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TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:01 PM ET
You people are oblivious to what happened, take accountability. I dont understand why you people think this is a clean hockey check. That was Sedin's first hit of the year so in what way is their evidence that he was "finishing" a check?
- nickmo2699



take accountability for what exactly? Sedin will get nothing more than a fine, if that. For me, the hit was a fraction late. The hit was a bit high on Dk's chest, and a rode up to make contact with his head, but IMO, the intent TO HEADHUNT, wasnt there. Keith's hit on Danny, his intent was obvious; to deliver a blow to Daniel's head, ergo to injure him.
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:03 PM ET
2 years huh? Yea your right man great work. actually am 23 years old and have been a hawks fan my entire life. Hawks 4 Canucks 0. Your team is the Miami Heat of hockey. Best in the regular season cant bring home the bacon come playoff time. Hope your car was burned during the pout fest after the SCF loss last year.
- nickmo2699


Easy big guy, not like there wasnt a 49 year gap between Hawk Cup wins. Shall we go through the years the Hawks choked??? '71, '91, '92.....cant forget that 20 year gap when hockey in Chicago was irrelevant and an afterthought
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Mar 22 @ 5:03 PM ET
take accountability for what exactly? Sedin will get nothing more than a fine, if that. For me, the hit was a fraction late. The hit was a bit high on Dk's chest, and a rode up to make contact with his head, but IMO, the intent TO HEADHUNT, wasnt there. Keith's hit on Danny, his intent was obvious; to deliver a blow to Daniel's head, ergo to injure him.
- TLinden16


Keith's intentions were clear and I cant agree with you more. All im saying is that he lunges for Keith's Jaw. If I'm Keith I grab him then and there and rough him up and not handle it like he did.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Mar 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
Easy big guy, not like there wasnt a 49 year gap between Hawk Cup wins. Shall we go through the years the Hawks choked??? '71, '91, '92.....cant forget that 20 year gap when hockey in Chicago was irrelevant and an afterthought
- TLinden16


And what exactly would you call the last two-three years for Vancouver? They were the best team in the NHL last year and there is no reason they should have lost to Boston.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
take accountability for what exactly? Sedin will get nothing more than a fine, if that. For me, the hit was a fraction late. The hit was a bit high on Dk's chest, and a rode up to make contact with his head, but IMO, the intent TO HEADHUNT, wasnt there. Keith's hit on Danny, his intent was obvious; to deliver a blow to Daniel's head, ergo to injure him.
- TLinden16



Chest, huh? Try again.

http://youtu.be/22wQYhn1bhA
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Mar 22 @ 5:07 PM ET
You people are all dumb. Open your eyes all the way. His shoulder elevates and makes contact with the jaw. Im going to lose my mind reading these Vancouver fans nonsense. Guess what? You havent won a cup so all your opinions dont mean sh*t. Take accountability. Hawks fans dont argue that Keith deserves a suspension but admit that your alien looking player threw is shoulder to the jaw of Duncan Keith. I dont understand how you blind Vancouver fans can type being as blind as you are.
- nickmo2699

Then don't read it - go back to the Hawks blog. It's easy.
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:09 PM ET
And what exactly would you call the last two-three years for Vancouver? They were the best team in the NHL last year and there is no reason they should have lost to Boston.
- nickmo2699



No reason? taking a little bit of credit away from boston arent we? Lets re hash this thing AGAIN:

Kesler hurt...no 2nd line = Chara and Seidenberg (awesome shutdown pair) are able to shut down our #1 line

Luongo was a sieve in beantown

Thomas was lights out, and out of his skull awesome

.....adn it went 7 games, hardly a choke, Larry
Kieran
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Milton, ON
Joined: 12.03.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:11 PM ET
When you say "repeat offender", it means that hes been suspended before.

Being an agitator is not repeat offending.

Perhaps a dictionary in your stocking this year?

- Mattjd123


Actually.. no, no it doesn't. He's a repeat offender because he has been fined for spearing and sucker punches from the bench... and has also been called a few times before the NHL disciplinary committee.

so yea, he's a repeat offender.

CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:12 PM ET
I'm sure this has been posted here.

http://youtu.be/22wQYhn1bhA

And you're going to tell me how much more dirty Keith's hit was then this? Nah- Sedin doesn't shoulder/elbow Keith's head into the glass. Totally clean hit with ZERO intent.

BTW: Checks against the boards are usually with your body.. not a flying/shoulder-elbow to the head.
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:12 PM ET
Keith's intentions were clear and I cant agree with you more. All im saying is that he lunges for Keith's Jaw. If I'm Keith I grab him then and there and rough him up and not handle it like he did.
- nickmo2699



you know what, I personally would be less pissed if Keith grabbed Danny and started feeding him (with danny in full turtle) rather than what he did. At least he couldve claimed it was in the heat of the moment. Instead he used a predatory and premeditated tactic to remove Danny from the game. If the league is serious about removing headshots, give Keith 5 games. I know he's not a repeat offender, but its a good lesson, and like you said, he will get some much needed rest for the playoffs!
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:14 PM ET
you know what, I personally would be less pissed if Keith grabbed Danny and started feeding him (with danny in full turtle) rather than what he did. At least he couldve claimed it was in the heat of the moment. Instead he used a predatory and premeditated tactic to remove Danny from the game. If the league is serious about removing headshots, give Keith 5 games. I know he's not a repeat offender, but its a good lesson, and like you said, he will get some much needed rest for the playoffs!
- TLinden16


What's the difference between Keith retaliating and doing the same thing that happened to him minutes prior? Same exact hit, same exact spot on the body.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 22 @ 5:18 PM ET
What's the difference between Keith retaliating and doing the same thing that happened to him minutes prior? Same exact hit, same exact spot on the body.
- CaptainBlackhawk



Go Troll your own blog.... if you can't understand that the hits are completely different then you obviously know nothing about the subject of hockey.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
Go Troll your own blog.... if you can't understand that the hits are completely different then you obviously know nothing about the subject of hockey.
- SMP8719


And if you can't comprehend that Sedins shoulder contacted Keiths head then watch the video again with out the Teal and Blue glasses on.

Both checks targetted the head. Keiths was worse because the puck wasn't there and it was a preditory shot, but Sedins is far from being a clean check.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
Go Troll your own blog.... if you can't understand that the hits are completely different then you obviously know nothing about the subject of hockey.
- SMP8719


Oh I know the difference.

I guess my homer glasses aren't so firmly squared on my face when you realize there was INTENT on both hits. That's something some of you obviously can't grasp. That's not trolling that's attempting to bring a sense of realism to the situation.
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
What's the difference between Keith retaliating and doing the same thing that happened to him minutes prior? Same exact hit, same exact spot on the body.
- CaptainBlackhawk



Hahah, that comment right there sums up your incredible lack of a) objectivity or b) hockey knowledge. im thinking you are a combination of both a and b. Beat it Larry
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Mar 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
And if you can't comprehend that Sedins shoulder contacted Keiths head then watch the video again with out the Teal and Blue glasses on.

Both checks targetted the head. Keiths was worse because the puck wasn't there and it was a preditory shot, but Sedins is far from being a clean check.

- Ben37




Read my posts.... I have never said Sedins hit was clean. But it isn't suspendable. Otherwise there would be multiple suspensions a day.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:27 PM ET
Hahah, that comment right there sums up your incredible lack of a) objectivity or b) hockey knowledge. im thinking you are a combination of both a and b. Beat it Larry
- TLinden16


Realizing that both players had intent to hurt the other? And Keith's was a retaliation to someone head hunting against the board?

That's the only difference. Sedin was attempting to hit Keith in the head, and Keith was retaliating along the same lines.

Look at the clip I provided - the ex-NHLer rips Sedin for the hit as well.

Wake up
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Mar 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
Realizing that both players had intent to hurt the other? And Keith's was a retaliation to someone head hunting against the board?

Look at the clip I provided - the ex-NHLer rips Sedin for the hit as well.

Wake up

- CaptainBlackhawk


Dude, you're wrong. Sedin isn't trying to injury Keith. That's a standard check on a guy who just had the puck. Comparing it to a blantant elbow is ridiculous.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Mar 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
And if you can't comprehend that Sedins shoulder contacted Keiths head then watch the video again with out the Teal and Blue glasses on.

Both checks targetted the head. Keiths was worse because the puck wasn't there and it was a preditory shot, but Sedins is far from being a clean check.

- Ben37


Shoulder checking into the body where the head is contacted but not targeted and throwing an elbow into the face in a blatant attempt to injure are so different, it isn't even comparable. It just isn't even close.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:32 PM ET
Dude, you're wrong. Sedin isn't trying to injury Keith. That's a standard check on a guy who just had the puck. Comparing it to a blantant elbow is ridiculous.
- micah555


Please look at the clip again.

It's not a standard check to come in with your shoulder/elbow to his HEAD against the board. As much as it is OK for some fans to rationalize it that way. That's not standard in any hockey league I've ever watched/played in. That's why Keith retaliated against Sedin.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 22 @ 5:33 PM ET
Shoulder checking into the body where the head is contacted but not targeted and throwing an elbow into the face in a blatant attempt to injure are so different, it isn't even comparable. It just isn't even close.
- micah555


He was shoulder/elbow checking to his HEAD. His HEAD! That's where you're wrong.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 22 @ 5:34 PM ET
And if you can't comprehend that Sedins shoulder contacted Keiths head then watch the video again with out the Teal and Blue glasses on.

Both checks targetted the head. Keiths was worse because the puck wasn't there and it was a preditory shot, but Sedins is far from being a clean check.

- Ben37


Almost all the contact was to the body with maybe 10% high. How can you say the head was the primary target? Clearly Kieth's contact was 100% to the face. That is the head being targetted.

It would help if you would research a little. The misinformed all seem to think that all contact to the head is illegal under any circumstance and any contact to someone's head is undeniably intentional.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Mar 22 @ 5:36 PM ET
He was shoulder/elbow checking to his HEAD. His HEAD! That's where you're wrong.
- CaptainBlackhawk


His elbow was low.

His shoulder was partially high.

Stop watching how Kieths head moves on contact and look where all the body is.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Mar 22 @ 5:39 PM ET
Please look at the clip again.

It's not a standard check to come in with your shoulder/elbow to his HEAD against the board. As much as it is OK for some fans to rationalize it that way. That's not standard in any hockey league I've ever watched/played in. That's why Keith retaliated against Sedin.

- CaptainBlackhawk


I've watched the clip. The frame-by-frame is a lot more vicious looking than the actual hit. Sedin is not a big guy and he's not a know hitter. There was zero elbow to the head in that hit; the elbow is tucked like it's meant to be. It's standard shoulder-to-body contact with incidental contact to the head. The head does not get driven into the boards with any body part of Sedin's touching it. Sedin is in the centre of the Keith's chest when Keith contacts the boards.

It's not ever okay for Keith to do what he did. These plays are not interchangable.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Mar 22 @ 5:40 PM ET
He was shoulder/elbow checking to his HEAD. His HEAD! That's where you're wrong.
- CaptainBlackhawk


His elbow is tucked. It never gets close to Keith's head.
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