sure it's subjective

but no matter what, leaving voracek flailing on the ice with no whistle was BS

and shanahan better be looking at it, with all of his new rules in mind.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I'm sure he has already looked at it. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. I don't think there will be any supplemental discipline, but if there is I won't be disappointed obviously.

How can it not be the primary target when that is what he hit?
- wolfhounds

Really?

If I go to punch someone in the head and they move and I hit the wall behind him, using your logic, my primary target is the wall.

Some of the Flyers too.

Giroux: "It was a good hit".

Breeze: "It was a good hit".
- 77rams

can't wait to hear what pinachio turns this into

I'm sure he has already looked at it. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. I don't think there will be any supplemental discipline, but if there is I won't be disappointed obviously.
- PLindbergh31

Agree.

A player not paying close enough attention to his surroundings, and getting hit directly in the head by the checking player.
- BringBack25

Jake looked up at Kronwall before he touched the puck...there's no debating that. Clement was saying how Kronwall 'baits' players by backing up and then moving in to bury them.

Sounds like intent to injure to me.

did turco clear waivers yet? i hope somebody takes him, just to (frank) with the bruins.
- hammarby31

I think tomorrow at noon it will be decided. I can't imagine anyone claiming him.

sure it's subjective

but no matter what, leaving voracek flailing on the ice with no whistle was BS

and shanahan better be looking at it, with all of his new rules in mind.
- Don'tForgetTocchet

the bottom line is this: was the head targeted? most likely, was the primary point of contact the head? yes, did the player being hit move suddenly prior to or simultaneous to the hit? no, was the hit avoidable? yes, could the player have let up to lessen contact? yes, did the player let up? no.

those are indisputable facts that make that hit suspendable

Really?

If I go to punch someone in the head and they move and I hit the wall behind him, using your logic, my primary target is the wall.

- MBFlyerfan

Really?

If I go to punch someone in the head and they move and I hit the wall behind him, using your logic, my primary target is the wall.

- MBFlyerfan

WTF?

No, your primary target was 'someone', but how do I know what part when you apparently can't connect with any?

Was put in place in 1992. So whats your point?
- joepa90

Thought it was later than that. Doesn't really matter though. Guys like Stevens and Kronwall are gonna do what they do (did) regardless imo. Ulf Samuelsson did most of his deeds before the instigator came into effect.

http://video.nhl.com/vide...mpid=nhl-hp-vidchn-safety

Here's another one. I'd expect 3 games


Edit: Dammit those links aren't right

can't wait to hear what pinachio turns this into

- thenighttrain17

Bad Teammates Throw Vurachak Under the Bus

Agree.
- 77rams

+2

the bottom line is this: was the head targeted? most likely, was the primary point of contact the head? yes, did the player being hit move suddenly prior to or simultaneous to the hit? no, was the hit avoidable? yes, could the player have let up to lessen contact? yes, did the player let up? no.

those are indisputable facts that make that hit suspendable
- flyerscup2011

ty

Bad Teammates Throw Vurachak Under the Bus
- Don'tForgetTocchet

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&intcmpid=nhl-hp-vidchn-safety

Here's another one. I'd expect 3 games


Edit: Dammit those links aren't right
- eayost

keep going, and send all yr links to brendan

i think he got banned from the site
- 2Real

He's got a hell of a career in arson awaiting him.

WTF?

No, your primary target was 'someone', but how do I know what part when you apparently can't connect with any?
- wolfhounds

Huh?

the bottom line is this: was the head targeted? most likely, was the primary point of contact the head? yes, did the player being hit move suddenly prior to or simultaneous to the hit? no, was the hit avoidable? yes, could the player have let up to lessen contact? yes, did the player let up? no.

those are indisputable facts that make that hit suspendable
- flyerscup2011

Did the skater have the puck? Yes. Was the hitter's shoulder down? Yes. Was the hit primarily a hockey hit or intent to injure? Hockey hit.

ty
- Don'tForgetTocchet

on top of that the player was injured and did not return to the game.

Here's another:

He's got a hell of a career in arson awaiting him.
- PLindbergh31

if he said he was going to burn your house down would you take it very serious being a cop?

- eayost

quintessential example hmmm

please seriously forward to shanahan

Huh?



- MBFlyerfan

he's trying to say that if you have your head down your intent it to injure him with a head shot