bench, "If that clown throws another hit like that, I'm gonna kick his ass out. He's here to knock people off the puck and play defense, not kill kids."
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That's why this hit is dirty. That's why Kronwall is dirty. He tries to kill people once a week. I hope, and think, this is finally the time he gets punished.

He's not here to kill people.

He's here to play hockey.

I rest my case.

Saying LBI, but likely a groin
- Jsaquella

He did quite a split.

His history....it reminds me of this. I apologize to anyone that has already read it, but I want people to read it. I think it makes a very good point.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This past weekend, my brother was playing in a midget hockey game, and the other team had this big 17 year old goon. He must have been 6-2 200. First he laid one kid out in the first period- and it was let go. It was clean, but it there was a stigma with it because the kid he hit was about 8 inches shorter than he was.

In the first half of the 2nd, he laid another booming hit. This time, he got called for boarding, which it was. Again, he hit someone roughly 6 inches shorter than him. Hard.

He gets out of the box, and on that shift he drills another kid in the open ice. Elbow to the head- lucky the kid didn't get seriously hurt. Again, he was about a foot taller than the kid he hit. Truly a headhunting disgrace.

During the next sequence, (I was doing the score sheet) I heard the ref say to our bench, "If that clown throws another hit like that, I'm gonna kick his ass out. He's here to knock people off the puck and play defense, not kill kids."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That's why this hit is dirty. That's why Kronwall is dirty. He tries to kill people once a week. I hope, and think, this is finally the time he gets punished.

He's not here to kill people.

He's here to play hockey.

I rest my case.
- Giroux_Is_God

I wish you would rest your case.

side note, even clement spoke on how kronwall "baits" players then nails em

Penalties are now 4-1. You can't tell me Rinaldo's penalty was more egregious than any of the picks.
- Flyskippy

just a bit late

Penalties are now 4-1. You can't tell me Rinaldo's penalty was more egregious than any of the picks.
- Flyskippy

Nice work! Penalty coming up.

side note, even clement spoke on how kronwall "baits" players then nails em
- bigmookalookie

Pfft. He hasn't played as long as rockychocbill.