I'm loving all the banter from the VAN trolls. You guys in BC are hilarious.
Point #1: Do not pursue a career in law. It's glaringly obvious you have not a clue about contracts.
Point #2: Don't be a hypocrite! IF the Canuckleheads held Radulov's contract as the Preds currently do, you would be screaming from the treetops that you have every right to his services and screw anyone for thinking otherwise.
Point #3: Enjoy your early exit after round 1. My questions is: Will you still burn down the city?

It is extremely explicit. If you aren't on Loan, you fall in to the scenario of having to go through waivers. So, do this check:

Does Suspended = Loan?
Does Absent With Out Leave = Loan?

They don't look to be true statements to me. Unless either of these previous two statements are true, then you're not on Loan and you need to go through waivers. How can that possibly be unclear?
- thebige

Apparently it's not the case, nor that clear. Which is why the general consensus is no waivers necessary. And why McKenzie is tweeting that the NHLPA has no objections to him going straight to Nashville. If the rule is as clear as you say then there would be no other choice but waivers. So unless the league is just going to ignore that rule, you're misinterpreting it.

on a side note re: a player who is here.. Anyone think Av's had little K's number circled last night. Christ, they beat the tar out of him at every opportunity. Still buried that wrist shot.

Belarus must run some sort of state sponsored Wrist Shot program.. Just sick. The Brothers K both unleash some wicked wristers.
- coaster28

SK got in a nice remember me shot against Downie but ran and hid like a little girl! Fish had to come in and finish off the scrum.

It is extremely explicit. If you aren't on Loan, you fall in to the scenario of having to go through waivers. So, do this check:

Does Suspended = Loan?
Does Absent With Out Leave = Loan?

They don't look to be true statements to me. Unless either of these previous two statements are true, then you're not on Loan and you need to go through waivers. How can that possibly be unclear?
- thebige

http://aol.sportingnews.c...ors-shea-weber-ryan-suter

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...nashville-rumors-heat-up/

PLEASE READ EITHER OF THESE. THEY BOTH SAY HE HAS TO FINISH HIS CONTRACT WITH THE NASHVILLE PREDATORS.

He found a loophole in the system at the time, it was since been fixed, so he is an exception. I'm don't know how to make it more clear. You are the only one who does not get it.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-03-08/alexander-radulov-khl-contract-nashville-predators-shea-weber-ryan-suter

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...nashville-rumors-heat-up/

PLEASE READ EITHER OF THESE. THEY BOTH SAY HE HAS TO FINISH HIS CONTRACT WITH THE NASHVILLE PREDATORS.

He found a loophole in the system at the time, it was since been fixed, so he is an exception. I'm don't know how to make it more clear. You are the only one who does not get it.
- benderboots

Quit trying to explain it. He'll figure it out when he sees #47 in gold.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2012-03-08/alexander-radulov-khl-contract-nashville-predators-shea-weber-ryan-suter

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...nashville-rumors-heat-up/

PLEASE READ EITHER OF THESE. THEY BOTH SAY HE HAS TO FINISH HIS CONTRACT WITH THE NASHVILLE PREDATORS.

He found a loophole in the system at the time, it was since been fixed, so he is an exception. I'm don't know how to make it more clear. You are the only one who does not get it.
- benderboots

I'm not talking about him finishing his contract. I'm talking about whether the NHL CBA allows a player to not start the season in North America, but then come back and play for the playoffs. I never said a single thing about Radulov's contract. Learn how to read and go back to screaming to yourself.

SK got in a nice remember me shot against Downie but ran and hid like a little girl! Fish had to come in and finish off the scrum.
- slash&smash

Downie is a tough customer. SK74 not so much. I'd like to seen Gill throw his weight around more in that scrum, he got locked up with Landeskog...

I'm not talking about him finishing his contract. I'm talking about whether the NHL CBA allows a player to not start the season in North America, but then come back and play for the playoffs. I never said a single thing about Radulov's contract. Learn how to read and go back to screaming to yourself.
- thebige

It's an interesting point whats to stop lets say the flyers from signing Jagr for another year with the understanding that Jagr would play in europe and return for the playoffs,
However the new agreement between Russia and the NHL forbids players to have a KHL and NHL contract unless they clear waivers and go on loan doesn't it? Radulov is a bit of a unique case the only similar thing i can think of was Peter Forsberg retuning only for the playoffs while under contract with Colorado.

In this instance Nashville deserves a break, let the guy play it will make the west a hellava lot more interesting.

This whole Radulov bs is pissing me off. Alex does not deserve to be on this team this year. This short changes every pred that has busted their ass and has been emotionally involved the whole year. I feel like this will split the team going into the playoffs. This team has the makings of something special and would hate for it to be ruined. If he wants to come back then come back after the WC's and get ready for next year like everybody else who has bought in! I still hate Radulov for what he did to his team but will gain more respect if he comes back does it the right way. He has acted like a prima donna all year and is acting like one now if he thinks he can waltz right in like nothing has happened.

SK got in a nice remember me shot against Downie but ran and hid like a little girl! Fish had to come in and finish off the scrum.
- slash&smash

I don't know of any history but Colorado clearly had a target on SK's back from the drop of the puck. Several mid ice hits, a clear gloved punch to the jaw that wasn't in a scrum, he was skating in to the offensive zone and just got blatantly punched. comical really as he was then drilled open ice on the same shift..

I didn't see him running away from that 2nd period scrum, I did enjoy watching Fisher step up though.

I'm sure the book on him is rough him up and he's a non factor. Didn't quite pan out for Av's last night.

Very entertaining game all in all.

I'm not talking about him finishing his contract. I'm talking about whether the NHL CBA allows a player to not start the season in North America, but then come back and play for the playoffs. I never said a single thing about Radulov's contract. Learn how to read and go back to screaming to yourself.
- thebige

His contract is the whole controversy.

the 25-year-old forward would have to deal with should he attempt a comeback in the next few weeks, is unknown. TSN.ca's Bob McKenzie says that based on his understanding, Radulov would be eligible to play for Nashville in the regular season and playoffs, pending approval by the NHLPA, because of his existing contract.



ever heard of @DarrenDreger??

Radulov would not have to clear waivers as the NHL and NHLPA would agree to alter the application of this process. Sounds sketchy...I know.

I don't know of any history but Colorado clearly had a target on SK's back from the drop of the puck. Several mid ice hits, a clear gloved punch to the jaw that wasn't in a scrum, he was skating in to the offensive zone and just got blatantly punched. comical really as he was then drilled open ice on the same shift..

I didn't see him running away from that 2nd period scrum, I did enjoy watching Fisher step up though.

I'm sure the book on him is rough him up and he's a non factor. Didn't quite pan out for Av's last night.

Very entertaining game all in all.
- coaster28

Yes it was a great game...talked to a guy at lunch that went and it was his first preds home game he had ever been too (been to a lot of other places). All he could talk about was how exciting the game was, especially the second period. Avs goaltender deserved a star for making it through that period with only the one goal.

I'm not talking about him finishing his contract. I'm talking about whether the NHL CBA allows a player to not start the season in North America, but then come back and play for the playoffs. I never said a single thing about Radulov's contract. Learn how to read and go back to screaming to yourself.
- thebige

No. Instead you keep citing a rule that may or may not pertain to this incredibly unique situation. No player has ever left with term left on his contract then tried to comeback during the season. The rule you cite I'd like to see what section it's in. Because I'm assuming it is in area discussing eligibility of players signed midseason. Not in an area where the eligibility of players already under contract and/or under suspension is the topic. And if I'm wrong I'd love a link to an official site where I can find this rule

This whole Radulov bs is pissing me off. Alex does not deserve to be on this team this year. This short changes every pred that has busted their ass and has been emotionally involved the whole year. I feel like this will split the team going into the playoffs. This team has the makings of something special and would hate for it to be ruined. If he wants to come back then come back after the WC's and get ready for next year like everybody else who has bought in! I still hate Radulov for what he did to his team but will gain more respect if he comes back does it the right way. He has acted like a prima donna all year and is acting like one now if he thinks he can waltz right in like nothing has happened.
- slash&smash

I appreciate that attitude but IMO, if he can deliver a Cup this yr I don't give a poop what has gone on. My guess would be that would be the overiding opinion of the locker room as well.

I think there is a lot that has been ignored or under reported about how shoddily he was treated by some of the veteran Preds when he bolted. I don't care how immature he was, calling a 20 yr old "captain clueless" ( Mason of all people..) to his face and questioning his "antics" while also expecting him to be the offensive Godsend of the franchise probably made it pretty easy for him to say "screw you I'm out of here.."

A home cooked meal and several million dollars would look pretty good..

His contract is the whole controversy.

the 25-year-old forward would have to deal with should he attempt a comeback in the next few weeks, is unknown. TSN.ca's Bob McKenzie says that based on his understanding, Radulov would be eligible to play for Nashville in the regular season and playoffs, pending approval by the NHLPA, because of his existing contract.



ever heard of @DarrenDreger??

Radulov would not have to clear waivers as the NHL and NHLPA would agree to alter the application of this process. Sounds sketchy...I know.
- benderboots

Alright, now you're switching the topic to his eligibility to come back and play in the NHL this season without clearing waivers. We already covered this, the CBA states very clearly that if a player does not start the season in North America, he must clear waivers if he then wants to come play in North America.

Bob McKenzie, while very professional and connected is dead wrong. Dreger, is just an idiot.

No. Instead you keep citing a rule that may or may not pertain to this incredibly unique situation. No player has ever left with term left on his contract then tried to comeback during the season. The rule you cite I'd like to see what section it's in. Because I'm assuming it is in area discussing eligibility of players signed midseason. Not in an area where the eligibility of players already under contract and/or under suspension is the topic. And if I'm wrong I'd love a link to an official site where I can find this rule
- schiefer466

The section text was already posted in the comments for this blog. Go read the CBA (which is a publicly available document), it's section 13.23, which contains one very simple paragraph:

"In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim"

Possibly the reason you haven't seen anyone leave with a valid NHL contract and then try to come back is that there's a rule that prevents someone from doing it?!

Alright, now you're switching the topic to his eligibility to come back and play in the NHL this season without clearing waivers. We already covered this, the CBA states very clearly that if a player does not start the season in North America, he must clear waivers if he then wants to come play in North America.

Bob McKenzie, while very professional and connected is dead wrong. Dreger, is just an idiot.
- thebige

Where in the CBA does it say that? What section exactly? The area discussing the eligibility of players signed already, or unsigned? Eligibility of players varies a ton depending on such things. That rule you cite may or may not apply to this unique situation. And also, can you reference a previous example of a player leaving with term left on his contract, then returning during a season and having to pass waivers?

The section text was already posted in the comments for this blog. Go read the CBA (which is a publicly available document), it's section 13.23, which contains one very simple paragraph:

"In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim"

Possibly the reason you haven't seen anyone leave with a valid NHL contract and then try to come back is that there's a rule that prevents someone from doing it?!
- thebige

You didnt answer the question. What part of the CBA is it in? the number of the clause isn't the question. The topic that the rule clarifies is the question.

It is ridiculous. The whole intent of the waiver requirement was to stop teams from importing Euro based talent only for the playoffs.

And what's happening here?
- thebige

He has a contract...

It is ridiculous. The whole intent of the waiver requirement was to stop teams from importing Euro based talent only for the playoffs.

And what's happening here?
- thebige

...and I can't find him on capgeek anywhere so they haven't been paying his salary toward the cap...(scratching his head)? How is this "the right thing" to do, by the NHLPA?

You didnt answer the question. What part of the CBA is it in? the number of the clause isn't the question. The topic that the rule clarifies is the question.
- schiefer466

I did answer the question. It's in section 13.23.

Addition: If you want to read the topology of the CBA, download it from the nhlpa site and read it for yourself. I'm not your personal clerk.

He has a contract...
- PoileRulezzzYo

...which they haven't been paying...and does it even count as one of the Preds "50" contracts?

He has a contract...
- PoileRulezzzYo

Why is this sooooo complicated for y'all? Whether someone can come back and play in North America after having started the season playing in Europe has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he has a contract.

For the last time, I never said he didn't have a contract.

The section text was already posted in the comments for this blog. Go read the CBA (which is a publicly available document), it's section 13.23, which contains one very simple paragraph:

"In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim"

Possibly the reason you haven't seen anyone leave with a valid NHL contract and then try to come back is that there's a rule that prevents someone from doing it?!
- thebige

The section you cite is "WAIVERS AND LOANS OF PLAYERS TO MINOR LEAGUE CLUBS" Not sure this applies. He is a player under suspension, and under contract. It really is a gray area. Whether or not 13.23 applies to guys who are signed midseason, or any player who plays overseas during a season isn't specified.

...which they haven't been paying...and does it even count as one of the Preds "50" contracts?
- OilCountryEast

He was suspended when he welched on his contract as stipulated by the league, the NHLPA, the IIHF, the Preds, the Knights of Columbus, the Rosicrucians and the Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn.