i bet he's doing a laviolette impression in some bunker in front of their team
- flyerscup2011

He gave his team that played like that yesterday, now down 3-0 the day off today. I'd have them staking goal line to goal line all morning after that mess. He's checked out too it seems.

One for the Couts hit and one for the Giroux hit
- Jsaquella

they can't discuss this all at once? i mean, honestly....

as a flyers fan and as the least (?) out spoken person when it comes to unfair treatment from the league and officials i'm just happy there's any hearing
- flyerscup2011

i am too, but there has to be. with the clownshows going on in half the series, he has to put his foot down now.

so he calls in regarding the charge on cooter, gets nothing, hangs up, calls back, and then gets suspended for elbowing giroux in the head?
- hammarby31

No, they simply discuss both incidents, likely means he's getting a fine for one and a suspension for the other.

Kypreos reports that Neal will have TWO phone hearings with Shanahan and Asham will have an in person hearing...The NHL might suspend 3 Pens for game 4
- Jsaquella

They should.

Asham - self explanatory.

Neal - going after a player without the puck, leaving feet, intent to injure

Adams - ??? What is the defense. Third man in. Punching a player from behind. Double teaming which is illegal in the WWF. Pulling hair (also illegal in the WWF).

Penguins have tough players but everything is a slash, cheap shot, hit on a guy without the puck. Asham is a former Flyer - he knows better. He should have taken on Simmonds or Rinaldo.

The Penguins not only were cheap shot artists but ruined their own chances of winning by being reckless. I can't imagine Malkin likes playing in this environment.

Crosby, on the other hand, seems right at home.

they can't discuss this all at once? i mean, honestly....
- hammarby31

I think it's for recording purposes...now Neal has 4 separate incidents, instead of 3.

they can't discuss this all at once? i mean, honestly....
- hammarby31

They can discuss it all at one time, which they will. But TWO hearings is to make each incident a separate event for purposes of repeat offender status

No, they simply discuss both incidents, likely means he's getting a fine for one and a suspension for the other.
- Jsaquella

it just sounds silly to say two separate hearings.

they can't discuss this all at once? i mean, honestly....
- hammarby31

Separate incidents for future consideration next time he does something stupid.

I think it's for recording purposes...now Neal has 4 separate incidents, instead of 3.
- bradleyc4

ok, that makes sense.

They should.

Asham - self explanatory.

Neal - going after a player without the puck, leaving feet, intent to injure

Adams - ??? What is the defense. Third man in. Punching a player from behind. Double teaming which is illegal in the WWF. Pulling hair (also illegal in the WWF).

Penguins have tough players but everything is a slash, cheap shot, hit on a guy without the puck. Asham is a former Flyer - he knows better. He should have taken on Simmonds or Rinaldo.

The Penguins not only were cheap shot artists but ruined their own chances of winning by being reckless. I can't imagine Malkin likes playing in this environment.

Crosby, on the other hand, seems right at home.
- Daman

Asham's suspension is automatic with the match penalty. So is Adams, with an instigator assessed in the last five minutes. Bylsma will also be getting fined for that.

Neal's punishment is the interesting one.

He gave his team that played like that yesterday, now down 3-0 the day off today. I'd have them staking goal line to goal line all morning after that mess. He's checked out too it seems.
- hereticpride

good point. given his comments following the islanders melee, his reputation is kinda at stake. for a person who truly earned his sterling reputation as a player, i can't see him letting some clowns who belong in the ufc destroying that.

so he calls in regarding the charge on cooter, gets nothing, hangs up, calls back, and then gets suspended for elbowing giroux in the head?
- hammarby31

They probably will deal with each incident separately.

My guess is Neal gets 3 games ...Asham 2
- keatondixon

I'd be surprised if Asham isn't done for at least the rest of this series.

They should.

Asham - self explanatory.

Neal - going after a player without the puck, leaving feet, intent to injure

Adams - ??? What is the defense. Third man in. Punching a player from behind. Double teaming which is illegal in the WWF. Pulling hair (also illegal in the WWF).

Penguins have tough players but everything is a slash, cheap shot, hit on a guy without the puck. Asham is a former Flyer - he knows better. He should have taken on Simmonds or Rinaldo.

The Penguins not only were cheap shot artists but ruined their own chances of winning by being reckless. I can't imagine Malkin likes playing in this environment.

Crosby, on the other hand, seems right at home.
- Daman

the pens blew it yesterday, they really did. got the early goal, and then the gong show ensued. i know it's not over, but this is (frank)ing over.

I'd be surprised if Asham isn't done for at least the rest of this series.
- Jsaquella

he has to be.

I'm guessing a game for hitting Couts and max fine for Giroux. I'd like to see more but two hearing scheduled already being a repeat offender basically ensures a suspension.
- hereticpride

Well NHL Network basically glossed over the Neal hits, but with the suspension coming, or at least the 2 calls, the media is going to be all over this. I'm telling you this is how the love-child team gets to become the heels...

All its going to take is 1 media person metioning the Lemieux quotes, and how Torts and Lavi were right and I can see the media storm starting... And people will look back to the diving, the slashes, the no hand-shake... last game from Crosby and see what kind of player he is...

good point. given his comments following the islanders melee, his reputation is kinda at stake. for a person who truly earned his sterling reputation as a player, i can't see him letting some clowns who belong in the ufc destroying that.
- flyerscup2011

Huh? Lemieux was a known whiner and diver during his playing days, and wasn't above some chippiness.

Asham's suspension is automatic with the match penalty. So is Adams, with an instigator assessed in the last five minutes. Bylsma will also be getting fined for that.

Neal's punishment is the interesting one.
- Jsaquella

as much as i want blood for neal, i'm at the point, where i want him out of the game on wednesday if not the rest, so he has zero chance of helping his team come back.

he has to be.
- hammarby31

I'd be willing to bet he gets the Rome or Cooke suspension.

“You ask the best player in the world, Sidney Crosby, what they were thinking and he said 'that’s playoff hockey.' For me, that’s not playoff hockey, it’s dangerous hockey. It’s trying to hurt some people out there."

-Scott Hartnell

as much as i want blood for neal, i'm at the point, where i want him out of the game on wednesday if not the rest, so he has zero chance of helping his team come back.
- hammarby31

This. Go ahead and take selfish runs at players. Hurt your chances of a comeback. Though the Flyers are the only team to complete it, 3 times a team has come from 3-0 to tie the series in the last 2 years. It isn't that unprecedented anymore... unless you hurt your team with selfishness

I saw the tweet reporting the two hearings for Neal but nothing about it being a phone hearing. Does someone have more information about that or are we just assuming its phone and not in person?

I'd be surprised if Asham isn't done for at least the rest of this series.
- Jsaquella

If he is I'd be really impressed.

he has to be.
- hammarby31

I'm sure most remember the Flyers / Ottawa brawl from several years ago. Each player taking care of things on the ice, one on one, straight up. Recchi. Patrick Sharp if memory serves. All straight up.

I'll eat my shoes and post on youtube if the Penguins act in a similar way.

Cheap shots. Third men in.

Every team has a bad episode, boarding, etc. But this goes way beyond.