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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 4 @ 8:19 AM ET
America will have a pretty solid team as well. Certainly a contender.

Backes
Parise
Kane
Kessel
Kesler
Callahan
Ryan
Oshie
Wheeler


Unreal goaltending too. Only issue may be the D.

- Cape Breton Bruins

They can probably put a decent unit together. Not a whole lot to choose from though. The list as I see it right now:
Suter
Orpik
Yandle
McDonagh
J. Johnson
Byfuglien
Shattenkirk
Carlson
Wisniewski
Gardiner
E. Johnson
nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 4 @ 9:04 AM ET
America will have a pretty solid team as well. Certainly a contender.

Backes
Parise
Kane
Kessel
Kesler
Callahan
Ryan
Oshie
Wheeler


Unreal goaltending too. Only issue may be the D.

- Cape Breton Bruins

the americans have some really good young players being developed right now too. Out of all the countries in the last 10 years i think the americans have stepped up their game big time.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 5:45 PM ET
Schneider would not be ahead of Price. Price is going to be an elite goalie, a defense would be a good start.
- Cape Breton Bruins


Note I said "right now.

And I'm not convinced Price is going to be an elite goalie at all. He's not that young anymore, and still hasn't shown he belongs anywhere near that group.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 5:47 PM ET
They can probably put a decent unit together. Not a whole lot to choose from though. The list as I see it right now:
Suter
Orpik
Yandle
McDonagh
J. Johnson
Byfuglien
Shattenkirk
Carlson
Wisniewski
Gardiner
E. Johnson

- Morris


Conversely, how many of those guys would stand a shot at making the Canadian team? 1 or 2?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 4 @ 6:45 PM ET
Conversely, how many of those guys would stand a shot at making the Canadian team? 1 or 2?
- prock

As of right now, probably just Suter.

They just need 6 guys that can somewhat contain the Canadians though, so the fact that they only have about 10 people even remotely olympic calibre isn't too troubling. Esp if they get a couple cannons on the point - Canadian goaltending hasn't been excellent in the past.
jordan456789
Joined: 10.27.2007

May 4 @ 6:49 PM ET
Note I said "right now.

And I'm not convinced Price is going to be an elite goalie at all. He's not that young anymore, and still hasn't shown he belongs anywhere near that group.

- prock


Note the title is team Canada 2014 so someone would think in the future.

As for Price he is garbage and shouldn't be in the NHL. You know everything
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle line.

Book it.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
Note the title is team Canada 2014 so someone would think in the future.

As for Price he is garbage and shouldn't be in the NHL. You know everything

- jordan456789


Well I'm glad you think he's going to develop tremendously over the next two years depsite their being little to no improvement in his game for the last five. That's very special of you. I'm not so sure about what will happen next year, which is why I made the comment with the qualifier of "right now".

Nor did I say he's garbage. He isn't, however, elite, nor is he in the class of the american goalies mentioned, which was the point I was making. He's a mediocre goalie, something I've said MANY times over the years, and STILL holds true. Sorry you couldn't follow. Ill try to use smaller words next time.
bruinsbeer69
Boston Bruins
Location: Willcox, AZ
Joined: 09.23.2010

May 4 @ 7:39 PM ET
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle line.

Book it.

- gretzky


Playing with the Lucic/Bergeron/Seguin line

We don't even do that in Boston
gretzky
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 4 @ 7:57 PM ET
Playing with the Lucic/Bergeron/Seguin line

We don't even do that in Boston

- bruinsbeer69


I'm surprised nobody has mentioned RNH but everyone has Seguin. Not to say one is better than the other or will be but RNH produced at a higher rate than every rookie in the last 5 years I believe. Hard not to think he *could* have a legit shot. Plus he has some serious 2 way potential as well.

We just have such a stacked team though it would be hard for any 'C' to crack it.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 4 @ 8:09 PM ET
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned RNH but everyone has Seguin. Not to say one is better than the other or will be but RNH produced at a higher rate than every rookie in the last 5 years I believe. Hard not to think he *could* have a legit shot. Plus he has some serious 2 way potential as well.

We just have such a stacked team though it would be hard for any 'C' to crack it.

- gretzky


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bruinsbeer69
Boston Bruins
Location: Willcox, AZ
Joined: 09.23.2010

May 4 @ 8:10 PM ET
Half way through the 1st page... Mentioned by laughs2907
- laughs2907

laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 4 @ 8:12 PM ET

- bruinsbeer69


Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 4 @ 8:21 PM ET
Note I said "right now.

And I'm not convinced Price is going to be an elite goalie at all. He's not that young anymore, and still hasn't shown he belongs anywhere near that group.

- prock

24 isn't young for a goalie anymore?

Quick is 26
Schneider is 26
Miller is 31
Rinne is 29
jordan456789
Joined: 10.27.2007

May 4 @ 9:13 PM ET
24 isn't young for a goalie anymore?

Quick is 26
Schneider is 26
Miller is 31
Rinne is 29

- Cape Breton Bruins


He has a hard time following the bouncing ball so you may have to dumb it down. How were those goalies at 24 years old?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 9:18 PM ET
24 isn't young for a goalie anymore?

Quick is 26
Schneider is 26
Miller is 31
Rinne is 29

- Cape Breton Bruins


S young. That was meant as not THAT young anymore. He will be 25 to start next season, on his sixth season. He's a long ways removed from being a prospect. Many players are either in their best years, are starting to come into them at 25. Can he still take the leap forward from an average goalie to a top one? Sure. Let me ask you this though. Nik Kulemin, one year older, also one great season among many mediocre ones. If I told you he's still young and could turn the corner into an elite sniper, what would your response be?

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 9:31 PM ET
He has a hard time following the bouncing ball so you may have to dumb it down. How were those goalies at 24 years old?
- jordan456789



Well, Quick is one year older. He had a pretty good season last year.

Rinne was in his rookie season at 25. It was pretty solid. It didn't take him long (sure as hell not 5 years) to become a vezina caliber goalie.

At 25, miller placed top 10 in sv% in the league. 11th in GAA. Not bad for a team that didn't give a shyt about defense.

Schneider is one year older, has been stuck behind Luongo, which seems to be proving to be a mistake. Oh, and he fared just fine last year too.

Fyi, that bouncing ball was a bowling ball. It may have been hard for you to pick that up as it bashed your skull in. But ill let your comment slide because of your unfortunate brain damage.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 4 @ 9:34 PM ET
S young. That was meant as not THAT young anymore. He will be 25 to start next season, on his sixth season. He's a long ways removed from being a prospect. Many players are either in their best years, are starting to come into them at 25. Can he still take the leap forward from an average goalie to a top one? Sure. Let me ask you this though. Nik Kulemin, one year older, also one great season among many mediocre ones. If I told you he's still young and could turn the corner into an elite sniper, what would your response be?
- prock

Goalies don't hit their prime till later on. Price is already a great goalie, only going to get better. Comparing goalies to forwards is foolish.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 4 @ 9:35 PM ET
Goalies don't hit their prime till later on. Price is already a great goalie, only going to get better. Comparing goalies to forwards is foolish.
- zach parise9


What do you have to backup your statement of him being a "great" goalie? Not in five years. Right now.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 4 @ 9:49 PM ET
What do you have to backup your statement of him being a "great" goalie? Not in five years. Right now.
- prock

2.43 GAA and .916 save % is respectable, especially on the 3rd worst team in the league. Last year he had 38 wins and a .923 save % to go along with a 2.35 GAA. Solid numbers. He is a good goalie and is only going to get better. He isn't even in the prime of his career yet.
bureforearthsprez
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.14.2009

May 5 @ 2:08 AM ET
Price carries a garbage team on his back in probably the biggest fishbowl in hockey. All while not being French and at the age of 24. Stud goaltender.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 5 @ 3:29 AM ET
He has a hard time following the bouncing ball so you may have to dumb it down. How were those goalies at 24 years old?
- jordan456789

Not as good as Price as that age I'd say.

Price carries a garbage team on his back in probably the biggest fishbowl in hockey. All while not being French and at the age of 24. Stud goaltender.
- bureforearthsprez

Yep. At least a top 10 goalie.

Ludqvist
Rinne
Kiprusoff
Thomas
Quick
Miller when on his game

Then there's Price basically. At least that's how I see it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

May 5 @ 6:36 AM ET
S young. That was meant as not THAT young anymore. He will be 25 to start next season, on his sixth season. He's a long ways removed from being a prospect. Many players are either in their best years, are starting to come into them at 25. Can he still take the leap forward from an average goalie to a top one? Sure. Let me ask you this though. Nik Kulemin, one year older, also one great season among many mediocre ones. If I told you he's still young and could turn the corner into an elite sniper, what would your response be?
- prock

I would say Price's pedigree and natural abilities would leave me to think he would have a better chance of being a more consistant star caliber player than Kulemin. Thats just one man's opinion having watched Price quite a bit throughout his career. Nothing is certain however and the next two to three seasons will go a long way to finding out what his ceiling is.

If the Habs want to see Price reach his full potential they would be wise to do a better job insulating him. He plays behind, perhaps the worst D in the entire NHL. Some of those other goalies I mentioned before all have star caliber D and a much more sound and structured teams. It would be interesting to see what he could do Apples to Apples.

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 5 @ 7:28 AM ET
Not as good as Price as that age I'd say.


Yep. At least a top 10 goalie.

Ludqvist
Rinne
Kiprusoff
Thomas
Quick
Miller when on his game

Then there's Price basically. At least that's how I see it.

- daeth


Easily Hiller. Also Vokoun, Halak, Backstrom, Luongo, Brodeur (though probably not for long), potentially Rask and Scneider.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

May 5 @ 7:31 AM ET
I would say Price's pedigree and natural abilities would leave me to think he would have a better chance of being a more consistant star caliber player than Kulemin. Thats just one man's opinion having watched Price quite a bit throughout his career. Nothing is certain however and the next two to three seasons will go a long way to finding out what his ceiling is.

If the Habs want to see Price reach his full potential they would be wise to do a better job insulating him. He plays behind, perhaps the worst D in the entire NHL. Some of those other goalies I mentioned before all have star caliber D and a much more sound and structured teams. It would be interesting to see what he could do Apples to Apples.

- Cape Breton Bruins


The thing is, we've been hearing this for a while. Next year for price, next year, next year. He finally has a good FULL season last year, and goes right back to his usual self.

What you're telling me that he won't necessarily show these so called elite abilities in his play until potentially 27. Eight seasons into his career. Why does guy get so much leeway from you guys? I guarantee if a Leaf goalie came along that looked good, you would name him a bust after one bad season.
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