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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 3 @ 11:42 AM ET
wtf kreider? really?
- 2Real


How about Larsson who's played 1 game
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
Watching that game last night, and seeing McDonagh get obliterated with one of the hardest checks I have seen in a while and not missing a shift, playing 53+ minutes, watching Boyle who just returned from a concussion blocking shots with his face, just makes me shake made head in amazement at the lack of effort in that playoff game on Tuesday night. Just unreal.
- PLindbergh31


I am amazed they remain relatively injury free despite the goings on listed above and all the shots they block. Not a broken foot or face save anywhere. Charmed team that way.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 3 @ 11:43 AM ET
This would be my first West Chester Kia Key to the Game brought to you by Bud Light. The second key would be 'Score more goals than the other team'.
- BulliesPhan87


3. Don't drink Bud Light
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
I anticipate much better flow in tonight's game.
- Lexington Flyer


I thought Sutherland did his usual fine job in Game 2. He wasn't obtrusive, his decisions were understandable and he communicated well with the players and coaches.

Lee, unfortunately, also reffed his normal game. He made at least three bad calls in the game (one which should have benefited the Flyers).

That first-period scrum was caused by Lee losing sight of the puck -- the Flyers kept whacking away because it was still loose, the Devils got mad at all the Philly players jabbing at their goalie when an ill-timed whistle blew. Both sides were justified in their reaction.

Then Lee sent off only one player (JVR) in the scrum after the whistle. Without knowing exactly why he called it that way, I'll give the ref the benefit of the doubt and assume he let a few shots go then said "Enough! Next guy gets a penalty" and JVR was the next guy.

I noticed that during a TV timeout late in the first period, Lee went over to talk to JVR, patted him on the back and then skated away. So at least he explained his call.

I still think Lee makes too many poor calls and then evens up marginal calls on one side with marginal calls on the other.

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 3 @ 11:44 AM ET

- flyer_nutter


Youre nuts
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'll bring the bread!
- ggunky

Wonder?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 3 @ 11:47 AM ET
It's shocking that teams have good and bad games, isn't it?
- funmaster18


A bad game is one thing, a loss is one thing, playing a playoff game with zero effort or passion isn't acceptable.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
I thought Sutherland did his usual fine job in Game 2. He wasn't obtrusive, his decisions were understandable and he communicated well with the players and coaches.

Lee, unfortunately, also reffed his normal game. He made at least three bad calls in the game (one which should have benefited the Flyers).

That first-period scrum was caused by Lee losing sight of the puck -- the Flyers kept whacking away because it was still loose, the Devils got mad at all the Philly players jabbing at their goalie when an ill-timed whistle blew. Both sides were justified in their reaction.

Then Lee sent off only one player (JVR) in the scrum after the whistle. Without knowing exactly why he called it that way, I'll give the ref the benefit of the doubt and assume he let a few shots go then said "Enough! Next guy gets a penalty" and JVR was the next guy.

I noticed that during a TV timeout late in the first period, Lee went over to talk to JVR, patted him on the back and then skated away. So at least he explained his call.

I still think Lee makes too many poor calls and then evens up marginal calls on one side with marginal calls on the other.

- bmeltzer

The thing I mentioned the other day is that he often will make up for mistakes.. He makes a bad call, and then compounds it by making another weak call.. Or if he misses a call, he seems to feel the need to try and make a call.

He is way to involved.. and unfortunately, never in a good way.
deligirl83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: changed my sn -used to be kida, NJ
Joined: 04.18.2012

May 3 @ 11:48 AM ET
I thought Sutherland did his usual fine job in Game 2. He wasn't obtrusive, his decisions were understandable and he communicated well with the players and coaches.

Lee, unfortunately, also reffed his normal game. He made at least three bad calls in the game (one which should have benefited the Flyers).

That first-period scrum was caused by Lee losing sight of the puck -- the Flyers kept whacking away because it was still loose, the Devils got mad at all the Philly players jabbing at their goalie when an ill-timed whistle blew. Both sides were justified in their reaction.

Then Lee sent off only one player (JVR) in the scrum after the whistle. Without knowing exactly why he called it that way, I'll give the ref the benefit of the doubt and assume he let a few shots go then said "Enough! Next guy gets a penalty" and JVR was the next guy.

I noticed that during a TV timeout late in the first period, Lee went over to talk to JVR, patted him on the back and then skated away. So at least he explained his call.

I still think Lee makes too many poor calls and then evens up marginal calls on one side with marginal calls on the other.

- bmeltzer


Bill your opinion is the only one i trust. Thoughts on tonight referees?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
Bill your opinion is the only one i trust. Thoughts on tonight referees?
- deligirl83


Could be a lot worse. I think Watson is usually decent, Joanette less consistent but no worse than average.

Last game, I just thought it was funny that the ref team was the guy I consider the best in the NHL and one I consider to be in the bottom 5.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 3 @ 11:52 AM ET
3. Don't drink Bud Light
- funmaster18

+1
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Wonder?
- bodiva88



IDK. They must have changed something, it isn't as good as it was when I was a little dude.

How about home made?

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

May 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
I thought Sutherland did his usual fine job in Game 2. He wasn't obtrusive, his decisions were understandable and he communicated well with the players and coaches.

Lee, unfortunately, also reffed his normal game. He made at least three bad calls in the game (one which should have benefited the Flyers).

That first-period scrum was caused by Lee losing sight of the puck -- the Flyers kept whacking away because it was still loose, the Devils got mad at all the Philly players jabbing at their goalie when an ill-timed whistle blew. Both sides were justified in their reaction.

Then Lee sent off only one player (JVR) in the scrum after the whistle. Without knowing exactly why he called it that way, I'll give the ref the benefit of the doubt and assume he let a few shots go then said "Enough! Next guy gets a penalty" and JVR was the next guy.

I noticed that during a TV timeout late in the first period, Lee went over to talk to JVR, patted him on the back and then skated away. So at least he explained his call.

I still think Lee makes too many poor calls and then evens up marginal calls on one side with marginal calls on the other.

- bmeltzer


Well said Bill. Appreciate your insight on that. I think Lee tends to micromanage a game when all that is required is the right amount of responsible oversight. Kerry Fraser had a column on TSN a few weeks back, after the chaotic Game 3 in the Flyers - Pens series. He talked about "taking the temperature" of a game and knowing when to not sweat the small stuff. Lee unfortunately does not subscribe to that philoshophy.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

May 3 @ 11:58 AM ET
Have not seen it posted in here yet, but some sources are saying Kovy is a go tonight:

http://www.philly.com/phi...eady-to-go-vs-Flyers.html
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

May 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Could be a lot worse. I think Watson is usually decent, Joanette less consistent but no worse than average.

Last game, I just thought it was funny that the ref team was the guy I consider the best in the NHL and one I consider to be in the bottom 5.

- bmeltzer

Bill, how can Sean not be considered one of the best rookies so far? I know it is easier to shut down Malkin and Crosby because they are both centers and wingers are a little harder since he doesn't get caught out of position. He has a hat trick for goodness sake.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

May 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Have not seen it posted in here yet, but some sources are saying Kovy is a go tonight:

http://www.philly.com/phi...eady-to-go-vs-Flyers.html

- Lexington Flyer

That's good. He weakens the team.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 3 @ 12:01 PM ET
Oh come on.. styro isnt bad.. you just have to pour gasoline on it..
- jak521

Where's jsaq. He's a firestarter.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Glad a few people picked up on my comments.

The Devils have had this series go way too nicely imo. They should be a more tired group, with less experienced D. Expose them.

- flyer_nutter

There was some hate growing Tuesday night. I am hopeful. But my great hope is getting out of here before the game starts. Last night I got home for the third OT.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 3 @ 12:08 PM ET
IDK. They must have changed something, it isn't as good as it was when I was a little dude.

How about home made?

- ggunky

I make a nice oatmeal batter bread. Soft but healthy.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 3 @ 12:09 PM ET
Have not seen it posted in here yet, but some sources are saying Kovy is a go tonight:

http://www.philly.com/phi...eady-to-go-vs-Flyers.html

- Lexington Flyer


Saw some tweets earlier that said he's a go.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 3 @ 12:09 PM ET
Bill, how can Sean not be considered one of the best rookies so far? I know it is easier to shut down Malkin and Crosby because they are both centers and wingers are a little harder since he doesn't get caught out of position. He has a hat trick for goodness sake.
- Deasr1

It's a poll on the internet. For heaven's sake, Bryz's monkeys could be voting.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 3 @ 12:10 PM ET
That's good. He weakens the team.
- Deasr1


... when he's not blasting a 100 MPH shot past the goalie or drawing three players to him and dishing to an open teammate at point blank range.

Even with his mobility limited right now, he can still do those things.

It's sounding like he'll play 4th line at even strength plus power play. So I don't think he's going to hurt the team defensively tonight.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 3 @ 12:11 PM ET
Where's jsaq. He's a firestarter.
- bodiva88

I heard he has a native name that goes something like.. Browscorcher?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

May 3 @ 12:11 PM ET


Go Bryzzz!!!
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