himel420
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, PQ Joined: 08.20.2006
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Kunitz crosby bergeron
Eberle toews sharp
Perry Stamkos st-louis
Nash getzlaf lucic
Tavares
Keith seabrook
Weber doughty
Subban pietrongelo
Letang
Price/luongo/crawford
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Kunitz crosby bergeron
Eberle toews sharp
Perry Stamkos st-louis
Nash getzlaf lucic
Tavares
Keith seabrook
Weber doughty
Subban pietrongelo
Letang
Price/luongo/crawford - himel420
Wow.
No
Couture and duchene are both on that team right now.
Bergeron is a bottom 6 center
Tavares is in the starting lineup
Kunitz aint on the team
Neither is sharp
Nor lucic
Eberle is bubble
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Kunitz should not be on the team but he will be.
I wouldn't bring Bergeron. he needs to be a C but there is no room for him. |
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http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/04/pavel-bure-russia-favorite-sochi-2014-winter-olympics-hockey/
The Russian Rocket put out some bulletin-board material for the rest of the Olympic men’s hockey field Wednesday.
“Every team has chances, but the fact that we are the favourites is indisputable,” two-time Olympian Pavel Bure said, according to R-Sport. “We’ll have a very strong team in Sochi with a great coaching staff and several world stars. And this team is capable of taking the trophy.”
The retired forward Bure, 42, won Olympic silver and bronze with Russia in 1998 and 2002. He was the general manager of the Russian team that took fourth in 2006. Russia lost in the quarterfinals in 2010. The nation hasn’t won gold in men’s hockey at the Olympics since the fall of the Soviet Union and the Unified Team’s triumph in 1992.
But home ice always helps, as Canada learned in 2010 on its way to gold.
The Olympic prediction service Infostrada has Russia winning men’s hockey gold, followed by Finland and the Czech Republic. It has neither Canada nor the U.S. winning men’s hockey medals. A North American nation hasn’t medaled at non-North American Olympics since the 1994 Lillehammer Games before the influx of NHL superstars in 1998. - Doppleganger
hasn't BEFORE the influx of NHL superstars. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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hasn't BEFORE the influx of NHL superstars. - Cape Breton Bruins
Are you saying Canada or the USA has medalled, at an Olympics held outside of North America since Lillehammer, where Canada won Silver?
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Wow.
No
Couture and duchene are both on that team right now.
Bergeron is a bottom 6 center
Tavares is in the starting lineup
Kunitz aint on the team
Neither is sharp
Nor lucic
Eberle is bubble - hugefemale dog77
Too bad Hall got injured, he was the oilers best (canadian) chance. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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Too bad Hall got injured, he was the oilers best (canadian) chance. - Morris
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Too bad Hall got injured, he was the oilers best (canadian) chance. - Morris
Agreed. He had a very real shot. One of the top few lw's in the game. Too bad, Pretty much done now.
Duchene gets that spot |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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Agreed. He had a very real shot. One of the top few lw's in the game. Too bad, Pretty much done now.
Duchene gets that spot - hugefemale dog77
Matt Duchene is much higher up the depth chart than Hall, so he would have had the "spot" that you seem to assume Hall had locked up. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Matt Duchene is much higher up the depth chart than Hall, so he would have had the "spot" that you seem to assume Hall had locked up. - Doppleganger
You must be trolling. Neither of us said anything about Taylor Hall having a spot locked up.
Again, there are a lot of great centers on Canada, enough so that they could practically forgo taking any natural wingers if they wanted to. I'd say hall when healthy is pretty high up the Canadian depth chart for las, but who knows where that puts him for forwards overall.
Hall had a better last two years, but Duchene has a similar element of speed and more of a track record to go off of |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Matt Duchene is much higher up the depth chart than Hall, so he would have had the "spot" that you seem to assume Hall had locked up. - Doppleganger
as of the last month yes. he's one of the hottest and best players in the league at present.
but before the season started, im not sure I agree.
hall outscored him last year and the year before. and unlike matt he's a natural winger. Canada is gonna have a ton of centers converting to the wing.
there was a few forward locks before the season started and id say only 1 of them may have changed due to such a poor start (Giroux) the rest still make it as of today; Crosby, Tavares, toews, Bergeron, stamkos.
and neither hall nor Duchene were locks.
to say Duchene was higher up the depth chart before the season started is pure fallacy and conjecture. maybe on yours cause your only thinking the last month and closing your eyes to the big picture. but certainly not for sure on managements.
side note: while hall has probably injured himself out of a spot and Duchene has played himself into one; it's also not like hall was terrible before he went down. he had 8 points in 9 games with a lot of time to claim a spot.
couture was a bubble guy as well, and in my opinion, just like Duchene has, hes played himself into a spot
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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as of the last month yes. he's one of the hottest and best players in the league at present.
but before the season started, im not sure I agree.
hall outscored him last year and the year before. and unlike matt he's a natural winger. Canada is gonna have a ton of centers converting to the wing.
there was a few forward locks before the season started and id say only 1 of them may have changed due to such a poor start (Giroux) the rest still make it as of today; Crosby, Tavares, toews, Bergeron, stamkos.
and neither hall nor Duchene were locks.
to say Duchene was higher up the depth chart before the season started is pure fallacy and conjecture. maybe on yours cause your only thinking the last month and closing your eyes to the big picture. but certainly not for sure on managements.
side note: while hall has probably injured himself out of a spot and Duchene has played himself into one; it's also not like hall was terrible before he went down. he had 8 points in 9 games with a lot of time to claim a spot.
couture was a bubble guy as well, and in my opinion, just like Duchene has, hes played himself into a spot - hugefemale dog77
That about covers it. I don't know how the notion of Taylor Hall making the Canadian team merits a nine laugh response
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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That about covers it. I don't know how the notion of Taylor Hall making the Canadian team merits a nine laugh response - Morris
troll or hater.
anything else is uneducated |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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troll or hater.
anything else is uneducated - hugefemale dog77
Wow, they must make the Kool Aid with Oil for Edmonton fans, as the condescension is strong with all y'all.
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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that's condescending - Doppleganger
cool, good thing that I and all Edmonton fans said that.
Again, what gives with the laughs? |
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nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Windsor Area, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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I think I am of the minority who actually really likes these jerseys - willey101
well we know you have bad taste in things, you are a habs fan!!! HEYO |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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cool, good thing that I and all Edmonton fans said that.
Again, what gives with the laughs? - Morris
Here is the list of forwards that were invited to the orientation camp from Aug. 25-28 in Calgary. Keeping in mind each players projected "role" on the final roster, do you really think he had a realistic chance of making the final cut?
Now of course there will be players who are now injured, not playing up to expectations, and others who may play themselves onto the roster who were not invited.
I would suggest that Hall was one of a few younger players who were invited to be part of the program, for the future, not this current Olympics.
Patrice Bergeron
Jeff Carter
Logan Couture
Sidney Crosby
Matt Duchene
Jordan Eberle
Ryan Getzlaf
Claude Giroux
Taylor Hall
Chris Kunitz
Andrew Ladd
Milan Lucic
Brad Marchand
Rick Nash 6'4"
James Neal
Corey Perry
Michael Richards
Patrick Sharp
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal
Martin St. Louis
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Joe Thornton
Jonathan Toews
Please make your argument, if ALL these forwards were 100% healthy and playing up to expectations, who would NOT make the final team if Hall did. |
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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 10.04.2006
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Here is the list of forwards that were invited to the orientation camp from Aug. 25-28 in Calgary. Keeping in mind each players projected "role" on the final roster, do you really think he had a realistic chance of making the final cut?
Now of course there will be players who are now injured, not playing up to expectations, and others who may play themselves onto the roster who were not invited.
I would suggest that Hall was one of a few younger players who were invited to be part of the program, for the future, not this current Olympics.
Patrice Bergeron
Jeff Carter
Logan Couture
Sidney Crosby
Matt Duchene
Jordan Eberle
Ryan Getzlaf
Claude Giroux
Taylor Hall
Chris Kunitz
Andrew Ladd
Milan Lucic
Brad Marchand
Rick Nash 6'4"
James Neal
Corey Perry
Michael Richards
Patrick Sharp
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal
Martin St. Louis
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Joe Thornton
Jonathan Toews
Please make your argument, if ALL these forwards were 100% healthy and playing up to expectations, who would NOT make the final team if Hall did. - Doppleganger
Brad Marchand
Andrew Ladd |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Here is the list of forwards that were invited to the orientation camp from Aug. 25-28 in Calgary. Keeping in mind each players projected "role" on the final roster, do you really think he had a realistic chance of making the final cut?
Now of course there will be players who are now injured, not playing up to expectations, and others who may play themselves onto the roster who were not invited.
I would suggest that Hall was one of a few younger players who were invited to be part of the program, for the future, not this current Olympics.
Patrice Bergeron
Jeff Carter
Logan Couture
Sidney Crosby
Matt Duchene
Jordan Eberle
Ryan Getzlaf
Claude Giroux
Taylor Hall
Chris Kunitz
Andrew Ladd
Milan Lucic
Brad Marchand
Rick Nash 6'4"
James Neal
Corey Perry
Michael Richards
Patrick Sharp
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal
Martin St. Louis
Steven Stamkos
John Tavares
Joe Thornton
Jonathan Toews
Please make your argument, if ALL these forwards were 100% healthy and playing up to expectations, who would NOT make the final team if Hall did. - Doppleganger
First of all, I made no claim that Taylor Hall would make the team. I said he represented the best chance on the Oilers.
Second, it's kind of a silly assumption that everyone would be healthy and playing well. I wouldn't say that Hall has a great shot if every player was healthy and playing to expectations. But I would assume that if there was any chance in hell that would happen, they wouldn't have invited so many forwards to camp.
Third, the thing about young players is that they have the capability to exceed expectations. I think at this point we likely know that 34 year old Chris Kunitz is good for somewhere between 50-65 points. Do we say the same thing about 21 year old Taylor Hall, 22 year old Matt Duchene or 23 year old Jonathan Tavares? Likely not, so to put established and young players in the same category assumes that the younger guys won't show significant progress, as they are wont to do. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Brad Marchand
Andrew Ladd - rmiethaner
Among the invited, I would say
Hall, Duchene, Eberle, Kunitz, Ladd, Marchand, J. Staal were bubble invites at the beginning of the year. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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If I had to guess Dopps, you mistakenly thought I claimed that Taylor Hall was a lock, and laughed off that assertion.
Now that you realize what I'm saying is quite reasonable, you're in too deep to back down.
It's not laughable to think that anyone good enough to get a camp invite has a snowball's chance in hell to make the team, that's all. |
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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Reality Joined: 08.25.2006
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If I had to guess Dopps, you mistakenly thought I claimed that Taylor Hall was a lock, and laughed off that assertion.
Now that you realize what I'm saying is quite reasonable, you're in too deep to back down.
It's not laughable to think that anyone good enough to get a camp invite has a snowball's chance in hell to make the team, that's all. - Morris
He was invited, but did not have a reasonable chance to make the team in my opinion.
There are a few players, not invited in August, that are currently playing better than Hall and may be considered higher on the depth chart today.
But now that he's injured, he probably will be sitting at home, watching games in the middle of the night with those fans who will be doing the same.
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