So this is Bozak in his prime? ............... yikes
- HankMoody89

Pretty much, yes. He's 26 years old and chances are this is as good as he gets. To me, he's got the tools to be a John Madden type player if he accepts a role on the 3rd line. But as a top-six center, he just doesn't have the talent. If he's lucky, at his absolute best, he might be a 2nd line center. But as of right now, he's getting carried.

I look to teams like Philadelphia who have an unending amount of young guys in their current lineup yet we can't even put in one young guy who can be a difference maker. I would take the weakest prospect off of philly right now who is on their big team and he'd be head and shoulders ahead of any of ours which is why I feel like our prospects can't be that good if they can't crack the lineup.

Yes you can use the excuse of oh well we're breeding em in the AHL. But not even one can make it and play strong in the NHL? I hate to use em again but Philly's young people are just as young and they are ripping up the playoffs.

The Flyers know how to draft. They picked up Carter 10th overall, Richards 21st overall and Giroux 22nd overall. They traded Carter and Richards for a 5th overall pick in Schenn, 7th overall pick in Voracek and an 8th overall pick in Couterier. They got some steals and then turned them into something even better. You don't see that with the Leafs because they gave up on a lot of their 1st round picks before they had a chance to develop. So now, they're playing catch-up and doing a bad job of it too.

I dunno, if we had legit top six forwards and they weren't making it, i'd be like Detroit and say yea well nobody is going to beat out Datsyuk etc. BUt when Tyler F'n Bozak is your #1 centerman and you can't crack it over him? Just depressing I guess.

Bozak is the #1 center by default because Burke and his predecessors made several key mistakes in drafting, developing and retaining draft picks. That's the price you pay for taking shortcuts.

Exactly, this has to be the year to let Kadri play, can't set him aside again. Will Carlyle agree, will see.
- LeafMan

Ya, he's done in the A ....he'll be in the NHL next year ...somewhere. Carlyle's a huge fitness/strength/weight room guy ...My guess is Kadri's part of a package to land the goalie or big forwards BB is after.

I"ve always hated Bozak on here since I joined many moons ago
- HankMoody89

I've always been a Bozak fan on here since I joined many days ago.

Exactly, this has to be the year to let Kadri play, can't set him aside again. Will Carlyle agree, will see.
- LeafMan

I think it's a coin toss that he gets dealt this summer.

I think it's a coin toss that he gets dealt this summer.
- Unholy_Goalie

Personally think he's gone, its to bad, the little pothead was starting to grow on me.

Ya, he's done in the A ....he'll be in the NHL next year ...somewhere. Carlyle's a huge fitness/strength/weight room guy ...My guess is Kadri's part of a package to land the goalie or big forwards BB is after.
- The Law

This is the 3rd coach I've heard that about.

When Maurice took over, word was he was all about player fitness and that he would whip the players into shape because Quinn was soft on his guys.

Then Maurice gets fired and replaced by Napoleon. Same story. Colaiacovo got traded because he was "too lazy" to be a player for Napoleon.

Now, here's Carlyle. Same story.

I won't be convinced until I see results. Or until Gary Roberts is hired.

Personally think he's gone, its to bad, the little pothead was starting to grow on me.
- Leafland

Weed is nothing. With the money these guys have, lucky it's not cocaine.

How did I not get Shananbanned last night?

Pretty much, yes. He's 26 years old and chances are this is as good as he gets. To me, he's got the tools to be a John Madden type player if he accepts a role on the 3rd line. But as a top-six center, he just doesn't have the talent. If he's lucky, at his absolute best, he might be a 2nd line center. But as of right now, he's getting carried.
- Unholy_Goalie

I really don't think he fits in anywhere in an NHL lineup. Personally I feel to be a top six you need to be a 70-90 point player on the first line. (cause that entails first line minutes and power play minutes) on the second line and second PP unit you should get anywhere between 50-70 depending on your skill level. If you're not getting at least 50 points playing on our second line than I argue you are not a second line player.

Bozak has proven he can not get the kind of point a top six should get. Playing first line minutes with two talented players like LUpul and Kessel, he still only amassed 40 points. I'd argue Colton Orr could get 30 points playing the same role.

Now to play on the bottom six. You have to have faceoff prowess which I will admit, he is great at faceoffs. As much as i dog Bozak on HB over the years. kid can take a draw. BUT what I hate most about him and why I think he can't ever even be a bottom six is he plays incredibly scared. He hates to go into corners and battle for the puck, he hates to stand in front of the net and get banged around by opposing defense and he hates to go right at a guy who has the puck. Instead he'd rather time it perfectly to do a fly by. Long swooping turns to enable him to not be part of the play is his strength. The only time he generates offense is off the rush when he sees an open lane more often then not.

To be a bottom six, you gotta have some grit and Bozak has 0 grit. So where does he fit in as an NHL player? I really don't know that he does and historically speaking and pardon my french but if you're a pu$$y, that doesn't change. You don't all of a sudden grow a set and start playing tougher one day.

How did I not get Shananbanned last night?
- IronMaidnick

Read my warning a few pages back.

This is the 3rd coach I've heard that about.

When Maurice took over, word was he was all about player fitness and that he would whip the players into shape because Quinn was soft on his guys.

Then Maurice gets fired and replaced by Napoleon. Same story. Colaiacovo got traded because he was "too lazy" to be a player for Napoleon.

Now, here's Carlyle. Same story.

I won't be convinced until I see results. Or until Gary Roberts is hired.
- Unholy_Goalie

You're right ...we've earned our right to be skeptical.

Although that day the media couldn't find them and later found out RC had them on a 1 hr pre-practice run was a start.

Weed is nothing. With the money these guys have, lucky it's not cocaine.
- Unholy_Goalie

I've said it before, I'd love the guy if he did cocaine, it would make him a better player. Pot just gives him fat tits.

Read my warning a few pages back.
- LeafMan

Were you the one clearing things up last night?

I've said it before, I'd love the guy if he did cocaine, it would make him a better player. Pot just gives him fat tits.
- Leafland

Didn't work for lecavillier


Seems to be working for Carey Price....... weed I mean......

Were you the one clearing things up last night?
- IronMaidnick

No but i was told about it and asked to have it stopped, this badge of being banned on purpose honour is going to end up being very lengthy.

I've said it before, I'd love the guy if he did cocaine, it would make him a better player. Pot just gives him fat tits.
- Leafland

Didn't work for lecavillier


Seems to be working for Carey Price....... weed I mean......

Were you the one clearing things up last night?
- IronMaidnick

No but i was told about it and asked to have it stopped, this badge of being banned on purpose honour is going to end up being very lengthy.

I've said it before, I'd love the guy if he did cocaine, it would make him a better player. Pot just gives him fat tits.
- Leafland

Didn't work for lecavillier


Seems to be working for Carey Price....... weed I mean......

HB is taking a huge dump or something. May as well go watch this boring hockey game

I wouldnt doubt it one bit.

You're right ...we've earned our right to be skeptical.

Although that day the media couldn't find them and later found out RC had them on a 1 hr pre-practice run was a start.
- The Law

Like I said, when I see results or they hire Roberts, I will believe it. Until then, Carlyle being a fitness freak is just as suspect as Napoleon and Maurice and Quinn before him.

Fact is, an extra hour practice could have been a stunt by Carlyle just to get the attention of the team to get them to understand he's serious.

I really don't think he fits in anywhere in an NHL lineup. Personally I feel to be a top six you need to be a 70-90 point player on the first line. (cause that entails first line minutes and power play minutes) on the second line and second PP unit you should get anywhere between 50-70 depending on your skill level. If you're not getting at least 50 points playing on our second line than I argue you are not a second line player.
Instead he'd rather time it perfectly to do a fly by. Long swooping turns to enable him to not be part of the play is his strength. The only time he generates offense is off the rush when he sees an open lane more often then not.

To be a bottom six, you gotta have some grit and Bozak has 0 grit. So where does he fit in as an NHL player? I really don't know that he does and historically speaking and pardon my french but if you're a pu$$y, that doesn't change. You don't all of a sudden grow a set and start playing tougher one day.
- HankMoody89

Pretty much everything you said is true to every Leaf. It seems you have a grudge against Bozak and can only see his mistakes.

Bozak does play in front of the net, because that's where he gets most of his goals. Bozak does lay the body, some pretty big crunchs for that matter. He also just got to 100 games this year, and had more points then Kessel did at that point in his career.

edit: 100 game stat was from 2 years ago, not this past. Either way, he's the least of the Leafs problems.

To be a bottom six, you gotta have some grit and Bozak has 0 grit. So where does he fit in as an NHL player? I really don't know that he does and historically speaking and pardon my french but if you're a pu$$y, that doesn't change. You don't all of a sudden grow a set and start playing tougher one day.
- HankMoody89

Bozak could easily be a 3rd line center in the mold of Madden. All he would have to do is score 15 goals and 30 points and make sure he's not a defensively liability. It's up to him if he wants to play that role though. Look up Madden's hits some time and you'll see he wasn't throwing 200 hits per year. Granted, Bozak could become tougher but the defensive side of his game is good enough to be a defensive 3rd line center.

No but i was told about it and asked to have it stopped, this badge of being banned on purpose honour is going to end up being very lengthy.
- LeafMan

I wouldn't doubt it one bit.

I've said it before, I'd love the guy if he did cocaine, it would make him a better player. Pot just gives him fat tits.
- Leafland

He, among just about every other player in the NHL, probably lives an adventurous life outside the rink. But his problems on the ice aren't because of that. He just needs to get stronger and play better defense without giving the puck away.