Lavi was talking to one reporter, answering the question about Giroux not taking faceoffs because (the reporter said) "Giroux is not 100%." Lavi responded that Hartsy has been their best faceoff guy out there, so they threw him out there tonight to win faceoffs. TP must've laughed at the answer because that's when Lavi asked the above question.
- Flyskippy

Yes against the Caps after Simmonds hit Chimera, Chimera got up and then slashed Giroux and another Flyer with no call. I think Giroux has a bruised wrist and can't get any leverage on faceoffs. Didn't slow him down on those breakaways tonight.

I won't disagree with this. I've made this claim myself with countless other hits in the past. I've been called a sissy and that these types of plays happen in the game all the time. If you want hitting to be a part of hockey then this hit will be a part of it. Honestly, when I was growing up playing minor hockey, this hit would have been on a instructional video as being a perfect hard clean hit. No word of a lie.
- rockychocbill

No question. If I had made a hit like that when I was playing (and I may in fact have made one or two) I would have been cheered by coaches and fans alike. Would have been one of those situations where Dad said "pick your favorite place to go eat son, great hit".

Heck, in the NHL 2 years ago there isn't even a question about this hit. This is all about the league wanting to make players choose to avoid head contact when they can reasonably be expected to do so while still making a hockey play.

That's not saying hitting in general is bad, or that all hits that involve head contact are suspendable or illegal. It's about that subset of hits where the hitter has time and space to avoid the head contact and still throw a check or make a play. I think, and I know others do not agree, that Kronwall had time to avoid head contact and still make a solid, even crushing hit. But he chose not to do so. Seems to me like exactly what the league is trying to eliminate.

There is no way Voracek doesn't have a concussion.
- KGBflyers10

I thought Voracek's head hitting the ice, was worse than the contact of the hit myself.

Just got home from the game....Suspension worthy?
- joepa90

certainly is

everytime i watch that hit it looks worse to me. just sickening
- flyerscup2011

Agree it was sickening.

That said, it wasn't dirty. Of course it could have been avoided. All hits can be avoided but they are still part of the game.

Jake had his head down coming out of the zone and paid for it. It was a shame it put him down, but it was not illegal.

He's skating around with a uniform on and a stick in his hand.
- PLindbergh31

Well, technically......

he came up HUGE

this is the bryz i've been waiting for and i'm stoked that it's now he's hitting his stride
- Don'tForgetTocchet

honestly, i'm impressed with how he's quickly and quietly turned his game around. i simply didn't believe it would happen this year. the team needs him now more than ever. i'm happy for him.

Just got home from the game....Suspension worthy?
- joepa90

Depends who you ask. Just don't ask skippy.

Yes against the Caps after Simmonds hit Chimera, Chimera got up and then slashed Giroux and another Flyer with no call. I think Giroux has a bruised wrist and can't get any leverage on faceoffs. Didn't slow him down on those breakaways tonight.
- Marc D

Yeah, I knew that - was just 'splainin' the context of Lavi's quote.

I was the one ripping Chimera for his tantrum the last 48 hours.

also, it was a blindside hit

Just got home from the game....Suspension worthy?
- joepa90

yes, but they are going to say Voracek was bending down and give him the blame.
The league talks about ending head shots but they will allow this. Its all just talk.

the mez will get retribution
- flyfan1212

ty nice ava

Well, technically......

- MBFlyerfan

Being as shorthanded as they will be, Briere has to pick up his game now.

certainly is
- flyerscup2011

That was a scary hit. Get rid of the franking instigator rule.

also, it was a blindside hit
- flyerscup2011

Agree it was sickening.

That said, it wasn't dirty. Of course it could have been avoided. All hits can be avoided but they are still part of the game.

Jake had his head down coming out of the zone and paid for it. It was a shame it put him down, but it was not illegal.
- 77rams

so when brendan shanahan talks about hits where the primary point of impact is the head are illegal, he's just blowing smoke? i must be crazy

yes, but they are going to say Voracek was bending down and give him the blame.
The league talks about ending head shots but they will allow this. Its all just talk.
- Marc D

a player was hit in a vulnerable position i thought we were trying to get rid of them

That was a scary hit. Get rid of the franking instigator rule.
- joepa90

if they got rid of it voracek doesn't get hit

Yeah, I knew that - was just 'splainin' the context of Lavi's quote.

I was the one ripping Chimera for his tantrum the last 48 hours.
- Flyskippy

He had two slashes and then tried to break the door.
He was pissed.

Just got home from the game....Suspension worthy?
- joepa90

imo, absolutely.

Yes against the Caps after Simmonds hit Chimera, Chimera got up and then slashed Giroux and another Flyer with no call. I think Giroux has a bruised wrist and can't get any leverage on faceoffs. Didn't slow him down on those breakaways tonight.
- Marc D

love how after chimera slashed coburn(maybe someone else?) and then slashed the poop out of giroux, he went onto his bench having a full-on hissy fit slamming the bench door twice over a clean check from simmonds. he could have been called twice on that shift. of course he wasn't called on anything and now giroux's hand is (frank)ed.

voracek is the next xavier laflamme

Everyone here screaming about how Kronwall should have let up or avoided the hit. Had that been Carle or another Flyers defenseman and he let up or avoided the hit you would be screaming bloody murder about how "soft" he is.
- MBFlyerfan

Kronwall consistently tries to decapitate players, and from what we've been told, there's no place in the league for someone like that.

love how after chimera slashed coburn(maybe someone else?) and then slashed the poop out of giroux, he went onto his bench having a full-on hissy fit slamming the bench door twice over a clean check from simmonds. he could have been called twice on that shift. of course he wasn't called on anything and now giroux's hand is (frank)ed.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

twice for slashing, and once for being a baby. zero calls.

Before the days of Rule 48 that is absolutely a legal hit. Afterwards, in the context of that rule, which has been posted here, I don't know how it can be viewed as "legal". Whether the rule is going to take hitting out of the game or is a good rule is another debate, but it's there, and has already been invoked this season.