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TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:02 PM ET
Your assuming hes goin to retire and give up the money at 39?

Thats one of your arguments?? ... Really?

- hugefemale dog77



It's a legitimate argument, Lu will have been paid 90% of his salary by then. It is circumstantial but very realistic
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 10:03 PM ET
Just curious, do u know how long luongo's term is?

U keep harping over and over that the dollar amount isnt bad, but convienently leave out the ten years.
U understand thats the issue right? Or no?


Berniers 23.

- hugefemale dog77

Thats kind of the whole point.... I have no problem banging a really hot chick for a couple years, but if you tell me I have to commit to buying her a lot sh!t for 6 years, give her my car and by year 4 or 5 she might stop putting out, I might not be so willing to jump at the oppoutunity.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:03 PM ET
Thats the problem??? Oh i see!!
Im really not sure that canuck fans were aware why lu's value is so low.

Maybe if u explain over 5 million cap hit for ten more years for a 33 year old that the team doesnt really want anymore is not a very desirable asset.

- hugefemale dog77

Most aren't...which is why we've been going around in circles for an hr.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:04 PM ET
Thats kind of the whole point.... I have no problem banging a really hot chick for a couple years, but if you tell me I have to commit to buying her a lot sh!t for 6 years, give her my car and by year 4 or 5 she might stop putting out, I might not be so willing to jump at the oppoutunity.
- sbroads24



THIS!
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:04 PM ET
Never said I don't like Luongo's cap hit...it's the term that makes it hard to stomach

And yes...If you're asking if I'd rather sign Lindback or Bernier to a 3yr deal for as much as Luongo makes vs. his term...I'd take Lindback or Bernier.

- Pen15



Then you are going to get much less of a goalie IMO.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 10:05 PM ET
Bernier has 14 wins .

OPen your ears Luongo is 33 he will play until 39 .That is a 6 year contract 5.3 cap hit for a goalie who has played his best year in the last 3 years.

- VANTEL

You know this for sure??
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:06 PM ET
You know this for sure??
- sbroads24



Read answer below same applies to you.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 10:06 PM ET
circles.
Pointless.

Ill leave u guys to congratulate each other on the monster return you're about to get for lu.

It shouldnt be too long till we know....
VanIsle Canuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 30 @ 10:07 PM ET
Thats kind of the whole point.... I have no problem banging a really hot chick for a couple years, but if you tell me I have to commit to buying her a lot sh!t for 6 years, give her my car and by year 4 or 5 she might stop putting out, I might not be so willing to jump at the oppoutunity.
- sbroads24


Hey. You never answered my question. I'm honestly curious to know what Canucks fans did that "rubbed you the wrong way" about the Hodgson situation.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:07 PM ET
circles.
Pointless.

Ill leave u guys to congratulate each other on the monster return you're about to get for lu.

It shouldnt be too long till we know....

- hugefemale dog77


Come back and say hi to Nudge in his Canuck gear when you can't re-sign him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 10:07 PM ET
Read answer below same applies to you.
- VANTEL

you mean above? Or can you predict the future
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
Thats kind of the whole point.... I have no problem banging a really hot chick for a couple years, but if you tell me I have to commit to buying her a lot sh!t for 6 years, give her my car and by year 4 or 5 she might stop putting out, I might not be so willing to jump at the oppoutunity.
- sbroads24



I'm gonna laugh my ass off when MG pulls the ultimate Keizer Sose and trades Scheids for a kings ransom.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
Never said I don't like Luongo's cap hit...it's the term that makes it hard to stomach

And yes...If you're asking if I'd rather sign Lindback or Bernier to a 3yr deal for as much as Luongo makes vs. his term...I'd take Lindback or Bernier.

- Pen15


Bryzalov: 6 mil cap hit for 8 more years, THAT is the kind of money/term you are looking at, THAT is an untradeable contract, the deal isn't front-loaded like Luongo's and Bryzgalov doesn't have the resume/stats/pedigree of Luongo. You really think paying close to that for 3-4 years which would make the cap hit that much worse on someone who isn't even a starter like Bernier or Lindback worth it?
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
Then you are going to get much less of a goalie IMO.
- TLinden16

Maybe....maybe not.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:09 PM ET
you mean above? Or can you predict the future
- sbroads24

Were you not warned about trolling already?
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:10 PM ET
Bryzalov: 6 mil cap hit for 8 more years, THAT is the kind of money/term you are looking at, THAT is an untradeable contract, the deal isn't front-loaded like Luongo's and Bryzgalov doesn't have the resume/stats/pedigree of Luongo. You really think paying close to that for 3-4 years which would make the cap hit that much worse on someone who isn't even a starter like Bernier or Lindback worth it?
- DariusKnight

Lindback and Bernier will not be getting 6MM....book it.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
Thats kind of the whole point.... I have no problem banging a really hot chick for a couple years, but if you tell me I have to commit to buying her a lot sh!t for 6 years, give her my car and by year 4 or 5 she might stop putting out, I might not be so willing to jump at the oppoutunity.
- sbroads24


Really? So if she's got a rich father who's giving you an entry-level executive position in his Fortune 500 company (the playoffs) and in the near future when he retires, the keys to the company because you're going to marry his daughter (and to push the metaphor I'm talking about the Stanley Cup) you wouldn't jump at it?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
Maybe....maybe not.
- Pen15


Why don't you leave .Enjoy Bernier and his 4 year 16 mil contract and his 14 career wins.He will make Monster look like Johnny Bower .
TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Burnaby, BC
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
Maybe....maybe not.
- Pen15


Indeed. Both are extremely unproven. One is a giant, and the other is undersized. I'm more bullish on Bernier though.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:12 PM ET
Lindback and Bernier will not be getting 6MM....book it.
- Pen15


No, they'll likely get more, because they're the few quality starters out there and they will be looking for term and dollars and they want to get paid.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
Hey. You never answered my question. I'm honestly curious to know what Canucks fans did that "rubbed you the wrong way" about the Hodgson situation.
- VanIsle Canuck

Sorry.... Another guy posted this the other day and I kind of thought it was pretty true
Before the Hodgson trade
Vancouver fan #1- Hodgson is great
Vancouver fan 2- Next Trevor Linden- I heard a lot of comparisons
Vancouver fan 3- 70-80 point center

Now after you guys were eliminated
Van fan 1- Cancer
Van fan 2- Faked injuries
Van fan 3- Horrible money grubbing father- Locker room distraction, wont be a top 6 player.

It all sounded like sour grapes.... especially from Gillis, sounded like he was making excuses trying to sound like his hand was forced. Probably because it didnt look good to have Kassian a healthy scratch. Thought it was petty by AV and Gillis.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:13 PM ET
No, they'll likely get more, because they're the few quality starters out there and they will be looking for term and dollars and they want to get paid.
- DariusKnight

They will get 4 mil from some stupid GM. cough cough Burke cough cough
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:14 PM ET
Indeed. Both are extremely unproven. One is a giant, and the other is undersized. I'm more bullish on Bernier though.
- TLinden16

I'm kind of leaning toward Lindback personally...but mainly from a Leafs perspective.

I think he'd fit in very well with Allaire's style in Toronto.
Pen15
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
No, they'll likely get more, because they're the few quality starters out there and they will be looking for term and dollars and they want to get paid.
- DariusKnight

They're not starters...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
Sorry.... Another guy posted this the other day and I kind of thought it was pretty true
Before the Hodgson trade
Vancouver fan #1- Hodgson is great
Vancouver fan 2- Next Trevor Linden- I heard a lot of comparisons
Vancouver fan 3- 70-80 point center

Now after you guys were eliminated
Van fan 1- Cancer
Van fan 2- Faked injuries
Van fan 3- Horrible money grubbing father- Locker room distraction, wont be a top 6 player.

It all sounded like sour grapes.... especially from Gillis, sounded like he was making excuses trying to sound like his hand was forced. Probably because it didnt look good to have Kassian a healthy scratch. Thought it was petty by AV and Gillis.

- sbroads24



I like Hodgson and think he is going to be a star some day when he gets traded to the Leafs. He had 41 points this year on the Canucks .Lets see how he does on his new less talented team.
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