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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:47 AM ET
I bet the piece of used chewing gum on the street in front of my house it was Bernie.
- JoeRussomanno


High stakes bet .

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
If we can win game 2, I think NJ has to start to become more aggressive. I noticed how CLarkson wanted no part of Simmonds. They probably saw how the Flyers fed off the fights etc in the Pens series and just wanted to let sleeping dogs lie. If we still win, they are going to have to switch it up.
- Hextall271


That, and Simmonds owned him last time they fought...

FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
High stakes bet .
- bmeltzer


bill,

if meszaros were to return later in the series (or later in the playoffs), who do you think would sit? lilja or gus? or would it depend upon the opponent?
Shephardbd
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.16.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:57 AM ET
Kimmo is Ironman, that dude is amazing! He should get his own Playoff shirt.
- jtb3rd


This is my favorite

http://www.phillyphaithfu...com/KIMMO-TIMO_p_187.html
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 30 @ 10:57 AM ET
So about that amnesty clause on Briere..(...cough)
- PT21


He'd still be my choice.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
He'd still be my choice.
- bradleyc4


would the flyers be able to exercise the clause on him and then immediately resign him to a contract identical to what was his "amnestied" remaining contract just to lower the cap hit?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
no surprise that matty carle makes a smart pinch and gets rewarded with yet another assist on an OT winner.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 11:01 AM ET
would the flyers be able to exercise the clause on him and then immediately resign him to a contract identical to what was his "amnestied" remaining contract just to lower the cap hit?
- FlyerMike18


i believe the nba rule is that if you amnesty a dude, you cannot re-sign him in the same league year.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:02 AM ET
i believe the nba rule is that if you amnesty a dude, you cannot re-sign him in the same league year.
- OrangeBlack27


(frank)in bs
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:03 AM ET
no surprise that matty carle makes a smart pinch and gets rewarded with yet another assist on an OT winner.
- OrangeBlack27


nonsense dude is a turd
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:04 AM ET
no surprise that matty carle makes a smart pinch and gets rewarded with yet another assist on an OT winner.
- OrangeBlack27


ty
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:04 AM ET
So about that amnesty clause on Briere..(...cough)
- PT21



What's he's doing is huge. I was wrong in not anticipating this from him however a star burns brightest before it burns out.

With that in mind, I think Briere is without a doubt a hall of fame player, will be a huge reason why the Flyers win a cup this year, and as a fan deserves my devotion and gratitude.

All that being said makes what I said about if it even happens, an amnesty buyout a very hard choice to make. Let's keep in mind the Flyers have the team they do because they made some hard decisions last summer. I really like having Briere on the team, but his cap hit is going to be tough going forward.

So yes I have adjusted my outlook on that. I really don't have to be right all the time it's not who I am. However if he's only going to play in the playoffs then I hope he doesn't mind being a healthy scratch during the regular season.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 11:04 AM ET
He'd still be my choice.
- bradleyc4


Why? Don't like winning in the playoffs?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
High stakes bet .
- bmeltzer

Yea I don't think anyone will want to collect on that if I'm wrong
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
Why? Don't like winning in the playoffs?
- PT21


They can win without him.

Danny has a slight uptick in goals per 82 games in the playoffs, but it's negated by being even worse in his own end. He plays a more open-ice game in the playoffs and it translates to a few more goals, but also leads to just as many goals against.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:08 AM ET
They can win without him.

Danny has a slight uptick in goals per 82 games in the playoffs, but it's negated by being even worse in his own end. He plays a more open-ice game in the playoffs and it translates to a few more goals, but also leads to just as many goals against.

- bradleyc4

Where were you a few minutes ago when I needed ya
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Why? Don't like winning in the playoffs?
- PT21

I want to make something clear too, my desire to use an amnesty clause on Briere was never a hate based, evaluation. I just thought that his cap hit is too high for what he does.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:10 AM ET
i believe the nba rule is that if you amnesty a dude, you cannot re-sign him in the same league year.
- OrangeBlack27

If the cap continues to go up I'm not that worried. I think the Flyers have almost always been able to get or keep the players they really wanted.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 30 @ 11:10 AM ET
I want to make something clear too, my desire to use an amnesty clause on Briere was never a hate based, evaluation. I just thought that his cap hit is too high for what he does.
- JoeRussomanno


Yep, but there's also a huge value to what he means to the guys in the dressing room that is immeasurable.

Flyers would never do it.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 11:10 AM ET
They can win without him.

Danny has a slight uptick in goals per 82 games in the playoffs, but it's negated by being even worse in his own end. He plays a more open-ice game in the playoffs and it translates to a few more goals, but also leads to just as many goals against.

- bradleyc4


lol so tru

but actch with jvr and voracek, i don't think that line will be a liability because those two can hang onto the puck forever and jake is actually really good defensively, which has been such a beautiful surprise.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
Yep, but there's also a huge value to what he means to the guys in the dressing room that is immeasurable.

Flyers would never do it.

- bradleyc4

I can't really argue with this.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
He'd still be my choice.
- bradleyc4

I'd be more inclined to use it on Bryzgalov. I'm no Bryz hater, but I think that nine year contract is far more of a cap killer.

EDIT: Of course, this amnesty talk is still purely supposition.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
lol so tru

but actch with jvr and voracek, i don't think that line will be a liability because those two can hang onto the puck forever and jake is actually really good defensively, which has been such a beautiful surprise.

- OrangeBlack27

We have to hold onto jake, even if it means letting jagr walk.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
It seems to me that we have the current playoffs series and a nice Game 1 Victory to chew on rather than Summer worries about contracts, caps and theoretical amensty issues.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
If the cap continues to go up I'm not that worried. I think the Flyers have almost always been able to get or keep the players they really wanted.
- JoeRussomanno


the cap is rumored to be in the low 70s starting july 1. only problem is once the new CBA is agreed to late summer/early fall, it could be back down to 55 or 60.
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