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hit 'em
San Jose Sharks
Location: CA
Joined: 02.03.2007

Apr 17 @ 11:34 PM ET
I've despised Raffi Torres since the 2006 playoffs when he took a cheap shot elbowing Milan Michalek squarely in the face. No penalty.

I just watched the entire sequence and have changed my post - Torres clearly targeted Hossa from over 20 feet... throw the book at him
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:36 PM ET
After all those suspensions handed out today, you know they'll want to say "Stop this you crazy bastards." I've never seen so many suspensions/fines in one round.
- AdamFrench


Clearly they should have announced the Neal/Asham suspensions before the players hit the ice today. Set the precident before crap like this had a chance to go down
HawksHype
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.08.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
This should help, Hossa has left Northwestern Memorial Hospital.
- AdamFrench


It helps a bit. I've explained this to some friends. It's not the hit that upsets me. It's hockey. IMO, Torres makes that hit in every game. It's the news this afternoon about Shaw's suspension, Shanahan's inconsistency that is getting me upset. I'm getting upset thinking about what he is going to do.... or not going to do in that case. We'll see... a couple beers, some great, physical hockey... my blood boils!
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:37 PM ET
Cooke his ass. By that I mean coming close to 20.
Bones
Joined: 12.06.2007

Apr 17 @ 11:39 PM ET
He left his feet a bit that is the issue compared to other cheap sh$$ going on. Damage done by force of hit nothing else. Let Shanny deal with it. Chill.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 17 @ 11:42 PM ET
Nice write up Adam, and a honest assesment of the situation.

With the hit, Torres leaving his feat, and the fact Hossa was carried off in a stretcher and Torres is a repeat offender, I'm thinking 10 games and the max fine.
sTEALtooth
San Jose Sharks
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 03.26.2007

Apr 17 @ 11:43 PM ET
It will never happen but if the NHL were truly serious about eliminating head-shots they would institute a game-for-a-game: you are eligible to return when the player you injured is medically cleared.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:44 PM ET
AND The Blackhawks get a minor penalty on the play . The ref's have been (frank)ing terrible again. At the end of the 2nd there was pushing and shoving and Toews was the only one penalized. I was telling all of the NHL needs Phoenix to win conspiracy theorist to shut up but Jesus Christ tonight has been terrible.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:44 PM ET
This guy needs to be punished ...send him to play for the Leafs for the remainder of his career.
- keatondixon

Too bad the hit occurred in the US. Our constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
Desert_Dog
Location: Peoria, AZ
Joined: 03.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:44 PM ET
Just something to ponder. I wonder if the game itself has morphed out of the physical confines it plays in (200 X 85 sheet of ice). The players today are huge compared to the 60's players. Equipment is like body armor. There is no fear factor with these guys anymore.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:46 PM ET
Too bad the hit occurred in the US. Our constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
- NewToHockey


Yes, but here in Canada, Hossa would not receive a $5000 bill for his trip to hospital tonight. Constitution? Constischmution!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:46 PM ET
It will never happen but if the NHL were truly serious about eliminating head-shots they would institute a game-for-a-game: you are eligible to return when the player you injured is medically cleared.
- sTEALtooth

That could and probably would lead to some really silly things man. What about clean hits where a player is hurt? Do they go back on the tape to see hits and then give penalties in hindsight?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:48 PM ET
Just something to ponder. I wonder if the game itself has morphed out of the physical confines it plays in (200 X 85 sheet of ice). The players today are huge compared to the 60's players. Equipment is like body armor. There is no fear factor with these guys anymore.
- Desert_Dog


That would just give them more speed. Bigger crashes at Bristol or Talladega?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:49 PM ET
AND The Blackhawks get a minor penalty on the play . The ref's have been (frank)ing terrible again. At the end of the 2nd there was pushing and shoving and Toews was the only one penalized. I was telling all of the NHL needs Phoenix to win conspiracy theorist to shut up but Jesus Christ tonight has been terrible.
- mrpaulish

To be fair to the refs what the ysaw was Bollig attacking Torres randomly over a "clean hit," in that situation it's understandable for them to call the extra of him.
Desert_Dog
Location: Peoria, AZ
Joined: 03.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:50 PM ET
That would just give them more speed. Bigger crashes at Bristol or Talladega?
- Leafland


That's it. Give the players restrictor plates.
sTEALtooth
San Jose Sharks
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 03.26.2007

Apr 17 @ 11:51 PM ET
That could and probably would lead to some really silly things man. What about clean hits where a player is hurt? Do they go back on the tape to see hits and then give penalties in hindsight?
- AdamFrench


To clarify, when a player is being reviewed for suspension, not on any play resulting in injury.

Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:52 PM ET
That's it. Give the players restrictor plates.
- Desert_Dog


Tube skates
Desert_Dog
Location: Peoria, AZ
Joined: 03.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 11:52 PM ET
Tube skates
- Leafland


Bob skates, double runners.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:54 PM ET
That could and probably would lead to some really silly things man. What about clean hits where a player is hurt? Do they go back on the tape to see hits and then give penalties in hindsight?
- AdamFrench


Make the fines more representative of what the outcome of a bad check can actually be. $2500 dollars is nothing to these guys; Give them $50,000 fines instead and they start to take notice.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:54 PM ET
Bob skates, double runners.
- Desert_Dog


Even better
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:55 PM ET
Make the fines more representative of what the outcome of a bad check can actually be. $2500 dollars is nothing to these guys; Give them $50,000 fines instead and they start to take notice.
- lumlums


That will undoubtedly be addressed in the new CBA.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:56 PM ET
Make the fines more representative of what the outcome of a bad check can actually be. $2500 dollars is nothing to these guys; Give them $50,000 fines instead and they start to take notice.
- lumlums

The players association would cause a 7 year lockout before that
marty11
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 01.05.2010

Apr 18 @ 12:00 AM ET
I would like to see him gone for the remainder of the playoffs, plus 10 games next season. He just doesn't seem to care that he is reckless.

He will probably get something like 4 games though.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Apr 18 @ 12:07 AM ET
I'm looking to expand my narrow view of hockey, i believe i have just read the answer.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Apr 18 @ 12:07 AM ET
The players association would cause a 7 year lockout before that
- AdamFrench

Cuts in on their union dues, (frank) that.
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