So Luongo is better than Price and Price is worth Sharp or Kane, but Lu has negative worth in trade, to the buyout cost of Gomez? Dude, you're even way more out there than usual.

Besides, with the buyout cost of Gomez, Schneider would end up costing more than Luongo. If Gomez was the only offer, I'd keep Lu and trade Schneider. But this is a stupid debate to begin with.
- micah555

Yup. Simple economics dude. He has 2-3 good years left...but has a 10yr contract attached to his name.

You'll be lucky to get a solid 3rd liner for him.

Is that how all of you respond???? How bout a different opinion based on any facts or logical opinion??? " Thanks for your expert opinion" You sound as intelligent as I do. Anytime someone on this website has anything to say that Vancouver fans might not like our opinions are dismissed with sarcasm. You guys are becoming sore losers.
- sbroads24

Look, I understand you probably don't like the Canucks or their fans or Luongo, but to say he has little trade value is ridiculous. Just look up career stats. Schneider and Luongo were pretty much the whole reason the Canucks won the Presidents this year. Luongo is an upgrade on over half the league and 5.3 is not an insane number. When you come into the Canucks thread and say no one will take Luongo, you are either trolling or have no clue what you are talking about.

Nor do you keep valuable assets if you can upgrade where you really need to. Teams don't have to be eager, but they also can't afford to sit back and hope they can get someone like him for cheap. Again, the reality in the NHL for a lot of teams is that unless you win now, your job is gone. That includes all coaches and GMs, especially in markets that aren't doing well financially. With your new owner, you can't afford to miss the playoffs again for another year, not after he's actually let Regier spend money on UFAs to try and make a run. Not saying that Buffalo would trade for Luongo seeing as Miller will be good enough for the next few years and you have Enroth waiting in the wings, but that doesn't preclude other teams from doing so.
- DariusKnight

I agree but Luongo is not the only option. He is not a Free agent. This would be a huge commitment from a team to take on his contract, so if they are already making that commitment, they are also going to give up a ton to get him?? I just dont see it happening.

You know this how? How many times have you seen Lu play this year?

Him and Schneider were our two best players .Our goaltenders were our MVPs .Lu had the lions share of the games.The two of them took the team to the best record in the NHL.

33 is not old for a goalie. 6 more years will bring him to 39. Even if a team like the Leafs had him to the playoffs another 4 times ,this is still a 400% improvement over the last decade. That would be at the minimum 8 playoff games increasing TML value about 10 million dollars which happens to be 2 years of LUs salary.

I think Lu has more game than Miller and all year round I heard Miller for Kane.Yet Lu could not bring in a top 10 draft pick.


I get the impression you read a lot of headlines.
- VANTEL

....but not games 3 or 4. Fact is, when it mattered, he was on the bench.

If we go by NHL averages, Luongo's play will drop off within 3yrs (when he's 36-37). That will still leave 7yrs @ $5.3MM per year.

It's funny how a lot of nucks fans think they're in the driver's seat with this. Notwithstanding the ugly contract, you should all also consider that his list of teams he'd accept a trade to is rumoured to be no more than 9....certainly doesn't give Gillis the bargaining power.

Look, I understand you probably don't like the Canucks or their fans or Luongo, but to say he has little trade value is ridiculous. Just look up career stats. Schneider and Luongo were pretty much the whole reason the Canucks won the Presidents this year. Luongo is an upgrade on over half the league and 5.3 is not an insane number. When you come into the Canucks thread and say no one will take Luongo, you are either trolling or have no clue what you are taliking about.
- fiveandagame

I don't think this is the issue....

The issue is the unreasonable contract.

I agree but Luongo is not the only option. He is not a Free agent. This would be a huge commitment from a team to take on his contract, so if they are already making that commitment, they are also going to give up a ton to get him?? I just dont see it happening.
- sbroads24

Ok, then who of the pending UFA goalies out there would you consider better than Luongo?

Sure, Canucks fans over evaluate Luongo. Other fans under evaluate him. What's the big deal? As if fans of other teams never overrate their teams players. Your (fans of other teams) constant need to reinforce that "Luongo is only good in the regular season" along with your humiliating suggestion that he got benched because he sucked against LA this year is annoying and distracting us from building a trade package of Luongo for Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr.

People do not understand that a team like the Leafs or Oilers who have not made the playoffs in years , and Luongo is the missing piece ,once they make the playoffs his salary is paid by revenue in which they have not seen in years.

Look, I understand you probably don't like the Canucks or their fans or Luongo, but to say he has little trade value is ridiculous. Just look up career stats. Schneider and Luongo were pretty much the whole reason the Canucks won the Presidents this year. Luongo is an upgrade on over half the league and 5.3 is not an insane number. When you come into the Canucks thread and say no one will take Luongo, you are either trolling or have no clue what you are taliking about.
- fiveandagame

I actually liked the Canucks and their fans until the whole Hodgson thing. That really rubbed me the wrong way. I like Luongo. In free agency he is possibly the hottest commodity, but he is signed til he is 40 and was jut benched in the playoffs. That comes into play in trade talks dont you think???

....but not games 3 or 4. Fact is, when it mattered, he was on the bench.

If we go by NHL averages, Luongo's play will drop off within 3yrs (when he's 36-37). That will still leave 7yrs @ $5.3MM per year.

It's funny how a lot of nucks fans think they're in the driver's seat with this. Notwithstanding the ugly contract, you should all also consider that his list of teams he'd accept a trade to is rumoured to be no more than 9....certainly doesn't give Gillis the bargaining power.
- Pen15

Anyone who thinks goaltending is the reason we didn't go further in the playoffs ,does not know hockey.

....but not games 3 or 4. Fact is, when it mattered, he was on the bench.

If we go by NHL averages, Luongo's play will drop off within 3yrs (when he's 36-37). That will still leave 7yrs @ $5.3MM per year.

It's funny how a lot of nucks fans think they're in the driver's seat with this. Notwithstanding the ugly contract, you should all also consider that his list of teams he'd accept a trade to is rumoured to be no more than 9....certainly doesn't give Gillis the bargaining power.
- Pen15

It's funny how fans of other teams don't realize that no 'list' exists, it was the TSN commentators SPECULATING on which teams Luongo might agree to go to and who were potentially looking for a goalie.

I don't think this is the issue....

The issue is the unreasonable contract.
- Pen15

5.3 with an out clause in a couple of years is not unreasonable. His cap hit is less the Grabovski and Luongo is way more of an impact player.

I actually liked the Canucks and their fans until the whole Hodgson thing. That really rubbed me the wrong way. I like Luongo. In free agency he is possibly the hottest commodity, but he is signed til he is 40 and was jut benched in the playoffs. That comes into play in trade talks dont you think???
- sbroads24

If Luongo was a free agent it would cost more then 5.3 a year. Look at Bryz. I think most teams would take Lu over Bryz

I actually liked the Canucks and their fans until the whole Hodgson thing. That really rubbed me the wrong way. I like Luongo. In free agency he is possibly the hottest commodity, but he is signed til he is 40 and was jut benched in the playoffs. That comes into play in trade talks dont you think???
- sbroads24

Do you think the Canucks lost game one and two because of Luongo

Sure, Canucks fans over evaluate Luongo. Other fans under evaluate him. What's the big deal? As if fans of other teams never overrate their teams players. Your (fans of other teams) constant need to reinforce that "Luongo is only good in the regular season" along with your humiliating suggestion that he got benched because he sucked against LA this year is annoying and distracting us from building a trade package of Luongo for Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr.
- hankthetank

What's sad is that he actually played pretty well in the playoffs this year...it's the team in front of him that sucked.

Listen, I think Luongo is a great goalie...I don't think anyone on these threads is dumb enough to refute that. It's the contract that makes him undesirable.

5.3 with an out clause in a couple of years is not unreasonable. His cap hit is less the Grabovski and Luongo is way more of an impact player.
- fiveandagame

The out is a removal of the NTC...not the contract....that doesn't mean anything when he's 38 and not performing.

Ok, then who of the pending UFA goalies out there would you consider better than Luongo?
- DariusKnight

None... But after next season there are guys like Jimmy Howard, Nik backstrom, and Kari Lehtonen scheduled to be Free agents, Vokoun is there this year.... Every year 2 or 3 guys suprise teams and become number 1 goalies. Luongo is not the only thing that is going to get TB or TO, or CBJ to the playoffs, so why take on the contract + give up a ton???

It's funny how fans of other teams don't realize that no 'list' exists, it was the TSN commentators SPECULATING on which teams Luongo might agree to go to and who were potentially looking for a goalie.
- DariusKnight

Ok...let's say you have more insight than Darren Dregger...I'll play.

Even if he doesn't have the list...do you ever think CBJ will be on it?

What's sad is that he actually played pretty well in the playoffs this year...it's the team in front of him that sucked.

Listen, I think Luongo is a great goalie...I don't think anyone on these threads is dumb enough to refute that. It's the contract that makes him undesirable.
- Pen15

Which part of his contract is undesirable?

What's sad is that he actually played pretty well in the playoffs this year...it's the team in front of him that sucked.

Listen, I think Luongo is a great goalie...I don't think anyone on these threads is dumb enough to refute that. It's the contract that makes him undesirable.
- Pen15

Isn't their an out clause in a few years?
And how do you explain Bryzgalov's contract? He's a worse goalie and had proven a lot less compared to Luongo when he was signed to 9 year contract this past year. Good goalies are hot commodities and we have to look no further than last Summer to see proof of that.

Anyone who thinks goaltending is the reason we didn't go further in the playoffs ,does not know hockey.
- VANTEL

I never said that...

Confused with the point you're trying to make...

Do you think the Canucks lost game one and two because of Luongo
- VANTEL

No I dont, but he was the starter...Now he is not.... what is that called.....

Isn't their an out clause in a few years?
And how do you explain Bryzgalov's contract? He's a worse goalie and had proven a lot less compared to Luongo when he was signed to 9 year contract this past year. Good goalies are hot commodities and we have to look no further than last Summer to see proof of that.
- hankthetank

The NTC drops off in a few years. But that means nothing if his play drops off because you won't be able to trade him for a bag of pucks at that point.

EDIT: And if you ask me, I think Philly will be dreading the Bryz contract in just a few yrs.

Which part of his contract is undesirable?
- fiveandagame

The term.

The NTC drops off in a few years. But that means nothing if his play drops off because you won't be able to trade him for a bag of pucks at that point.

EDIT: And if you ask me, I think Philly will be dreading the Bryz contract in just a few yrs.
- Pen15

What does it matter if they're going to regret it? The fact is there were teams willing to blow that type of money on an unproven goalie like Bryzgalov. Teams are willing to spend on good goalies.