Just5
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The length of the shift had zero to do with the play. I absolutely want to see hits like that removed from the game. - MJL
If your talking purely the mechanics of the hit. I guess the shift had nothing to do with it.....but through Voracek's own words, clearly it had some effect on why he put himself in that position. If it didn't he wouldn't have mentioned it.
"I’ve got to be aware that Kronwall is standing there at the blue line. It was the end of my shift and I look up and he’s standing at the blue line and I’m focusing on the puck and he’s very good at it.
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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You are correct. The one hit on Crosby was like a running into each other type hit if I remember correctly. Or did they throw out an elbow why skating by? I could be wrong... - stveshdy
The initial hit by Steckel(IIRC it was David Steckel) was just a simple collision, the hit from Hedman was a hit from behind. |
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stveshdy
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The initial hit by Steckel(IIRC it was David Steckel) was just a simple collision, the hit from Hedman was a hit from behind. - Jsaquella
I can honestly say I dont remember the Hedman hit. I just wish there was a way to get rid of the "gray" area in Rule 48. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I can honestly say I dont remember the Hedman hit. I just wish there was a way to get rid of the "gray" area in Rule 48. - stveshdy
That's why it's so difficult. I think that the hit on Voracek falls into the mitigating circumstances that give room under rule 48. I'm support clearing the gray, but at the same time, does totally outlawing head contact end up killing hitting altogether?
I think Voracek's comments kind of say it all-guys have to be aware of what is going on around them and who is out there. That said, guys like Kronwall could be more respectful. |
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stveshdy
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That's why it's so difficult. I think that the hit on Voracek falls into the mitigating circumstances that give room under rule 48. I'm support clearing the gray, but at the same time, does totally outlawing head contact end up killing hitting altogether?
I think Voracek's comments kind of say it all-guys have to be aware of what is going on around them and who is out there. That said, guys like Kronwall could be more respectful. - Jsaquella
No doubt. |
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Flyskippy
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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Hey, did we find ano.. ther ...topic ...yet? |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Hey, did we find ano.. ther ...topic ...yet?  - Flyskippy
has kronwall been suspended yet? |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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has kronwall been suspended yet? - 2Real
For what?
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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For what?
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 wishing voracek a swell time |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Hey, did we find ano.. ther ...topic ...yet?  - Flyskippy
Nope. Just give up, until Shelley dresses tomorrow |
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Flyskippy
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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Nope. Just give up, until Shelley dresses tomorrow - Jsaquella
Well, the complaining is awfully low. *epiphany* I LOVE Kronwallgate!!! |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Well, the complaining is awfully low. *epiphany* I LOVE Kronwallgate!!! - Flyskippy
I hate it. I don't like the hit, but under the existing rules, it is legal. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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I hate it. I don't like the hit, but under the existing rules, it is legal. - Jsaquella
Rule 48 states exactly why it's illegal |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Well, the complaining is awfully low. *epiphany* I LOVE Kronwallgate!!! - Flyskippy
Well, the volume of posting overall is also very low. The correlation of rare complaining to rare general posting doesn't speak well to us "meaningful conversationalists" |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If your talking purely the mechanics of the hit. I guess the shift had nothing to do with it.....but through Voracek's own words, clearly it had some effect on why he put himself in that position. If it didn't he wouldn't have mentioned it.
"I’ve got to be aware that Kronwall is standing there at the blue line. It was the end of my shift and I look up and he’s standing at the blue line and I’m focusing on the puck and he’s very good at it.
“I was kind of naïve to think he was going to back up" - Just5
He's not saying it was a factor. All he's saying is that it was later in his shift.
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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He's not saying it was a factor. All he's saying is that it was later in his shift. - MJL
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He's not saying it was a factor. All he's saying is that it was later in his shift. - MJL
He was at the very end of a shift that lasted two minutes and thirty-four seconds. It wasn't the sole reason he put himself in that position - but it certainly contributed. The way the play developed (assuming that Kronwall was going to make the hit regardless) he was doomed from the start. |
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fecondo
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Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA Joined: 03.16.2008
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He was at the very end of a shift that lasted two minutes and thirty-four seconds. It wasn't the sole reason he put himself in that position - but it certainly contributed. The way the play developed (assuming that Kronwall was going to make the hit regardless) he was doomed from the start. - BoomGoesTheCoburn
Wait.......
What hit is everyone talking about? |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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 u guys still going on with this hit on Jake
Any news on the injury front? Timonen, Mez anything? |
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fecondo
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Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA Joined: 03.16.2008
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u guys still going on with this hit on Jake
Any news on the injury front? Timonen, Mez anything? - JoeRussomanno
The hit on Jake? Come on man there was no hit on Jake... let it goooooo
Serious note... i havent heard anything about timonen or mez yet. Hopefully someone else has. |
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wilsonecho91
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Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK Joined: 11.13.2007
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u guys still going on with this hit on Jake
Any news on the injury front? Timonen, Mez anything? - JoeRussomanno
just as you probably know, Timonen and Mesz will not play tomorrow, Jagr won't either. the guy who may or may not have been hit may or may not play. |
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fecondo
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Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA Joined: 03.16.2008
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just as you probably know, Timonen and Mesz will not play tomorrow, Jagr won't either. the guy who may or may not have been hit may or may not play. - wilsonecho91
Thanks for clearing that up |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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just as you probably know, Timonen and Mesz will not play tomorrow, Jagr won't either. the guy who may or may not have been hit may or may not play. - wilsonecho91
Who was that guy that might have got hit?  JK |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Who was that guy that might have got hit? JK - JoeRussomanno
Brit Selby |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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He was at the very end of a shift that lasted two minutes and thirty-four seconds. It wasn't the sole reason he put himself in that position - but it certainly contributed. The way the play developed (assuming that Kronwall was going to make the hit regardless) he was doomed from the start. - BoomGoesTheCoburn
I personally don't see how it was a factor in my opinion.
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