i guess i just don't want to see hitting removed from the game. if any hit to the head is suspension worthy, i think you will see a drop in all kinds of hits. just because players will be scared to accidentally hit the head. that goes too far IMO
- FlyerMike18

Im talking more like the hit Kronwall had not two players who run into each other and one hits the other in the head.

Maybe Voracek is just not well liked by other people from Kladno?
- Jsaquella

You might have just given a local writer an idea for their next article.

i guess i just don't want to see hitting removed from the game. if any hit to the head is suspension worthy, i think you will see a drop in all kinds of hits. just because players will be scared to accidentally hit the head. that goes too far IMO
- FlyerMike18

or maybe they'll hit more intelligently

or maybe they'll hit more intelligently
- 2Real

Exactly. You have to be smarter when trying to lay a crushing hit on an opposing player.

i guess i just don't want to see hitting removed from the game. if any hit to the head is suspension worthy, i think you will see a drop in all kinds of hits. just because players will be scared to accidentally hit the head. that goes too far IMO
- FlyerMike18

It'll force players to change the way they approach that element of the game, but I don't agree with the sentiment "you may as well take all hitting out," as some have suggested.

Exactly. You have to be smarter when trying to lay a crushing hit on an opposing player.
- stveshdy

imagine if everyone started hitting like rob blake

i guess i just don't want to see hitting removed from the game. if any hit to the head is suspension worthy, i think you will see a drop in all kinds of hits. just because players will be scared to accidentally hit the head. that goes too far IMO
- FlyerMike18

I don't want to see hitting removed from the game either. I don't think anyone does. But I want to see hitting with a purpose. The hitting should be to separate a player from the puck, or to try and force a player into a turnover by pressuring them with an oncoming hit. The hits that shouldn't be in the game, are the ones like the Kronwall hit. Where they see a player has his head down, isn't looking, or is vulnerable so the opportunity is taken to hit a player when he's not capable of protecting himself. Whether that's his own fault or not. Have respect for your fellow players and not hit to punish a player. And there is a flip side to that. Players must also have the respect not to purposely put themselves in a bad spot to try and draw a penalty or avoid a hit.

I don't want to see hitting removed from the game either. I don't think anyone does. But I want to see hitting with a purpose. The hitting should be to separate a player from the puck, or to try and force a player into a turnover by pressuring them with an oncoming hit. The hits that shouldn't be in the game, are the ones like the Kronwall hit. Where they see a player has his head down, isn't looking, or is vulnerable so the opportunity is taken to hit a player when he's not capable of protecting himself. Whether that's his own fault or not. Have respect for your fellow players and not hit to punish a player. And there is a flip side to that. Players must also have the respect not to purposely put themselves in a bad spot to try and draw a penalty or avoid a hit.
- MJL

i was only referring to a black and white "contact with the head = suspension" rule. if you want to remove all "gray area", i personally believe you will necessarily be cutting back on a lot of "ok" hits

just my opinion though. i'm not saying i'm against any revision of the rule, or change in the way it's implemented. i just don't think a bright-line rule can solve it

Im talking more like the hit Kronwall had not two players who run into each other and one hits the other in the head.
- stveshdy

fair enough, but that necessarily implies some gray area, right?

So Voracek does have a concussion then?
- roenick97

Where did you read that?

so chara isn't allowed to hit gerbe or briere?
- FlyerMike18

No.

i was only referring to a black and white "contact with the head = suspension" rule. if you want to remove all "gray area", i personally believe you will necessarily be cutting back on a lot of "ok" hits

just my opinion though. i'm not saying i'm against any revision of the rule, or change in the way it's implemented. i just don't think a bright-line rule can solve it
- FlyerMike18

I'm not in disagreement there. I think making any hit to the head a suspension and a penalty doesn't work either.

So the Mario statue in Pittsburgh features him schooling Rich Pilon and Jeff Norton. The statue Pilon moves faster than the real one did

FWIW Pilon said he thinks that the statue is pretty cool

http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=389694

I don't want to see hitting removed from the game either. I don't think anyone does. But I want to see hitting with a purpose. The hitting should be to separate a player from the puck, or to try and force a player into a turnover by pressuring them with an oncoming hit. The hits that shouldn't be in the game, are the ones like the Kronwall hit. Where they see a player has his head down, isn't looking, or is vulnerable so the opportunity is taken to hit a player when he's not capable of protecting himself. Whether that's his own fault or not. Have respect for your fellow players and not hit to punish a player. And there is a flip side to that. Players must also have the respect not to purposely put themselves in a bad spot to try and draw a penalty or avoid a hit.
- MJL

The Kronwall hit negated a rush, thats why it looked so vicious because Voracek was ramping up speed, there was a lot of momentum in that event from both players. I don't want to see hits like this removed, it taught Voracek a lesson and he is still a young player. Keep your shifts short or expect to make mistakes like this at the end of long ones.

The Kronwall hit negated a rush, thats why it looked so vicious because Voracek was ramping up speed, there was a lot of momentum in that event from both players. I don't want to see hits like this removed, it taught Voracek a lesson and he is still a young player. Keep your shifts short or expect to make mistakes like this at the end of long ones.
- Just5

maybe next time voracek should duck and hit kronwall's knees cause kronwall put himself in a vulnerable position when trying to kill voracek

fair enough, but that necessarily implies some gray area, right?
- FlyerMike18

I think its easy to seperate a hit like Kronwalls versus a basic hit.

I think its easy to seperate a hit like Kronwalls versus a basic hit.
- stveshdy

black and white it violates rule 48

black and white it violates rule 48
- 2Real

Rule 48 is terrible. Leaves many doors open. Hitting a player in the head will continue to be a "gray" area until they make clear cut changes.

Rule 48 is terrible. Leaves many doors open. Hitting a player in the head will continue to be a "gray" area until they make clear cut changes.
- stveshdy

it's only grey if the person enforcing it is clueless or paid off

it's only grey if the person enforcing it is clueless or paid off
- 2Real

Shanahan right?!?!?

The Kronwall hit negated a rush, thats why it looked so vicious because Voracek was ramping up speed, there was a lot of momentum in that event from both players. I don't want to see hits like this removed, it taught Voracek a lesson and he is still a young player. Keep your shifts short or expect to make mistakes like this at the end of long ones.
- Just5

The length of the shift had zero to do with the play. I absolutely want to see hits like that removed from the game.

Shanahan right?!?!?
- stveshdy

yea

The length of the shift had zero to do with the play. I absolutely want to see hits like that removed from the game.
- MJL

The NHL always protects its "star" players so you have to wonder if a suspension would of been handed out if it were Datysuk, Malkin, Stamkos, Sedin (who had been hit)...

The NHL always protects its "star" players so you have to wonder if a suspension would of been handed out if it were Datysuk, Malkin, Stamkos, Sedin etc...
- stveshdy

No suspensions were handed out for either of the hits that started Crosby's concussion issues.

No suspensions were handed out for either of the hits that started Crosby's concussion issues.
- Jsaquella

You are correct. The one hit on Crosby was like a running into each other type hit if I remember correctly. Or did they throw out an elbow why skating by? I could be wrong...