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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:11 AM ET
Ouch. That right there may take cash-strapped NJ out of the running.
- Scoob


Dale Tallon is licking his chops.

Teams with a need and a remote chance at landing Lu (imo):

Panthers
Leafs
Sharks
Lightning
Blackhawks
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:11 AM ET
I don't even care who they play, just want them to win. I'm not going to be sitting at the parade and saying, "Well, they only had to beat Wasington and Florida to get out of the East"
- Jsaquella

Pittsburgh was our conference finals... Next round can be the quarter finals for us, where we get matched with a team that is lower in the standings, and the 3rd round, will be our Semi-finals.... No shame in saying we had to beat the favorites to win the cup, on the way to winning the cup.
12,9 and 22
Joined: 01.02.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:18 AM ET
I don't even care who they play, just want them to win. I'm not going to be sitting at the parade and saying, "Well, they only had to beat Wasington and Florida to get out of the East"
- Jsaquella

Washington is going to be a very tough out for anybody.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
Dale Tallon is licking his chops.

Teams with a need and a remote chance at landing Lu (imo):

Panthers
Leafs
Sharks
Lightning
Blackhawks

- bradleyc4


I dont see why Washington isn't ont that list. Remember, Loungo has to want to play there, and Vancouver will want to trade them there. I cant see Vancouver trading Loungo to Chicago or San Jose... And I cant see Loungo really wanting to go back to the Panthers. If he did enjoy his time in Florida, why not go to the better team, the lightning.

I do think Loungo would fit best in Washington.... The big city, without the killer media like Canadien cities, NY or Philly.

One thing is for sure... Ek is going to get his money's worth this off-season with Loungo and Nash. Bet you season ticket prices are about to go up...
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 26 @ 10:23 AM ET

- phi1671

12,9 and 22
Joined: 01.02.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
I think you may be forgetting the biggest issue. Why the hell would Luongo want to go to Columbus when it's common knowledge they're trying to trade the only great player they have in Nash? Lou to the Leafs makes the most sense to me. Tampa needs him the most but I ultimately don't think they're going to pony up.
- hereticpride

Pony up what? Gillis will be hard pressed to get anything of value for Luongo despite his status as one of the better goalies in the league. This is a classic example for a possible change in the cba which allows a team to pay part of a player's salary. On second thought, it would be foolish for a gm to take on that contract not knowing what the cba will be.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:26 AM ET
I dont see why Washington isn't ont that list. Remember, Loungo has to want to play there, and Vancouver will want to trade them there. I cant see Vancouver trading Loungo to Chicago or San Jose... And I cant see Loungo really wanting to go back to the Panthers. If he did enjoy his time in Florida, why not go to the better team, the lightning.

I do think Loungo would fit best in Washington.... The big city, without the killer media like Canadien cities, NY or Philly.

One thing is for sure... Ek is going to get his money's worth this off-season with Loungo and Nash. Bet you season ticket prices are about to go up...

- RooNosHockey

their rookie goaltender just outplayed the vezina/connsmythe winner

if i was a caps fan id be pissed if they took on luongo's contract
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:26 AM ET
I dont see why Washington isn't ont that list. Remember, Loungo has to want to play there, and Vancouver will want to trade them there. I cant see Vancouver trading Loungo to Chicago or San Jose... And I cant see Loungo really wanting to go back to the Panthers. If he did enjoy his time in Florida, why not go to the better team, the lightning.

I do think Loungo would fit best in Washington.... The big city, without the killer media like Canadien cities, NY or Philly.

One thing is for sure... Ek is going to get his money's worth this off-season with Loungo and Nash. Bet you season ticket prices are about to go up...

- RooNosHockey

Holtby.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:27 AM ET
CLB would need to get more, no doubt, but they've needed a goalie forever like another team we like...
- isaiah520


Loungo would never waive to go to Columbus, but I could see a 3 way trade here with Loungo going to Toronto, and Toronto's package going to Columbus for Nash. Vancouver might have to throw in some extra. Maybe some picks. Columbus already has a bunch in the next 2 years. Maybe just go full rebuild. Get Kadri, Schenn, Van1, Tor1.... Interesting... I might just start watching Columbus hockey with all the talent coming out that way....
12,9 and 22
Joined: 01.02.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:28 AM ET
I dont see why Washington isn't ont that list. Remember, Loungo has to want to play there, and Vancouver will want to trade them there. I cant see Vancouver trading Loungo to Chicago or San Jose... And I cant see Loungo really wanting to go back to the Panthers. If he did enjoy his time in Florida, why not go to the better team, the lightning.

I do think Loungo would fit best in Washington.... The big city, without the killer media like Canadien cities, NY or Philly.

One thing is for sure... Ek is going to get his money's worth this off-season with Loungo and Nash. Bet you season ticket prices are about to go up...

- RooNosHockey

Is it better to ride pine on a contender or be a starter anywhere? Personally, I'd rather play. The difference from worst to first is not that big. A few bold moves that pay off can turn a non-playoff team into a contender.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:29 AM ET
their rookie goaltender just outplayed the vezina/connsmythe winner
- Crimsoninja


He's hot right now. I don't think it's sustainable.
Jack-Meoff
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
as flyers fans...would you choose luongo or bryz?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
He's hot right now. I don't think it's sustainable.
- Scoob


But if they add Luongo, it's basically the end of Holtby and Neuvirth there.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
He's hot right now. I don't think it's sustainable.
- Scoob

just a gut feeling, scoob?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
as flyers fans...would you choose luongo or bryz?
- Jack-Meoff

Bryz and if this is going to be the discussion of the day then I'll just pick up my coat and see you guys tomorrow.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
They do have to young average goalies. Holtby is definately having a great playoffs, but neither of them put together is Loungo. You include Nueverth in the trade with a couple of picks.... And then Washington becomes one of the most dangerous teams again.

I would say New Jersey would be 3rd on my list of teams I dont want him to go to... I would also hate to see what he could do in Tampa. That offense with Loungo shutting the door...scary.

- RooNosHockey



Luongo wasn't what he is now when he was young either. If you beleive in your young goalies, you let them develop. Washington is obviously a dangerous team already with Holtby. If I'm them, I'm not looking to take on that contract.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
Washington is going to be a very tough out for anybody.
- 12,9 and 22


If they play like they did against Boston, sure.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:33 AM ET
Pittsburgh was our conference finals... Next round can be the quarter finals for us, where we get matched with a team that is lower in the standings, and the 3rd round, will be our Semi-finals.... No shame in saying we had to beat the favorites to win the cup, on the way to winning the cup.
- RooNosHockey


No, Pittsburgh was the first round. Thinking like that will result in an early summer.
12,9 and 22
Joined: 01.02.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
He's hot right now. I don't think it's sustainable.
- Scoob

Were you a goalie? In the WRD street hockey league?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:35 AM ET
Pony up what? Gillis will be hard pressed to get anything of value for Luongo despite his status as one of the better goalies in the league. This is a classic example for a possible change in the cba which allows a team to pay part of a player's salary. On second thought, it would be foolish for a gm to take on that contract not knowing what the cba will be.
- 12,9 and 22


Good goalies are the rarest breed in this sport. Gillis will still get a very good package for him, because the options for other teams is Vokoun or Clemmensen. I can tell you one thing. Having Loungo on the market just killed the trade market for Bernier and company. He is proven and established. His contract isn't like 7 or 8 million a year in cap hit... Its a reasonable 5.3 million... Sure its a long contract, but that just means you dont have to renegotiate with him. And it appears that when he wont be "the man" then he is willing to move on... so there is always the possibility of trading him again later in the contract to a team that needs the cap hit without paying the salary. Or there may be an amnesty clause later....

When a goalie the calibur of Loungo comes on the market, I dont think his contract is going to have much of a factor on his value. Teams will be bidding the highest price for him. If he was UFA, someone would be offereing him just about the same numbers they are going to be paying him anyway...
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
Dale Tallon is licking his chops.

Teams with a need and a remote chance at landing Lu (imo):

Panthers
Leafs
Sharks
Lightning
Blackhawks

- bradleyc4

FLA has markstrom so I doubt that one
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:36 AM ET
Pittsburgh was our conference finals... Next round can be the quarter finals for us, where we get matched with a team that is lower in the standings, and the 3rd round, will be our Semi-finals.... No shame in saying we had to beat the favorites to win the cup, on the way to winning the cup.
- RooNosHockey



I sure hope the Flyers as a team aren't thinking that the Pens were the Conference Final. They have a long haul in front of them.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 10:36 AM ET

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...l-get-traded-this-summer/

It is also being reported that Thomas may be on the trade block.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
But if they add Luongo, it's basically the end of Holtby and Neuvirth there.
- Jsaquella


Kind of like what happened to Bob here... But it didn't stop the Flyers...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Good goalies are the rarest breed in this sport. Gillis will still get a very good package for him, because the options for other teams is Vokoun or Clemmensen. I can tell you one thing. Having Loungo on the market just killed the trade market for Bernier and company. He is proven and established. His contract isn't like 7 or 8 million a year in cap hit... Its a reasonable 5.3 million... Sure its a long contract, but that just means you dont have to renegotiate with him. And it appears that when he wont be "the man" then he is willing to move on... so there is always the possibility of trading him again later in the contract to a team that needs the cap hit without paying the salary. Or there may be an amnesty clause later....

When a goalie the calibur of Loungo comes on the market, I dont think his contract is going to have much of a factor on his value. Teams will be bidding the highest price for him. If he was UFA, someone would be offereing him just about the same numbers they are going to be paying him anyway...

- RooNosHockey



The question is, does Luongo wish for his NMC to remain in tact as part of his being willing to waive it now.
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