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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:20 AM ET
Maybe, but the travel in the Western Conf. is brutal compared to the Eastern Conf. That can't be understated.

I'm still awaiting a Flyers President's Trophy, Norris Trophy, Calder Trophy, Rocket Richard.... I will stop now before I get depressed....

- PLindbergh31



I would take a trip through Alberta over a back to back with the Flyers any day of the week. If I'm looking for points that is. I wouldn't trade the playoff match up for anyone.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:21 AM ET
Probably trying to convince himself he can & that it's worth the risk.
- ob18



He's a hockey player ob, if it wasn't for doctors half these guys might be dead because they don't want to believe what their bodies are telling them.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:25 AM ET
Grossmann was priority # 1, like you stated a few days ago. Next priority is to lock up Voracek. After that, Flyers are going to have to get creative in finding a way to replace Carle.
- PLindbergh31


I dont know if they will replace Carle but what they can do is find another defenseman who fits what their looking for cheaper. They will need the other guys to step up and eat more minutes. Going into the season I didnt expect the Flyers to have the depth that they do. MAB, Gus, Manning (limited time) all did a decent job this year.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:25 AM ET
I would take a trip through Alberta over a back to back with the Flyers any day of the week. If I'm looking for points that is. I wouldn't trade the playoff match up for anyone.
- canadianpenfan


Yeah, the Western Conf had some real weak links this year. Edmonton and Columbus being the two worst teams in the NHL by a significant margin.

Playoffs are always fantastic, one thing that is guaranteed is chalk won't hold up. It never does.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:26 AM ET
I dont know if they will replace Carle but what they can do is find another defenseman who fits what their looking for cheaper. They will need the other guys to step up and eat more minutes. Going into the season I didnt expect the Flyers to have the depth that they do. MAB, Gus, Manning (limited time) all did a decent job this year.
- stveshdy


If the D-core next year is:

Timonen
Grossmann
Coburn
Meszaros
Player X
MAB

That is fairly solid, depending who player X is. Of course the best case scenario is player X is Pronger.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:27 AM ET
Yeah, the Western Conf had some real weak links this year. Edmonton and Columbus being the two worst teams in the NHL by a significant margin.

Playoffs are always fantastic, one thing that is guaranteed is chalk won't hold up. It never does.

- PLindbergh31


I said during this past summer I would love for the Flyers to trade for J. Quick and looking at his numbers this season the guy played amazing.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:27 AM ET
He's a hockey player ob, if it wasn't for doctors half these guys might be dead because they don't want to believe what their bodies are telling them.
- canadianpenfan


I know, however some may still need to convince themselves for whatever reasons & in this case like others it's wise to have those people around him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:28 AM ET
I said during this past summer I would love for the Flyers to trade for J. Quick and looking at his numbers this season the guy played amazing.
- stveshdy


I wanted Quick as well. Not sure he was available.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:30 AM ET
I wanted Quick as well. Not sure he was available.
- PLindbergh31


Rumors said he was because of Bernier. The Kings made the right choice and held on to both. Bernier is going to be a starter in this league and Quick is to good at this point to move.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:30 AM ET
I know, however some may still need to convince themselves for whatever reasons & in this case like others it's wise to have those people around him.
- ob18



Yes no doubt. My only point is you can't trust the players because they'll just tell you they're good to go. He wants to play and I worry if he all of a sudden feels "fine" because they get down 0-2 in the series or something.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:31 AM ET
I wanted Quick as well. Not sure he was available.
- PLindbergh31



Thank god you didn't get him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:31 AM ET
Rumors said he was because of Bernier. The Kings made the right choice and held on to both. Bernier is going to be a starter in this league and Quick is to good at this point to move.
- stveshdy


Yup. Quick is going nowhere now.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:32 AM ET
I know, however some may still need to convince themselves for whatever reasons & in this case like others it's wise to have those people around him.
- ob18


The reports I read online was that Toews was doing well and not having any problems. He was suppose to dress Thursday and then was held back. I dont know if he is having symptoms or he is being held out for the playoffs.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:32 AM ET
I wanted Quick as well. Not sure he was available.
- PLindbergh31


On top of that he is due a huge raise that would kick in for the '13-'14 season.

I'd also doubt he would have been moved they still really don't know what they have behind him since he's played so well.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:33 AM ET
The reports I read online was that Toews was doing well and not having any problems. He was suppose to dress Thursday and then was held back. I dont know if he is having symptoms or he is being held out for the playoffs.
- stveshdy


He may say he has no problems but others may see something else that doesn't appear right. He's young & has a long career ahead of him, it's wise to play it safe.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:34 AM ET
Thank god you didn't get him.
- canadianpenfan


Everyone talks about Lundqvist but Quick is the best goalie in the league this season.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:34 AM ET
He may say he has no problems but others may see something else that doesn't appear right. He's young & has a long career ahead of him, it's wise to play it safe.
- ob18



I posted a quote from him last page, he is admitting to having symptoms on the ice. Which tells me he's a long way off.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:35 AM ET
He may say he has no problems but others may see something else that doesn't appear right. He's young & has a long career ahead of him, it's wise to play it safe.
- ob18


The doctors gave him clearance for contact and was practicing. Things can change fast in a hurry but I didnt think he was having an issue again. Hopefully they held him out for the playoffs but if he is having problems it would be wise to shut him down until next year.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:35 AM ET
I posted a quote from him last page, he is admitting to having symptoms on the ice. Which tells me he's a long way off.
- canadianpenfan


I saw, but that can change everyday with how he feels. We know the team is doing the right thing, that's all that matters.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:36 AM ET
The doctors gave him clearance for contact and was practicing. Things can change fast in a hurry but I didnt think he was having an issue again. Hopefully they held him out for the playoffs but if he is having problems it would be wise to shut him down until next year.
- stveshdy


Agreed, shut it down.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:37 AM ET
Everyone talks about Lundqvist but Quick is the best goalie in the league this season.
- stveshdy


Quick, Lundqvist, and Smith all basically had equal seasons. It truly is splitting hairs separating them numbers wise. It is virtually a dead heat. I suspect Lundqvist will win the Vezina due to his teams success as well as name recognition. And last but not least he plays in NYC.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:37 AM ET
Everyone talks about Lundqvist but Quick is the best goalie in the league this season.
- stveshdy



It's really hard to judge because of the styles the teams play. I wouldn't take any other goalie over Fleury, only because I think his athletic style is needed for the Pens style. The Rangers and Kings both play a style that allows alot of perimeter shots. I don't know, just hard for me to gauge. For my money Rinne is the best goaltender in the game but there really isn't alot of seperation between the top 5 or so.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 8 @ 12:39 AM ET
w0000000 SHARKS tie it up they deserve it the kings have been playing dirty!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 8 @ 12:41 AM ET
Quick, Lundqvist, and Smith all basically had equal seasons. It truly is splitting hairs separating them numbers wise. It is virtually a dead heat. I suspect Lundqvist will win the Vezina due to his teams success as well as name recognition. And last but not least he plays in NYC.
- PLindbergh31


NYR 11th in goals for
LAK 29th in goals for

LAK 2nd in goals against
NYR 3rd in goals against

Quick and Lundqvist are very close numbers wise. I think Quick should win it when your team cant score.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 8 @ 12:43 AM ET
NYR 11th in goals for
LAK 29th in goals for

LAK 2nd in goals against
NYR 3rd in goals against

Quick and Lundqvist are very close numbers wise. I think Quick should win it when your team cant score.

- stveshdy


Fair point. I wouldn't have an issue if Quick won it.
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