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flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
My understanding of the emergency call up is that harry Z has to play, so who is sitting?

I heard Giroux was a bit sick?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:20 AM ET
Well, if this is the case, I hope they call up Klotz, sit Roo, Read and any of the smaller players. Basically, the Pens will no doubt sit Crysby Frankenmalken etc, and then just try and run every Flyer that's left.. Should be good times.
- Hextall271


Malkin is one goal away from 50. He's not sitting today.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
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Apr 7 @ 9:20 AM ET
My understanding of the emergency call up is that harry Z has to play, so who is sitting?

I heard Giroux was a bit sick?

- flyers2001

That's what they were saying yesterday. But I wouldn't be surprised if his wrist is still a bit wonky. Although if Sid is sitting, he wouldn't have to worry about it being aggravated.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:21 AM ET
....gratuitous?

I do not think that word means what you think it means....

When a star player, the best player in the world, is cross-checked by a Brayden "I'm trying to prove that I'm a tough guy by cross-checking a guy with concussion issues in the back" Shenn, there's nothing gratuitous about any response.

- Prez_USA



So because Crosby is a star player (not the best in the world this season) no one should hit him and he should be allowed to slash\hit\do whatever he wants?

Yes it was a gratuituous (uncessary) hit on Brierre.. It was 100% a legal hit but it was uncessary with the game decided. If Rinaldo did the same thing to Crosby with the game decided I would say the same thing.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
How in the name of God was Joe's hit an intent to injure move? Just because Danny says it was intent to injure, it doesn't mean that it's true. It was a clean check to Danny's chest. Since when does that constitute intent to injure?

Seriously, what were the Pens supposed to do at the end of the game, just stop playing? Get the puck and not even attempt to take it out of their own end? Jeez, that would be lame.

- Prez_USA


The hit alone was not an intent to injure, it was a perfectly clean hit. The reaction it got out of all 4 players on the ice with Briere and the Flyers coach... tells me there was more involved.

Claude Giroux was on the radio yesterday and he said that players keep their talking to the ice and don't like to spill it into the media. This is definitely accurate with the way the Flyers players operate.

I am not saying it is the case, but I am sure there was a ton of talking about Schenn hitting Crosby and it could easily be the case that Vitale or some of the Penguins players were threatening to go after the Flyers stars. Just so happens Briere is on Schenns line as well.

Like I said, the hit alone was not dirty. It was a clean, textbook open ice hit. The questions is, was there talk before it about going after Flyers players in retaliation to them hitting Crosby?

We will never know but with the reaction of the Flyers... I would tend to think that was the case.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
Schenn should have a pretty interesting game today Welcome to the Flyers Brayden
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
To be honest, I dont think Sid threw himself down. A crosscheck to the back no matter how hard will typically send you to the ice. The issue I have is that the only thing shown is that crosscheck. During the game NBC has Crosby on ISO cam the entire game, they had footage of what he did to Schenn prior to that and just chose not to show it.

Sid and Malkin are dirty players and if Penguins fans try to defend that it is just foolish.

Malkin actually gets called on his stupid dirty play late in games when he gets frustrated... Crosby almost always gets away with it.

- Flyers2821

You don't think he did? Think, man. He is VERY difficult to knock off the puck when he has it but the slightest tap away from the play sends him sprawling. The puck must be to Sid what uncut hair was to Samson.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:25 AM ET
So because Crosby is a star player (not the best in the world this season) no one should hit him and he should be allowed to slash\hit\do whatever he wants?

Yes it was a gratuituous (uncessary) hit on Brierre.. It was 100% a legal hit but it was uncessary with the game decided. If Rinaldo did the same thing to Crosby with the game decided I would say the same thing.

- opeth_pa


Don't forget that he had a concussion too. You know, like 50% of the rest of the league. And like Briere. But Briere's a whiner, so his concussion doesn't count I guess.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:26 AM ET
The hit alone was not an intent to injure, it was a perfectly clean hit. The reaction it got out of all 4 players on the ice with Briere and the Flyers coach... tells me there was more involved.

Claude Giroux was on the radio yesterday and he said that players keep their talking to the ice and don't like to spill it into the media. This is definitely accurate with the way the Flyers players operate.

I am not saying it is the case, but I am sure there was a ton of talking about Schenn hitting Crosby and it could easily be the case that Vitale or some of the Penguins players were threatening to go after the Flyers stars. Just so happens Briere is on Schenns line as well.

Like I said, the hit alone was not dirty. It was a clean, textbook open ice hit. The questions is, was there talk before it about going after Flyers players in retaliation to them hitting Crosby?

We will never know but with the reaction of the Flyers... I would tend to think that was the case.

- Flyers2821


It was moronic for Briere to be on the ice in a 6-3 game with a minute left. Especially after everything that transpired beforehand. It was an injury that could have been avoided. If Briere misses any playoff games, it's strictly on Laviolette.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:26 AM ET
You don't think he did? Think, man. He is VERY difficult to knock off the puck when he has it but the slightest tap away from the play sends him sprawling. The puck must be to Sid what uncut hair was to Samson.
- Flyskippy


He was skating back to the bench and got crosschecked in the back... lol Its not like he went flying with his arms and hands flailing. He just went down to the ice... he wasn't diving.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
To be honest, I dont think Sid threw himself down. A crosscheck to the back no matter how hard will typically send you to the ice. The issue I have is that the only thing shown is that crosscheck. During the game NBC has Crosby on ISO cam the entire game, they had footage of what he did to Schenn prior to that and just chose not to show it.

Sid and Malkin are dirty players and if Penguins fans try to defend that it is just foolish.

Malkin actually gets called on his stupid dirty play late in games when he gets frustrated... Crosby almost always gets away with it.

- Flyers2821


I don't think Crosby embellished either. You get pushed from behind like that, on skates, you fall down. The problem I have with it is that it was after the whistle and it was from behind. Seems kind of gutless to me. I know things like that go on all the time and no harm was done, but I don't like it. If Schenn has a problem with something Crosby did than he needs to get in Crosby's face about it.

Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:28 AM ET
It was moronic for Briere to be on the ice in a 6-3 game with a minute left. Especially after everything that transpired beforehand. It was an injury that could have been avoided. If Briere misses any playoff games, it's strictly on Laviolette.
- PLindbergh31


I disagree with that and completely based off of my opinion that pulling guys from the game because of the score should not happen in any sport. Just my personal opinion. You play the game from beginning to end.

nsm5050
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Latrobe, PA
Joined: 07.04.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
Well, if this is the case, I hope they call up Klotz, sit Roo, Read and any of the smaller players. Basically, the Pens will no doubt sit Crysby Frankenmalken etc, and then just try and run every Flyer that's left.. Should be good times.
- Hextall271


Yes, I may be wearing the black&gold shaded glasses but I seriously doubt you see Big Mac out against anyone but Shelley. Asham and Rinaldo already have their feud brewing and even though Engelland could hold his own against Shelley, I think Bylsma doesn't want to risk losing a solid defenseman to someone who has absolutely no effect on a game hence the Big Mac call up
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
He was skating back to the bench and got crosschecked in the back... lol Its not like he went flying with his arms and hands flailing. He just went down to the ice... he wasn't diving.
- Flyers2821

Every bone in his body turned to water.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
I don't think Crosby embellished either. You get pushed from behind like that, on skates, you fall down. The problem I have with it is that it was after the whistle and it was from behind. Seems kind of gutless to me. I know things like that go on all the time and no harm was done, but I don't like it. If Schenn has a problem with something Crosby did than he needs to get in Crosby's face about it.
- Dkos


Crosby doesn't strike me as the type of player to own up on the ice to the stuff he does, so I think getting in his face about it isn't as easy as other players. I'm sure I'll be corrected though
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:30 AM ET
I don't think Crosby embellished either. You get pushed from behind like that, on skates, you fall down. The problem I have with it is that it was after the whistle and it was from behind. Seems kind of gutless to me. I know things like that go on all the time and no harm was done, but I don't like it. If Schenn has a problem with something Crosby did than he needs to get in Crosby's face about it.
- Dkos


I have no problem with what Schenn did because it is really nothing more than a tape from behind that sent Crosby to the ice. That play could happen 100 times in a row and Crosby would not get hurt on any of them. It really is nothing even though Crosby went down to the ice.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 7 @ 9:30 AM ET
So because Crosby is a star player (not the best in the world this season) no one should hit him and he should be allowed to slash\hit\do whatever he wants?

Yes it was a gratuituous (uncessary) hit on Brierre.. It was 100% a legal hit but it was uncessary with the game decided. If Rinaldo did the same thing to Crosby with the game decided I would say the same thing.

- opeth_pa


I hate hits like this. The intent of hits like this is to injure a player...not to take him off the puck. Hits like this is one of the major reasons I don't like Mike Richards and didn't want him on the Flyers.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:31 AM ET
Yes, I may be wearing the black&gold shaded glasses but I seriously doubt you see Big Mac out against anyone but Shelley. Asham and Rinaldo already have their feud brewing and even though Engelland could hold his own against Shelley, I think Bylsma doesn't want to risk losing a solid defenseman to someone who has absolutely no effect on a game hence the Big Mac call up
- nsm5050


I think everyone is over thinking this and both teams are gonna come out wanting to win this game.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:32 AM ET
I disagree with that and completely based off of my opinion that pulling guys from the game because of the score should not happen in any sport. Just my personal opinion. You play the game from beginning to end.
- Flyers2821


What? That makes no sense. So in sports when the outcome of the game is decided all the regular players should play until the final buzzer? That's not the way it works in any sport.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:33 AM ET
What? That makes no sense. So in sports when the outcome of the game is decided all the regular players should play until the final buzzer? That's not the way it works in any sport.
- PLindbergh31


It's how it works in New England for one little team called the Patriots... I know it's not how it works in sports and I can't stand that part of it.

The problem is not that good players are on the field/ice... it is that good players get lazy late in games and put themselves in harms way.

Perfect example is Briere. When was the last time Briere took a big hit like that? He doesn't. He got lazy and was skating with his head down and got smoked. The blame is on Briere, not Laviolette.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 7 @ 9:34 AM ET
Crosby doesn't strike me as the type of player to own up on the ice to the stuff he does, so I think getting in his face about it isn't as easy as other players. I'm sure I'll be corrected though
- eayost


seems cowardly to cross check a guy in the back as he's skating to the bench during a stoppage. Schenn didn't even wait around for a response...just skated to the bench like nothing happened. I didn't like it.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
seems cowardly to cross check a guy in the back as he's skating to the bench during a stoppage. Schenn didn't even wait around for a response...just skated to the bench like nothing happened. I didn't like it.
- Dkos


It's barely a crosscheck. It was basically just a push.

You run that exact play 100 times and Crosby doesn't even come close to getting injured
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
It's how it works in New England for one little team called the Patriots... I know it's not how it works in sports and I can't stand that part of it.
- Flyers2821


Yeah, and you saw two years ago when Wes Welker blew his knee out playing in a meaningless game right?
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
seems cowardly to cross check a guy in the back as he's skating to the bench during a stoppage. Schenn didn't even wait around for a response...just skated to the bench like nothing happened. I didn't like it.
- Dkos

Did you see the full sequence with the shots Crosby was giving Schenn that led up to it. This wasn't goon on choirboy action.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Apr 7 @ 9:36 AM ET
Yeah, and you saw two years ago when Wes Welker blew his knee out playing in a meaningless game right?
- PLindbergh31


Players get injured in sports.
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