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FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
John, I enjoy your blogs ... but seriously, everything after Here’s my take on Sunday's fiasco after watching the tape comes across as VERY whiny. Listing all the missed penalties on the Flyers? If I didn't see the game, and only went by your diatribe, I would have thought the Flyers were given the game by the refs. And then you stop after recapping the 1st period? huh?

As far as tonight, I don't think it'll be as crazy as game 3 ... but it still will get wild and wooly. Perhaps a 5 - 4 final, with special teams deciding the game. Unfortunately.

The Flyers would be smart to close out this thing tonight. Should the Pens win, and get an additional bump with Neal returning for game 5, this could quickly be back here for a game 6 before the Flyers know what hit them.


ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Adam Proteau ‏ @Proteautype


Brian Burke says outrage over NHL carnage is "like people complaining about the rain at Woodstock". Brian, you're part of the problem.


---
Here. Here.

- akane13



It's funny that the GM of the Leafs makes a comment on the playoffs. Is Wang up next?
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Blessings could be any of the following

-not giving up a touchdown
-holding a lead for more than a shift
-getting something other than a secondary assist from #71
-going a page on this thread without being trolled from a team leading a series 3-0
-proper NHL punishments
-my sheetz MTO being made correctly for the 1st time this week.

I hold zero hope for most of these.

- ryman1566


you need wawa, thats the problem
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
John Toperzer: GAMEDAY! Pens on the Brink, down 3-0
Pittsburgh enters Wednesday's contest with a makeshift lineup after injuries and suspensions leave team shorthanded.

- the-mitch-wilsons

so you write like 15 graphs on the first period

analyzing every little play - through black and yellow glasses - and then just decide to stop - without even touching on all the 3rd period crap?


literally unbelievable
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 12:43 PM ET
if they give nhl team one amnesty contract like the nba did, would his be it?
- flyershockey


Prior to the last couple weeks, it didn't seem likely. Now, with his incredibly poor play in the playoffs combined with his uneven regular season play, it's probably inevitable, particularly since there are guys on entry level deals ready to step in and play steady minutes in his place
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Apr 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
so you write like 15 graphs on the first period

analyzing every little play - through black and yellow glasses - and then just decide to stop - without even touching on all the 3rd period crap?


literally unbelievable

- Crimsoninja

Awesome
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:45 PM ET
Awesome
- dbell646

do you not find that even a bit odd?
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Apr 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
Its not a topic that I like, but I bit and put some thoughts to paper:

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...er_id=25345&post_id=13345

- Gunner Staal

Nice write-up! I tried to comment on it but for some reason it came up blank so Ill repost some of my thoughts here.
It seems what the NHL is doing is the worst of both worlds. The players have been partially handcuffed from taking matters into their own hands and policing the game meanwhile the refs/league who have taken over the policing of the game arent doing enough. When the NFL started to implement rules protecting the QB, one used to be able to make the point that if they just allowed a certain amount of policing by the players then it wouldnt be such an issue.
Think a 250lb linebacker or smaller DB wants to lay a cheap shot on Tom Brady if he has to worry about a 300lb+ offensive lineman picking him up and rag-dolling him for his actions? Anybody think that if Gary Roberts was a Flyer that he would have allowed Neal to run around hitting Giroux and Couturier? Roberts wouldnt have given Neal a choice, gloves would have been off and fists would be getting thrown. Given the repeated ineptitude the NHl has shown in doling out punishment, I wouldnt mind seeing a return to players policing the game. There is no denying it was a more effective system, albeit flawed in its own right.
Sorry for the long post.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
do you not find that even a bit odd?
- Crimsoninja



Did you honestly expect something extolling the slightly less poor and uneven play of the Flyers here? I'm sure Meltzer has plenty of Flyers porn for you to get off on.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
you need wawa, thats the problem
- flyershockey


Eh People out this way are crazy about wawas and people back west are crazy about sheetz. I like both now that I have experienced both.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
Nice write-up! I tried to comment on it but for some reason it came up blank so Ill repost some of my thoughts here.
It seems what the NHL is doing is the worst of both worlds. The players have been partially handcuffed from taking matters into their own hands and policing the game meanwhile the refs/league who have taken over the policing of the game arent doing enough. When the NFL started to implement rules protecting the QB, one used to be able to make the point that if they just allowed a certain amount of policing by the players then it wouldnt be such an issue.
Think a 250lb linebacker or smaller DB wants to lay a cheap shot on Tom Brady if he has to worry about a 300lb+ offensive lineman picking him up and rag-dolling him for his actions? Anybody think that if Gary Roberts was a Flyer that he would have allowed Neal to run around hitting Giroux and Couturier? Roberts wouldnt have given Neal a choice, gloves would have been off and fists would be getting thrown. Given the repeated ineptitude the NHl has shown in doling out punishment, I wouldnt mind seeing a return to players policing the game. There is no denying it was a more effective system, albeit flawed in its own right.
Sorry for the long post.

- Rawdog9755



Like your mind when you try to remember what's her name?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
Did you honestly expect something extolling the slightly less poor and uneven play of the Flyers here? I'm sure Meltzer has plenty of Flyers porn for you to get off on.
- akane13

ok, i'll even discount my opinion that the analysis was skewed. but to go over the entire 1st period with a fine-toothed comb - and then just quit before doing so with the rest of the game is bizarre and pathetic, imo
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
Like your mind when you try to remember what's her name?
- akane13


Smartphone reminders are a wonderful thing. . .
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 12:52 PM ET
ok, i'll even discount my opinion that the analysis was skewed. but to go over the entire 1st period with a fine-toothed comb - and then just quit before doing so with the rest of the game is bizarre and pathetic, imo
- Crimsoninja



What was the most crucial point in the game? The first period. Everything that happened after was not really worth dissecting. That's not to suggest in anyway that the stupidity of Asham and Neal and the nonsense on display in the 3rd pd isn't worthy of discussion, but the game was decided by then so irrelevant to the outcome. Besides...That topic was beat to death here yesterday.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
What was the most crucial point in the game? The first period. Everything that happened after was not really worth dissecting. That's not to suggest in anyway that the stupidity of Asham and Neal and the nonsense on display in the 3rd pd is worthy of discussion, but the game was decided by then so irrelevant to the outcome. Besides...That topic was beat to death here yesterday.
- akane13

Yeah, beat to death by posters. Would've been nice to see the view from the blogger - especially after he dissects the entire first period.

but i guess that's too much to ask
Francois Leroux
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: New Castle, DE
Joined: 07.10.2009

Apr 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
"Defenseman Paul Martin is also expected to miss Wednesday’s game with an undisclosed injury."

Best news I've read all year.
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
Don't the Flyers have two blogs that theirfans can go spew their hatred in. Go, go away. We get it you don't like the Penguins, or the opinions of Penguin fans/bloggers, or anything to do with Penguins. Nothing that has been posted by a Flyers fan in the last 50+ hours has been worth anything, it's all been pointless whining about how dirty the Penguins are.

With that off my chest, I won't be upset if the Penguins season ends tonight. They been out played/coached at every facet of the game and don't deserve to win. Unless they have spent the last two days watching video and figuring out how to respond to Philly when they wake up it won't be much different than the previous three games.
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yeah, beat to death by posters. Would've been nice to see the view from the blogger - especially after he dissects the entire first period.

but i guess that's too much to ask

- Crimsoninja



Well when you get a blog someday, we could dissect yours if you would like
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
so you write like 15 graphs on the first period

analyzing every little play - through black and yellow glasses - and then just decide to stop - without even touching on all the 3rd period crap?


literally unbelievable

- Crimsoninja


I love when people actually seek out stuff to be angered about... It's like people just want something to complain about or want to be unhappy.

It reminds me of democrats listening to Rush or Hannity, just to complain about what they say.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
I love when people actually seek out stuff to be angered about... It's like people just want something to complain about or want to be unhappy.

It reminds me of democrats listening to Rush or Hannity, just to complain about what they say.

- rival22

i was actually glad to see he was breaking down the game and I was reading with interest

and then it just stops

just saying i find that odd
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Apr 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
I love when people actually seek out stuff to be angered about... It's like people just want something to complain about or want to be unhappy.

It reminds me of democrats listening to Rush or Hannity, just to complain about what they say.

- rival22


He wants to be able to take Johns view of what occured and force his own opinion upon it.

I can tell you what his opinion will be. "Everything the Penguins did was dirty and bush league, they whined, headhunted, attempted to murder, sodomize and corrupt the Flyers. The Flyers on the other had were the Paragon of Right, they are so virginal and pure that it hurts to look at their blinding white aura."
ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Let's Go Pens, PA
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
Sorry, I can’t take any more of this game. It was a disgrace on so many levels there’s no point in replaying it any longer. Onto the Game 4 preview.



That would be why he quit. Kinda the way alot of us feel about it. Purge and move on
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
He wants to be able to take Johns view of what occured and force his own opinion upon it.

I can tell you what his opinion will be. "Everything the Penguins did was dirty and bush league, they whined, headhunted, attempted to murder, sodomize and corrupt the Flyers. The Flyers on the other had were the Paragon of Right, they are so virginal and pure that it hurts to look at their blinding white aura."

- Ben37

i've been in here ripping the moronic Flyers trolls the last few days

despise homers more than anything


i guess pointing out that an uncompleted game analysis is bizarre makes me a troll though.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Apr 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
Yeah, beat to death by posters. Would've been nice to see the view from the blogger - especially after he dissects the entire first period.

but i guess that's too much to ask

- Crimsoninja



like the reviewer who pans a book because the author didn't write the one they wanted to read


undoubtedly, you do not need a blogger's take on events to form your own opinion.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
Sorry, I can’t take any more of this game. It was a disgrace on so many levels there’s no point in replaying it any longer. Onto the Game 4 preview.



That would be why he quit. Kinda the way alot of us feel about it. Purge and move on

- ryman1566


Truth be told, none of the game deserved in-depth analysis. It was a poop show almost from the first drop of the puck.
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