I'm honestly saying that you're a Borat-style character created by a middle-aged Canadian message-board version of Sascha Baron Cohen.

Because that's the only thing that makes sense
- Morris

The alternative is that we're dealing with one of the biggest idiots on the face of the planet.

I'm honestly saying that you're a Borat-style character created by a middle-aged Canadian message-board version of Sascha Baron Cohen.

Because that's the only thing that makes sense
- Morris

I'm sorry, I thought you were one of the more sensible posters here. But, if that's what you honestly think then that's okay.

If you don't want to answer the questions, then I can only assume it's because you agree with me.

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??

The answers are, "no the game is played differently" and "yes they did take the ice size into account"

I'm sorry, I thought you were one of the more sensible posters here. But, if that's what you honestly think then that's okay.

If you don't want to answer the questions, then I can only assume it's because you agree with me.

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??

The answers are, "no the game is played differently" and "yes they did take the ice size into account"
- Doppleganger

When do you ever address anything I have to say? You don't really, you just kind of push your own agenda. You've asked the same series of questions three times now, so I'll answer even though you rarely give anyone the courtesy of fully addressing their points.

No, I'm not saying that and I don't know where you got that idea. I'm saying, as I've said all along, that Canada has the talent pool to be able to adjust to any changes whatsoever. If we pick the right team for the situation, we'll win. So far it looks like we've picked a pretty good team.

The alternative is that we're dealing with one of the biggest idiots on the face of the planet.
- prock

So you are saying there is NO difference in how the game is played on both ice sizes, and that ice size did not factor into the selections of the the North American teams.



By failing to answer these two questions, that everyone know what the answers are, prove my point.

thanks

When do you ever address anything I have to say? You don't really, you just kind of push your own agenda. You've asked the same series of questions three times now, so I'll answer even though you rarely give anyone the courtesy of fully addressing their points.

No, I'm not saying that and I don't know where you got that idea. I'm saying, as I've said all along, that Canada has the talent pool to be able to adjust to any changes whatsoever. If we pick the right team for the situation, we'll win. So far it looks like we've picked a pretty good team.


- Morris

man up, and answer to questions please (that everyone already know the answers)

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??

man up, and answer to questions please (that everyone already know the answers)

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??
- Doppleganger

finish reading my posts before you get a submit boner and draft a hasty response, please.

finish reading my posts before you get a submit boner and draft a hasty response, please.
- Morris

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??
- Doppleganger

I answered that question. Please stop acting like you're the world's least tactful prosecuting attourney.

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??
- Doppleganger

you said it wasn't a factor.

Are you honestly saying the "game" is played EXACTLY the same on both ice sizes??

Did the North American teams pick their teams without taking ice size into account??
- Doppleganger

If they did they made a huge mistake, the ice size didn't factor, remember??

The USA game was decided in a shootout...........ice size ended up not being a fatcor.

Today's game featured eight Finns who play regularly on International sized ice.

They seemed way more comfortable, and played as a team, not as individuals as the Russians seemed to be, during the whole tournament.


Defence and goal tending are proving to be decisive factors in the tournament being played on International sized ice. It seems the Finns just kept the Russians to outside (where there's lot more of on International sized ice) and protected to slot.
- Doppleganger

Teams whose players predominantly play on NHL ice:
Canada
USA
Sweden

Games between teams whose players predominantly play on NHL ice and teams whose players predominantly play on International ice:


Sweden 4 Czech Republic 2

USA 7 Slovakia 1

Canada 3 Norway 1

Sweden 1 Switzerland 0

USA 3 Russia 2 (SO)

Sweden 5 Latvia 3

Canada 2 Finland 1 (OT)

USA 5 Slovenia 1

Sweden 5 Slovenia 0

Canada 2 Latvia 1

USA 5 Czech republic 2

There are 2 more games that will be played between such opponents. All NHL ice teams are guaranteed to play for a medal.

Nuts.....

literally no heart whatsoever

team canada
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price

water boy : crosby

team canada
doughty weber doughty
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doughty weber doughty
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water boy : crosby
- nightmare3020

How dare you leave Kunitz off the roster. I don't see Doughty and Weber top 10 in scoring in the last two years

literally no heart whatsoever
- Crimsoninja

we cant all have kessel and jvr on our team

How dare you leave Kunitz off the roster. I don't see Doughty and Weber top 10 in scoring in the last two years
- Morris

jock strap washer :Kunitz

better?

I answered that question. Please stop acting like you're the world's least tactful prosecuting attourney.
- Morris

Yes you did. on July 26 @ 4:04 PM ET

That being said, Canada has all the depth needed to pick a team that in terms of on-ice quality could easily be the favourites. If they pick a team of forwards that skate well and avoid the costly penalties that can come with too much grit, defenders that adjust to the larger width well and goaltenders that track off-angle shots well I don't see the intangibles mattering too too much.

In short, I'll reserve my judgement until we narrow the squad down.
- Morris

Yes you did. on July 26 @ 4:04 PM ET
- Doppleganger

yeah that, and two posts ago. What. in the world. is your point?

Agreed.

If it was again on an nhl sized rink, we might see all of thornton, getzlaf, lucic, benn etc. but i highly doubt that'll be the case in russia.
This team will be tailored towards skating and all around play. All with a plethora of offensive talent. I dont think the big ice is gonna be a minus for canada.


- hugefemale dog77

So if the International sized ice was NOT a minus for Canada, which I agree to a certain point, then it MUST have been an advantage for Latvia.


Case in point. As mentioned on today's telecast, all but one of the players for Latvia all play in Europe on International sized ice, and nine for the same team in the KHL, which shutdown two week prior to the Olympics.

They're way more accustomed to playing the tactical style of game the International sized ice demands, in this type of tournament.



Imagine if the team Canada roster had two weeks off prior to the Olympic tournament, in order to prepare for this tournament, and become more comfortable with the style of play required on International sized ice...................I think today's game would have been a complete blowout.




All that being said, Canada has not fared well against what most people would agree, are not teams they should have had no problem with.

A 3 - 1 win over Norway, a 6 - 0 win vs Austria (not bad) a 2 -1 overtime vs the Finns and today they escaped with a 2 - 1 win vs Latvia.

When they meet the USA they better have another gear.





BTW John Tavares done for the tournament, the NHL's third leading scoring leader.

yeah that, and two posts ago. What. in the world. is your point?
- Morris

My point(s) for the past year, is that some of the teams at this tournament will have some advantages that the North Americans will not have..............and to some point, will level the playing field to a degree, in their favour.

My point(s) for the past year, is that some of the teams at this tournament will have some advantages that the North Americans will not have..............and to some point, will level the playing field to a degree, in their favour.
- Doppleganger

Can you clarify what you mean here? Do you mean level the playing field somewhat, level the playing field completely, or do you mean the playing field will be in their favour?

Can you clarify what you mean here? Do you mean level the playing field somewhat, level the playing field completely, or do you mean the playing field will be in their favour?
- Morris

Well Canada squeaked out a 2 - 1 win vs Latvia today.

Why was the game so close?

Canada has a NHL super star line up, and Latvia has one NHLer and rest are mostly all KHLers.

There must be some reasons that this game was NOT a blow out, as most people thought it would be.



Advantages the Latvian team had (That Canada did not)

ALL players grew up playing on International sized ice, and learning the style of play required to play on it

ALL players (but one) are playing in leagues in Europe (eg. KHL) on International sized ice, playing the the style of play required to play on it and being extremely comfortable on it (as much as NHLers are on NHL ice)

All the players, playing in the KHL, had two weeks off prior to the tournament to prepare for the tournament.


Disadvantages Canada had

None of the advantages the Latvians had (above)

Played a compressed schedule up to the point of having to fly between 9 and 12 time zones ( three flights) from North America before arriving in Sochi............and then having to adjust to the time zone change and jet lag.

Only a couple of practises before tournament started, and not nailing down line combinations even in today's game.

Well Canada squeaked out a 2 - 1 win vs Latvia today.

Why was the game so close?

Canada has a NHL super star line up, and Latvia has one NHLer and rest are mostly all KHLers.

There must be some reasons that this game was NOT a blow out, as most people thought it would be.



Advantages the Latvian team had (That Canada did not)

ALL players grew up playing on International sized ice, and learning the style of play required to play on it

ALL players (but one) are playing in leagues in Europe (eg. KHL) on International sized ice, playing the the style of play required to play on it and being extremely comfortable on it (as much as NHLers are on NHL ice)

All the players, playing in the KHL, had two weeks off prior to the tournament to prepare for the tournament.


Disadvantages Canada had

None of the advantages the Latvians had (above)

Played a compressed schedule up to the point of having to fly between 9 and 12 time zones ( three flights) from North America before arriving in Sochi............and then having to adjust to the time zone change and jet lag.

Only a couple of practises before tournament started, and not nailing down line combinations even in today's game.
- Doppleganger

You keep re-iterating the big ice thing, when what leapt out at me on the broadcast is that many of them played on the same team.

Also, the advantages that Latvia enjoyed would be more persuasive if Canada didn't completely and unarguably outplay them. Did it seem to you outside of perhaps a collapse defense (that Canada also did very well) that Latvia was using the big ice to their advantage in any way?