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pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Mar 23 @ 8:52 AM ET
Kerry Fraser

Daniel Sedin should not have gotten a free pass last night in the game either. His high hit on Duncan Keith warranted at least a minor penalty for boarding or as I would prefer, an illegal check to the head. Even though this is not the type of hit you would expect from Daniel Sedin nor does he have a previous history, his illegal contact to the head of Duncan Keith should also be reviewed and dealt with







VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:12 AM ET
Very well said. If only they could say Keith serves six game. Three regular, three playoffs. That would be ideal
- TheCouv

25 games for intent to injure

Or Daniel sues the NHL and Keith.

Maybe someone has audio of Keith threatning Sedin.I think a couple of people were just suspended for the season in the NFL because of intent to injure . Anyone else hear about that maybe New Orleans?

One league does it right the other hands out whimpy 3 games suspension.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:17 AM ET
Kerry Fraser
- pri$ey

If there was an illegal head shot from Sedin it too should be dealt with. I have not seen the video of that , maybe you can post it. I did see clear video of Keith leading with his elbow to Sedins head so that is a definite suspension.

This act that Keith did ,had the exact same circumstances that Bertuzzi had with Moore and should be treated exactly the same.
Sconnie
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Joined: 08.20.2009

Mar 23 @ 9:25 AM ET
i stopped reading when you said Sedins hit on Keith was a hockey hit, dude what a fing joke.
- Dojodan
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:32 AM ET
Big team win.

Bieksa and Burrows are heating up my pool :thumbsup:

I hope the Canucks can keep up the emotion from here on in.

- boonerbuck



Booner this surprises me all things considered with Juice.
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:35 AM ET
Schneider starts in Colorado on Saturday?
- micah555



Please...and the 1st game of the playoffs until they lift The Cup.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Mar 23 @ 9:37 AM ET
If there was an illegal head shot from Sedin it too should be dealt with. I have not seen the video of that , maybe you can post it. I did see clear video of Keith leading with his elbow to Sedins head so that is a definite suspension.

This act that Keith did ,had the exact same circumstances that Bertuzzi had with Moore and should be treated exactly the same.

- VANTEL


I know you're smarter than that.

http://yfrog.com/ocjb6rp

Shoulder to the chin of an unexpecting player from a lateral position.. textbook check the league is trying to get rid of.

Most Hawk fans know what Keith did was wrong.. It's telling that most Canuck fans wont acknowledge what Sedin did was wrong.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:40 AM ET
I know you're smarter than that.

http://yfrog.com/ocjb6rp

- pri$ey


Tell me how it is differen?Questionable hit ,followed with a threat of revenge,followed by the cheap blind side shot with the injury.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:41 AM ET
I know you're smarter than that.

http://yfrog.com/ocjb6rp

Shoulder to the chin of an unexpecting player from a lateral position.. textbook check the league is trying to get rid of.

Most Hawk fans know what Keith did was wrong.. It's telling that most Canuck fans wont acknowledge what Sedin did was wrong.

- pri$ey

I didn't see the Sedin hit and if it was wrong as I said he should be suspended too.That is why I asked if there was video. That is one blurry picture can't really see too much. I agree with you if Sedin had a cheap shot suspend him too. That picture does not show speed ,circumstances and is not a clear cut show of intent to injure. There needs to be more than just that for any kind of conviction.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:46 AM ET
Typical looser... its hockey... players get hurt.. get over it and stop crying the blues.. you deal with and go back to playing hockey.. or you can sit around cry on the board.
- wolverine19

So with that mentality it is ok to take your stick and swing it at a players head, because hockey players get hurt.

Most Chicago fans are cool ,knowlegable and have an open mind. I am guessing you were given a weekend pass from the asylum.
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:47 AM ET
Typical moron.Your team has it's captain sitting in his bedroom with sunglasses on missing game after game and you joke about someone else receiving a vicious hit and may be gone for the season because of a cheap shot punk.
- VANTEL



Van remember the fanbase you're dealing with here. They are a bunch of bandwagon homers who were non-existent for nearly a decade. I live here and have family and friends who are Hawk fans and believe me most of them are clueless. They were jumping ship a short few weeks ago when the Hawks were losing, putting away all their Hawks gear for the summer already, crying that they won't even make the playoffs. Now it's all back out saying the Cup is coming back...clueless.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
Van remember the fanbase you're dealing with here. They are a bunch of bandwagon homers who were non-existent for nearly a decade. I live here and have family and friends who are Hawk fans and believe me most of them are clueless. They were jumping ship a short few weeks ago when the Hawks were losing, putting away all their Hawks gear for the summer already, crying that they won't even make the playoffs. Now it's all back out saying the Cup is coming back...clueless.
- CanUSA17



I like most of them but there are a few clowns.
rdfred
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Seward, AK
Joined: 09.27.2005

Mar 23 @ 9:54 AM ET
How quickly VAN fans forget about the unpunished head-shot Brent Seabrook took from Torres in the playoffs last year.
- acmidd28


Short memory -- or selective? Almost every Canucks fan thought Torres' hit was bad and should have been suspendable. There's a reason Gillis didn't offer him a contract for this season. He was a loose cannon at times....
wolverine19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Thunder Bay, ON
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 23 @ 10:20 AM ET
Van remember the fanbase you're dealing with here. They are a bunch of bandwagon homers who were non-existent for nearly a decade. I live here and have family and friends who are Hawk fans and believe me most of them are clueless. They were jumping ship a short few weeks ago when the Hawks were losing, putting away all their Hawks gear for the summer already, crying that they won't even make the playoffs. Now it's all back out saying the Cup is coming back...clueless.
- CanUSA17


all hale..... Vancouver!
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
Well that was a helluva work day

Are you guys still pissing and moaning over the Keith hit? I'm hearing the NHL want's an in person meeting, could be around 8 games?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
The reason this should be 25 games or more.

If there is audio of Keith threatning Sedin and a ref standing beside the play hearing it,there could be a major suit (a la Bertuzzi) against the NHL. If you have a verbal threat followed with that player skating over to to player the other player and swinging his elbow with intent to injure ,then Sedin if he is out for any length of time (a la Bergeron or Pronger) could sue the NHL for not protecting the players.If there was a verbal threat heard by a ref then Keith should have been ejected from the game. They will throw you out for making banana comments why not someone threatning to injure?
Insurance companies are going to get tired of paying these long term injuries Pronger Bregeron Crosby Toews Ballard Sedin (maybe).Work safe Canada may also step in telling the NHL to clean up their act before someone is killed.

On that elbow there was no hockey play.It was a clear intent to injure and should be penalized with at least 25 games like Cooke or Bertuzzi.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
The hearing isn't until later today.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
The hearing isn't until later today.
- LeftCoaster

In that case, Wolverine gets his post deleted
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Mar 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
In that case, Wolverine gets his post deleted
- Juice


I dont see the point he was trying to prove...
frafra
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 23 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think the real problem here is the ignorance you Vancouver fans show when defending your team.

As a Hawks fan, Keiths hit on Sedin was dirty, and I understand 100% why you would be yelling for a suspension. If Sedin is out for a while, that is a major loss to your team, and as a fan I can understand your frustrations. I would feel the same way if somebody took a run at a 19, 88, 10, or 81.

You can not honestly watch clips of Sedins hit earlier on Keith and say that Sedins was clean. He clearly took a shot at Keiths head, no debate.

For all of you Vancouver fans, maybe the best thing for you to do is take a step back from your love for your team and watch from a realistic perspective how some of your players play the game.

Both Sedins and Luongo could all win awards for half of the acting they put on. Burrows and hisPulling of hair, biting, and his after the whistle shenanigans are a disgrace. We all talk about Keith/Sedin being suspended, how about Burrows for breaking a common bond between men, and breaking what some would call a MAN law and kneeing Keith in his balls while he is laying on the ice!!!!
Bieksa must feel real tough with his after the whistle shots on players half his size.
You have no problem giving your team the benefit of doubt, or turning your heads when it comes to close/debatable plays and hits, but you are the first to cry out when it happens back.

Your team is extremely talented. They'd be way less hated if they played the game with respect. Maybe teams like the Hawks and Boston just bring it out of them when they play them? You can bring back your argument about Hawks players your think are dirty, and that's okay. I'm aware that there are plenty of current, and former Hawks players during their successes who did things that walked the line. The facts are though, this Hawks team this year is softer than a blizzard from dairy queen. But they have shown when they want to physically engage back against teams, they can be extremely dangerous.

Enjoy the clip below. For all of you fans who probably turned your head to your boy Burrows, this is what you missed! Such a tough guy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vp8f-byXU
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:00 AM ET

I dont see the point he was trying to prove...

- nucks_94

Yep...solved nothing other than waste my time.

Teaches me a lesson...not everything I read on the internet is true.

*Sets fire to the Nash, Getzlaf, Stamkos and Parise Leafs jersey's he bought*
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Wow...500+ posts in here. Ian's a rock star, in a Richard Cloutier kinda way
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Mar 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
I think the real problem here is the ignorance you Vancouver fans show when defending your team.

As a Hawks fan, Keiths hit on Sedin was dirty, and I understand 100% why you would be yelling for a suspension. If Sedin is out for a while, that is a major loss to your team, and as a fan I can understand your frustrations. I would feel the same way if somebody took a run at a 19, 88, 10, or 81.

You can not honestly watch clips of Sedins hit earlier on Keith and say that Sedins was clean. He clearly took a shot at Keiths head, no debate.

For all of you Vancouver fans, maybe the best thing for you to do is take a step back from your love for your team and watch from a realistic perspective how some of your players play the game.

Both Sedins and Luongo could all win awards for half of the acting they put on. Burrows and hisPulling of hair, biting, and his after the whistle shenanigans are a disgrace. We all talk about Keith/Sedin being suspended, how about Burrows for breaking a common bond between men, and breaking what some would call a MAN law and kneeing Keith in his balls while he is laying on the ice!!!!
Bieksa must feel real tough with his after the whistle shots on players half his size.
You have no problem giving your team the benefit of doubt, or turning your heads when it comes to close/debatable plays and hits, but you are the first to cry out when it happens back.

Your team is extremely talented. They'd be way less hated if they played the game with respect. Maybe teams like the Hawks and Boston just bring it out of them when they play them? You can bring back your argument about Hawks players your think are dirty, and that's okay. I'm aware that there are plenty of current, and former Hawks players during their successes who did things that walked the line. The facts are though, this Hawks team this year is softer than a blizzard from dairy queen. But they have shown when they want to physically engage back against teams, they can be extremely dangerous.

Enjoy the clip below. For all of you fans who probably turned your head to your boy Burrows, this is what you missed! Such a tough guy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vp8f-byXU

- frafra



Sedin maybe could have got a 2 minute minor for contacting the head with his shoulder. That's all. That's what is in the rule book, and the ref missed the call. Maybe the refs in question get a call from the NHL reminding them of the rule, but Sedin will not. He's not going to get a suspension/fine/anything.

Shoulder making contact with the head of puck carrier: 2 minute penalty

Elbow making contact with head of non puck carrier: suspension.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
That was my point. All of a sudden it went from a conference call that is a 5 game max to a in person which is infinite. Some new medical news has reached Shanny I suspect.
- boonerbuck


I heard the refs may have been contacted about Keith threatening Daniel before the hit, and they most likely confirmed the threat occurred.
Juice
Location: "There are a few posters who a
Joined: 12.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think the real problem here is the ignorance you Vancouver fans show when defending your team.

As a Hawks fan, Keiths hit on Sedin was dirty, and I understand 100% why you would be yelling for a suspension. If Sedin is out for a while, that is a major loss to your team, and as a fan I can understand your frustrations. I would feel the same way if somebody took a run at a 19, 88, 10, or 81.

You can not honestly watch clips of Sedins hit earlier on Keith and say that Sedins was clean. He clearly took a shot at Keiths head, no debate.

For all of you Vancouver fans, maybe the best thing for you to do is take a step back from your love for your team and watch from a realistic perspective how some of your players play the game.

Both Sedins and Luongo could all win awards for half of the acting they put on. Burrows and hisPulling of hair, biting, and his after the whistle shenanigans are a disgrace. We all talk about Keith/Sedin being suspended, how about Burrows for breaking a common bond between men, and breaking what some would call a MAN law and kneeing Keith in his balls while he is laying on the ice!!!!
Bieksa must feel real tough with his after the whistle shots on players half his size.
You have no problem giving your team the benefit of doubt, or turning your heads when it comes to close/debatable plays and hits, but you are the first to cry out when it happens back.

Your team is extremely talented. They'd be way less hated if they played the game with respect. Maybe teams like the Hawks and Boston just bring it out of them when they play them? You can bring back your argument about Hawks players your think are dirty, and that's okay. I'm aware that there are plenty of current, and former Hawks players during their successes who did things that walked the line. The facts are though, this Hawks team this year is softer than a blizzard from dairy queen. But they have shown when they want to physically engage back against teams, they can be extremely dangerous.

Enjoy the clip below. For all of you fans who probably turned your head to your boy Burrows, this is what you missed! Such a tough guy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vp8f-byXU

- frafra


Fair post. Totally valid and transparent points. And I 100% agree.
But it's what 99% of fans do with their team...they're innocent and everyone else is guilty. Some Leafs fans even go as far as blaming the refs/NHL for being against them.

It's the sad and embarassing part of sports fans. It can bring out the immature child in some people.
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