round to the nearest hundredth of a %
- bradleyc4

k brb

I'm not saying they are actively thinking about the BSB's.... But the Flyers operated with that mentality until about 4 years ago..., though not as "dirty" as the Bullies of the 70's, they were always the bigger, tougher team that came in and pounded your home team...

I just think that more penalities get called without the Refs really consciously doing so...
- RooNosHockey

Fair enough.

k brb
- Crimsoninja

playoffs are around the corner.. and he's been playing better and better .. with all of these injuries.. its guna be DANNY TIME very very soon
- MrBigglesworth

I agree with you 100%. Just like we saw Giroux on the cusp of coming out of his funk earlier this year, DB appears to be on the brink of doing the same himself.

I don't know if this has been addressed but i hope one thing that can be ironed out in the new CBA is when you have a dead contract or a player that you are not going to play, there is an easier way to "release" him.

As much as they might not be playing for the Flyers, I would think if the Flyers would be allowed too they would Unconditionally release a few players.
- phi1671

I think players should be able to be released. If released, a team would still have to pay the player his salary, but their contract would no longer count against the cap or count as a contract slot.

Not many teams would be willing to just eat big contracts, but if a team makes a mistake signing a guy and are willing to release the player to clear cap space they should be allowed to do it imo.

I don't know if this has been addressed but i hope one thing that can be ironed out in the new CBA is when you have a dead contract or a player that you are not going to play, there is an easier way to "release" him.

As much as they might not be playing for the Flyers, I would think if the Flyers would be allowed too they would Unconditionally release a few players.
- phi1671

You can buy-out a contract any time you want, but you still have to pay a cap hit. It is a fail safe to keep teams from spending boat loads of money for marginal players over long years, when they plan on releasing them or having them retire in a few years...

Not thanks, i dont want the NHL to resemble the NFL in anyway...

Really? That entire situation was crazy. If I recall I believe Donaghy was from Havertown.
- PLindbergh31

Yup a delco guy.. his buddy and my old neighbor is a lawyer. I remember coming home ( I was in college at the time I believe) and seeing the Black SUV's everywhere. I had no clue what was going on at the time. Good old Fed Probe

I cant imagine "refs" still having the broad st bullies on their minds. That was over 30 years ago. It may seem that way but I dont think refs call penalties based on past history.
- stveshdy

oh yea 30 years ago refs had integrity

quoted the wrong post but you know what i mean

I think players should be able to be released. If released, a team would still have to pay the player his salary, but their contract would no longer count against the cap or count as a contract slot.

Not many teams would be willing to just eat big contracts, but if a team makes a mistake signing a guy and are willing to release the player to clear cap space they should be allowed to do it imo.
- PLindbergh31

I am sure Donald Fehr is in love with this idea, thus making the new CBA process both smooth and easy.

I'm not saying they are actively thinking about the BSB's.... But the Flyers operated with that mentality until about 4 years ago..., though not as "dirty" as the Bullies of the 70's, they were always the bigger, tougher team that came in and pounded your home team...

I just think that more penalities get called without the Refs really consciously doing so...
- RooNosHockey

i loved when gagne used to fire slap shots at refs after bad calls

I think players should be able to be released. If released, a team would still have to pay the player his salary, but their contract would no longer count against the cap or count as a contract slot.

Not many teams would be willing to just eat big contracts, but if a team makes a mistake signing a guy and are willing to release the player to clear cap space they should be allowed to do it imo.
- PLindbergh31

i would love to have the NFL structure where only a certain part of the contract is guaranteed

I think players should be able to be released. If released, a team would still have to pay the player his salary, but their contract would no longer count against the cap or count as a contract slot.

Not many teams would be willing to just eat big contracts, but if a team makes a mistake signing a guy and are willing to release the player to clear cap space they should be allowed to do it imo.
- PLindbergh31

Then what would stop teams like the Flyers, who arent hurting for money, from signing Selannie for 5 years a 5 million a year.... knowing he will only play 1 more year? The money isnt going to hurt the team....

I think players should be able to be released. If released, a team would still have to pay the player his salary, but their contract would no longer count against the cap or count as a contract slot.

Not many teams would be willing to just eat big contracts, but if a team makes a mistake signing a guy and are willing to release the player to clear cap space they should be allowed to do it imo.
- PLindbergh31

Small market clubs would claim that the larger markets would have an even bigger advantage (as compared to today, big market teams do still have advantages) in being able to buy their way out of mistakes. I'm sure the big market teams would like this idea, but it wouldn't go the other way.

I cant imagine "refs" still having the broad st bullies on their minds. That was over 30 years ago. It may seem that way but I dont think refs call penalties based on past history.
- stveshdy

Flyers have been shorthanded the most times (260) in the NHL this season, but also by far have most powerplay opportunities (274) in the league. Detroit is a very distant second in that category with 253 power play chances.

Flyers have been shorthanded the most times (260) in the NHL this season, but also by far have most powerplay opportunities (274) in the league. Detroit is a very distant second in that category with 253 power play chances.
- bmeltzer

Where do you get these stats from Bill?

i would love to have the NFL structure where only a certain part of the contract is guaranteed
- 2Real

No-way. I would hate that... It would almost kill trading... It would make your teams have waaaaayyyy to much turn over.... That is not what Hockey is about...

Small market clubs would claim that the larger markets would have an even bigger advantage (as compared to today, big market teams do still have advantages) in being able to buy their way out of mistakes. I'm sure the big market teams would like this idea, but it wouldn't go the other way.
- eayost

well small market teams should learn how to build a dedicated fan base then

it's like small company vs big company is not the big company's fault they have more resources

I am sure Donald Fehr is in love with this idea, thus making the new CBA process both smooth and easy.


- Flyskippy

Well just applying every day life and logic to the equation. If a person has a contract in any field, the only responsibility to that person is that they are paid. Any business or entity that wants to get rid of a person for whatever reason should be entitled to do so without repercussion.

No-way. I would hate that... It would almost kill trading... It would make your teams have waaaaayyyy to much turn over.... That is not what Hockey is about...
- RooNosHockey

carter and richards were traded regardless of their monster contract

what if both just checked out and did nothing to earn their contracts?

Flyers have been shorthanded the most times (260) in the NHL this season, but also by far have most powerplay opportunities (274) in the league. Detroit is a very distant second in that category with 253 power play chances.
- bmeltzer

So that would give the Flyers a +14 on special teams. I just dont think refs are penalizing Flyers bc of players that played over 30 years ago. Now players that have a history and who are currently in the NHL is another story imo.

Flyers have been shorthanded the most times (260) in the NHL this season, but also by far have most powerplay opportunities (274) in the league. Detroit is a very distant second in that category with 253 power play chances.
- bmeltzer

Kind of goes to my point... to me it's almost like there were a lot of bad call's and make-up calls during the Flyers game... And like the Refs instinctly try to police the FLyer's games from the start...

Then what would stop teams like the Flyers, who arent hurting for money, from signing Selannie for 5 years a 5 million a year.... knowing he will only play 1 more year? The money isnt going to hurt the team....
- RooNosHockey

So the Flyers would just throw 25 million dollars for one season of Teemu Selanne? Ummm.... no they wouldn't. Not by a long shot.

Well just applying every day life and logic to the equation. If a person has a contract in any field, the only responsibility to that person is that they are paid. Any business or entity that wants to get rid of a person for whatever reason should be entitled to do so without repercussion.
- PLindbergh31

Um, you're in the NJ PBA, right? Or were? How would that go over if you were let go "for any reason" just because the guy in charge was a jerk?

Flyers have been shorthanded the most times (260) in the NHL this season, but also by far have most powerplay opportunities (274) in the league. Detroit is a very distant second in that category with 253 power play chances.
- bmeltzer

And only one team has Zac Rinaldo. The NHL leader in penalties drawn and penalties taken per 60 mins.

So that would give the Flyers a +14 on special teams. I just dont think refs are penalizing Flyers bc of players that played over 30 years ago. Now players that have a history and who are currently in the NHL is another story imo.
- stveshdy

I know this sounds wrong, but people do things by instinct without realizing it, or knowing why they do it, just based on preconception and past history...

Like a white woman grabbing her purse tighter when a black man walks past... Its not right, and she might not be racist, and she really has no-idea why she did it.... But it happens...