Canucks d pairings for tonight:
3-23
8-2
41-5

No salo tonight. Schneider gets the start.
Also kickassian on the top line with king henrik and Bambi Raymond. ITS KICKASSIAN TIME!!!
- NFLDcanuck

I can't wait to see Bieksa's turnovers tonight.

For you Sedin's hit was a fraction late. and "a bit high" and "rode up to make contact with his head". For me it was simply late, high, and made the head the initial point of contact. the intent to "headhunt" probably wasnt there, but it didnt look good. normally a guy with no rep gets a game or two, right? at the very least a fine? Both those things signify some wrongdoing on sedin's part, right?

Dk, under those same guidelines, will most likely be suspdnd, too. I have no problem with this, it seems just: fine/1-2 gm susp for sedin and 2-5 games for Keith.

Should Daniel Sedin have answered for his arguably cheap hit to the much smaller Keith by responding to a challenge from a similarly sized Hawk_Bickel? Bollig? Probably (Certainly, by canuck players' standards). But we all know that wouldn't have happened. He just sits back and says "hockey hit", "i didnt mean to hit his head", etc.. Plus, Keith took him out of the game anyway.

And Keith. He too, should have dropped his gloves with the hairpuller, or bieska, or someone else his size for his forearm shiver to Sedin's head. But we all know that wouldn't have happened either. He just sits back and says "he elbowed me first", "i didnt mean to hurt anyone," etc...

so the league says to Daniel 'hey, that hit is bush league so you get $x fine and 1 game' and to Keith 'that hit is waay bush league so you get 3-5 games.'

isnt it that simple?

So the league
- miked23

yeah right so I guess Duncan Kieth should have stood up to Kassian or Wiese then hey..since you are comparing a first line scorer to 3rd/4th line grinders. What a wussy for not standing up to a grinder when you are a superstar.

Could you be confusing "principal point of contact" with "targeting". The principal point of contact is the part of the body the checker hits FIRST. This can happen regardless of targeting or intent. I believe the league will come down on you if your hit's principle point of contact is the head-particularly if the hit looks questionable to begin with. If you actually TARGET the head, well...they REALLY throw the book at you.

regardless, if you believe that SOMEONE in the league could see that Sedin made a questionable hit which had the head as its principal point of contact, then you should actually EXPECT supplementary discipline as opposed to being shocked or astonished any comes his way.
- miked23

I don't see that. Your reaching if you think the established criteria is met by this hit. Further mitigating it is the lack of force of the hit. We shall see what the league decides, but I would wager Sedin will get nothing.

If you are so convinced it is possible, find me one example of the league suspending a player for a similar incident.

I'd say this answers any question right here:



Beyond that, this is a 2 minute penalty, not a suspension criteria. Whether you agree with it or not, suspensions don't get handed out for hits that may or may not have gotten up high. They are only handed out for blatant attempts to injure or careless hits that do cause injury. This is neither. It's a 2- minute minor or nothing. It's not the viscious, brain rattling attack that Hawks fans are trying to suggest it is.

This reminds me of when Tootoo smashed Robidais in the face and Nashville fans were going on about how Modano had used his stick as a weapon when the brought it around after being hit. It's so negligible, it's just weak to try to wean some sympathy out of it.
- micah555

i calls it as I sees it... He drove into the check as you should do when finishing said check. The issue is it was his head that was the contact point. putting the sole blame on whether he put himself in that position is the whole issue with this rule... . If contact was coincidental, i'd agree but it wasn't. I don't think Sedin is a dirty player at all but this hit puts him on the radar, intentional or not. I don't think its suspendable, that I'll agree wth you on but he should get a call from Shanny (for what thats worth)

You can't tell that from the angle that TSN showed. It looks like contact is all quite simultaneous with the arm getting into the body and the head meeting the shoulder.

The notion that it is intent to injure or any kind of malicious hit is what makes it so silly. Hitting is legal in hockey. Guys get hit every game. Whether is hurt or not is irrelevant. Keith was a puck carrier until right before the hit and he is fair game for body contact. Sedin wasn't head hunting, he was making a hockey hit. The fact that nobody noticed it until TSN found it is pretty telling.
- micah555

Doesn't have to be malicious to be a bad hit. I don't think Randy Jones on Bergeron was malicious but it was still a bad hit. He made contact with shoulder to chin which is now an illegal hit unless the shoulder makes contact elsewhere and rises up. I don't think it warrants a huge suspension or anything, but it's certainly worthy of a hand slap and finger wag.

haha, right. Keith shut him up pretty good last night "yeah, you were a hell of an acquisition" burn.
- vancity sabre

Actually nobody shut up kickassian last night. I don't know what game you were watching but kickassian was running around throwing big hits and talking smack all night. And Duncan "NoNuts" Keith wouldn't be able to shut up a mute mime sorry to tell ya

Should Daniel Sedin have answered for his arguably cheap hit to the much smaller Keith by responding to a challenge from a similarly sized Hawk_Bickel? Bollig? Probably (Certainly, by canuck players' standards). But we all know that wouldn't have happened. He just sits back and says "hockey hit", "i didnt mean to hit his head", etc.. Plus, Keith took him out of the game anyway.

- miked23

You do know the Sedins are 6'1 and 188lbs right? They are not big guys.

Actually nobody shut up kickassian last night. I don't know what game you were watching but kickassian was running around throwing big hits and talking smack all night. And Duncan "NoNuts" Keith wouldn't be able to shut up a mute mime sorry to tell ya
- NFLDcanuck

That's what Ray Ferraro said and he is between the benches. And all I saw of Kassian was him trying to chase down Keith (unsuccessfully) and Keith whirled around the net. Don't have to apologize to me, I hate Keith for what he did too.

Also, Hodgson is lookin better and better. Boom boyo.

Micah - could you seriously lock this thread down for Canuck fans only. I appreciate back and forth banter but this has been going on all day and it’s nauseating. I don’t care who’s right, wrong, an idiot, a saint, whatever. End it already.

I expect to see goals (plural) from the Burrows/Kesler/Booth line tonight. Burrows is the most versatile player we've got. Instant chemistry with anyone he steps on the ice with... Especially Kesler. Also looking forward to watching Kassian in a larger role.

That would be awesome Keith and Daniel should square of at center ice next game!
- wolverine19

I think when Toews comes back kassian gives him an elbow and tells him next time tell Keith to man up. Enjoy the press box.

Micah - could you seriously lock this thread down for Canuck fans only. I appreciate back and forth banter but this has been going on all day and it’s nauseating. I don’t care who’s right, wrong, an idiot, a saint, whatever. End it already.
- AlexF

I'm afraid not. But I'll stop talking about it. That might help.

Micah - could you seriously lock this thread down for Canuck fans only. I appreciate back and forth banter but this has been going on all day and it’s nauseating. I don’t care who’s right, wrong, an idiot, a saint, whatever. End it already.
- AlexF

grow a sac.

That's what Ray Ferraro said and he is between the benches. And all I saw of Kassian was him trying to chase down Keith (unsuccessfully) and Keith whirled around the net. Don't have to apologize to me, I hate Keith for what he did too.

Also, Hodgson is lookin better and better. Boom boyo.
- vancity sabre

I don't know why u are bringing up cohoe but he has 4 goals last 30 games. Not to impressive but hey he's Cody franchise and he's got all u buffalow fans biten so good for him Hahaha

I expect to see goals (plural) from the Burrows/Kesler/Booth line tonight. Burrows is the most versatile player we've got. Instant chemistry with anyone he steps on the ice with... Especially Kesler. Also looking forward to watching Kassian in a larger role.
- DrChristianTroy

Agreed. Apart from the first few games (which is hard to gauge) Kassian hasn't been given much of chance with skilled linemates. Will be interesting to see.

Booth-Kesler-Burrows on paper looks dynamite. Still no playmakers there but who cares, they can all get it to the net.

EDIT: We need to start scoring.

You mean Bergeron gave him a facewash.. which is a pretty standard on-going in the league.. I believe Burrows gave a couple of those during last night's game.. funny how he didn't get bit though. I guess that's because grown men usually don't bite each other.

So, I guess with your second point you've just justified Keith's hit on Sedin then. Keith retaliated.. Just like Burrows.. did.. except he didn't pull Sedin's hair.
- Kieran

No, Bergeron was poking Burrows's mouth–it was more than a facewash. And how can you draw similarities between tugging a guys hair and viciously throwing an elbow to the face? The severity of the acts are on completely different levels. But you're going to find a way to put the Canucks in the wrong any chance you get.

i calls it as I sees it... He drove into the check as you should do when finishing said check. The issue is it was his head that was the contact point. putting the sole blame on whether he put himself in that position is the whole issue with this rule... . If contact was coincidental, i'd agree but it wasn't. I don't think Sedin is a dirty player at all but this hit puts him on the radar, intentional or not. I don't think its suspendable, that I'll agree wth you on but he should get a call from Shanny (for what thats worth)
- geta02it

So far this season Shanny hasnt handed out dicipline for your interpitation of "contact point". What you think they should enforce and what is enforced are two entirely different things altogether.

I see the contact to the head as part of the body check. It happens almost every game at some point. If rodents like Duthie didnt point it out...nobody would have even noticed. The only guy I give credibilty to on that panel is McKenzie and he said exactly what I've been saying from the moment I saw it. Shoulder to body with head being coincidental.

Agreed. Apart from the first few games (which is hard to gauge) Kassian hasn't been given much of chance with skilled linemates. Will be interesting to see.

Booth-Kesler-Burrows on paper looks dynamite. Still no playmakers there but who cares, they can all get it to the net.

EDIT: We need to start scoring.
- AlexF

Burrows can make the plays/passes. Let's hope he does and Kesler and Booth finish.

Actually I think you do.
- VANTEL

good one.

What line does Kassian play on? What line does Hodgson play on? How much ice time does Kassian get? How much ice time does Hodgson Get?

Stupid comparison

That's what Ray Ferraro said and he is between the benches. And all I saw of Kassian was him trying to chase down Keith (unsuccessfully) and Keith whirled around the net. Don't have to apologize to me, I hate Keith for what he did too.

Also, Hodgson is lookin better and better. Boom boyo.
- vancity sabre

What's your issue, bud? Canucks fans and Sabres fans usually get along great, and mostly agree that the trade should be good for both teams. There's no reason to run down either player.

So, how bout those White Caps

Actually.. no, no it doesn't. He's a repeat offender because he has been fined for spearing and sucker punches from the bench... and has also been called a few times before the NHL disciplinary committee.

so yea, he's a repeat offender.
- Kieran

Nope. Never fined for that.

He was fined for his comments regarding Referee Stephane Auger.

You're really pulling stuff out of your arse here. If you had a good point I'd admit, but making stuff up? Nah. Kinda pathetic.

So, how bout those White Caps
- 1970vintage

Lions gave Geroy an extension.

Nope. Never fined for that.

He was fined for his comments regarding Referee Stephane Auger.

You're really pulling stuff out of your arse here. If you had a good point I'd admit, but making stuff up? Nah. Kinda pathetic.
- Mattjd123

I think it is time to move on from the Hawks . It was a spirited game. I think if they meet in the playoffs the Canucks should check and see how Toews is doing and send the Hawks a friendly reminder that it is not nice to go after star players. Don't get mad get even.