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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:58 AM ET
I heard that!

8 goals in 7 games! The offense needs to score a couple of goals. The Goalie can not win without offensive support.

- ggunky


He gave up 20 goals in the Final vs Boston. Had two shutouts, but also allowed 8 goals in game 3.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:58 AM ET
The news on both Meszaros and Grossmann is encouraging. Also very important in this week of rest and recuperation is the healing of Bryzgalov's hoof-and any other injury the goalie may have.

It's also incredibly hard not to be inspired and impressed with Kimmo Timonen and just how much of a warrior he is.

In terms of matchups, I continue to simply not care who they face. I'm not going sit here and hope that they magically avoid somebody, even though I know that Florida or New Jersey are a better matchup on paper than the Rangers. I fully subscribe to the "Be Careful What Ya Wish for "....look at 2010. I'm sure that Pittsburgh was happy seeing the Canadiens beat the Capitals in round one.

They were not happy to see the Habs send them home in round two. The matchups are important, but unless teams perform on the ice, all the paper analysis in the world doesn't matter. Two weeks ago, the hockey world was certain that Pittsburgh and Vancouver would be headed to round two and on a collision course in the Final.

How'd that work out. Sure on paper, Flyers vs Ottawa is better than Flyers vs Boston. But what if Anderson plays out of his mind?

- Jsaquella


Many want the easy path to the final but I personally want the most exciting. I want to be entertained as we move forward. In my mind the team to beat of the remaining are the Philadelphia Flyers. Would I like the avoid teams like the Boston Bruins and New York Rangers? of course. Do I care who we face? Of course not. I have a full vote of confidence in this team.

With this said, which Scenario does everyone want the most?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:59 AM ET

According to TSN's James Duthie, sources say that Roberto Luongo will submit a list of teams to the Vancouver Canuncks that he would be willing to accept a trade to.

- stveshdy


I think his cap hit is 5M+, but what's the cash outlay per year?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
Kypreos said this morning that Luongo has asked to be traded, not just submitted a list.
- Jsaquella


I would be willing to bet that Vancouver has no interest in trading him to an Western Conference team, So the most likely canidates are Toronto, New Jersey, Washington, and Tampa... with an outside at a return to Florida.

As a Flyers fan which team do you want to see him go to least? To me it's Washington. I think they are 1 great goalie from being a great team again. Not to mention that if re-alignment ever does happen, we will likely be matched with Washington in one way or another. New Jersey would be real bad news too, though not as much because I dont think they are a good team missing a goalie, I think they are just an average team and with what they might have to give up to get him, could make them worse...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
Did he say it on twitter? I cant find the tweet
- flyers4487

Nick Kypreos ‏ @RealKyper
#SNPlayoffs #Canucks Luongo asks for trade. Van didn't even need to ask him to waive NTC. He tells them himself in exit meeting he wants out
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
I would be willing to bet that Vancouver has now interest in trading him to an Western Conference team, So the most likely canidates are Toronto, New Jersey, Washington, and Tampa... with an outside at a return to Florida.

As a Flyers fan which team do you want to see him go to least? To me it's Washington. I think they are 1 great goalie from being a great team again. Not to mention that if re-alignment ever does happen, we will likely be matched with Washington in one way or another. New Jersey would be real bad news too, though not as much because I dont think they are a good team missing a goalie, I think they are just an average team and with what they might have to give up to get him, could make them worse...

- RooNosHockey


Washington has two good young goalies, no reason to trade for a guy with 8 years left on his deal. I'd be most worried if he goes to the Devils.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
He gave up 20 goals in the Final vs Boston. Had two shutouts, but also allowed 8 goals in game 3.
- Jsaquella





Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
regardless, he has a history of giving up bad goals at crucial moments. he's good, not great.
- isaiah520


Hmm, sounds familiar?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
Not sure how that makes sense for Columbus.
- bradleyc4

CLB would need to get more, no doubt, but they've needed a goalie forever like another team we like...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:02 AM ET
Many want the easy path to the final but I personally want the most exciting. I want to be entertained as we move forward. In my mind the team to beat of the remaining are the Philadelphia Flyers. Would I like the avoid teams like the Boston Bruins and New York Rangers? of course. Do I care who we face? Of course not. I have a full vote of confidence in this team.

With this said, which Scenario does everyone want the most?

- roenick97


I don't even care who they play, just want them to win. I'm not going to be sitting at the parade and saying, "Well, they only had to beat Wasington and Florida to get out of the East"
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:03 AM ET
Hmm, sounds familiar?
- bradleyc4

kinda like a 25 yr legacy of familiarity
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:03 AM ET
I think his cap hit is 5M+, but what's the cash outlay per year?
- Scoob


$6.7 the next six years, then a drop to $3.3, then $1.6, then the final two years at $1 million.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
I would be willing to bet that Vancouver has now interest in trading him to an Western Conference team,
- RooNosHockey



They should want to trade him in the West. That way they could win a series.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
I don't even care who they play, just want them to win. I'm not going to be sitting at the parade and saying, "Well, they only had to beat Wasington and Florida to get out of the East"
- Jsaquella

like you said, I'm glad that we don't face the prospect of having to get thru BOS and NYR to play for the cup.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
CLB would need to get more, no doubt, but they've needed a goalie forever like another team we like...
- isaiah520


There will be a lot to choose from in terms of acquiring a goaltender. Why lock yourself into that contract with a 33-year-old?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
I think his cap hit is 5M+, but what's the cash outlay per year?
- Scoob

Pretty bad, $6,714,000 every season until 2018-19, drops to ~$3.3m after that.

EDIT: Leight
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
There will be a lot to choose from in terms of acquiring a goaltender. Why lock yourself into that contract with a 33-year-old?
- bradleyc4

because the owner has a tantrum?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:05 AM ET
New Jersey would be real bad news too, though not as much because I dont think they are a good team missing a goalie, I think they are just an average team and with what they might have to give up to get him, could make them worse...
- RooNosHockey


They may not even be able to afford Parise this summer.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:06 AM ET
Normally to be a jerk I would say it's just you, but......
- Deasr1

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:06 AM ET
because the owner has a tantrum?
- isaiah520


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:07 AM ET
CLB would need to get more, no doubt, but they've needed a goalie forever like another team we like...
- isaiah520

I think you may be forgetting the biggest issue. Why the hell would Luongo want to go to Columbus when it's common knowledge they're trying to trade the only great player they have in Nash? Lou to the Leafs makes the most sense to me. Tampa needs him the most but I ultimately don't think they're going to pony up.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:07 AM ET
$6.7 the next six years, then a drop to $3.3, then $1.6, then the final two years at $1 million.
- bradleyc4


Ouch. That right there may take cash-strapped NJ out of the running.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:08 AM ET
I don't even care who they play, just want them to win. I'm not going to be sitting at the parade and saying, "Well, they only had to beat Wasington and Florida to get out of the East"
- Jsaquella

I have dreamed about that day all my life... I actually wrote a 5 page paper in college describing that day in precise detail. The prompt was short of curing cancer, or world hunger, or anything on that level if you had one wish what would it be. My wish was for the flyers to win the cup and to experience a parade rivaling the ones in the 70s

Actually got an A for it too.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:09 AM ET
Washington has two good young goalies, no reason to trade for a guy with 8 years left on his deal. I'd be most worried if he goes to the Devils.
- Jsaquella


They do have to young average goalies. Holtby is definately having a great playoffs, but neither of them put together is Loungo. You include Nueverth in the trade with a couple of picks.... And then Washington becomes one of the most dangerous teams again.

I would say New Jersey would be 3rd on my list of teams I dont want him to go to... I would also hate to see what he could do in Tampa. That offense with Loungo shutting the door...scary.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:09 AM ET
$6.7 the next six years, then a drop to $3.3, then $1.6, then the final two years at $1 million.
- bradleyc4

Im sure he would love the pressure in Ohio.. all he has to do is make the playoffs and they will treat him like a god.
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