unabomber type stuff.
- prock

he just keeps going and going. we've made him look like a fool over and over and it's like he doesn't even notice and just goes on a different tangent. again and again and again

it's not even ignorance, it's actually kind of alarming how fuked in the head he is

all true, but to be fair, some of you guys seem just as creepy/(frank)ed in the head with your obsession with him.

all true, but to be fair, some of you guys seem just as creepy/(frank)ed in the head with your obsession with him.
- Crimsoninja

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Between the two teams playing for Gold, one player will not be an NHLer.

Between the two teams playing for Gold, one player will not be an NHLer.
- Morris

luongo?

luongo?
- nightmare3020

Jimmie Ericsson the Swedish 4th liner

semantics semantics...............whatever.

The Canadians will NOT be a Juggernaut in 2014, and that was my point.

The Russians will have all the advantages that Canada did in 2010, plus they'll have a stronger team better suited for the larger ice.
- Doppleganger

he just keeps going and going. we've made him look like a fool over and over and it's like he doesn't even notice and just goes on a different tangent. again and again and again

it's not even ignorance, it's actually kind of alarming how fuked in the head he is
- hugefemale dog77

Sorry, you're the one who is a fool.

I've said from the get go, that the International sized ice, requires a different game plan, and this is an "adjustment" North Americans have to deal with, while the Europoen players don't have to as they're make more familiar with the style of play required to be successful on International sized ice.


I've listed quotes from numerous NHLers and NHL coaches that agree with this assessment.

While all you do is insult me with profanity, and continually try to convince yourself that the game is played exactly the same no matter what the ice size is.

So who is right, you...........or all the quoted NHLers and NHL coaches???


I'll stay with the NHLers and NHL coaches, thank you very much.


Please respond with your usual insults and profanity..............perhaps that will change the opinions of the quoted NHLers and NHL coaches?

Between the two teams playing for Gold, one player will not be an NHLer.
- Morris

Whats your point???

- senstroll

Has Canada been a Juggernaut?

Not so far, against some of the weaker teams.

Sorry, you're the one who is a fool.

I've said from the get go, that the International sized ice, requires a different game plan, and this is an "adjustment" North Americans have to deal with, while the Europoen players don't have to as they're make more familiar with the style of play required to be successful on International sized ice.


I've listed quotes from numerous NHLers and NHL coaches that agree with this assessment.

While all you do is insult me with profanity, and continually try to convince yourself that the game is played exactly the same no matter what the ice size is.

So who is right, you...........or all the quoted NHLers and NHL coaches???


I'll stay with the NHLers and NHL coaches, thank you very much.


Please respond with your usual insults and profanity..............perhaps that will change the opinions of the quoted NHLers and NHL coaches?



- Doppleganger

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Except the rus/us game, remember?

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Except the rus/us game, remember?
- burn

Corey Masisak - NHL.com Staff Writer

If there are issues for the North American countries adapting to the larger ice, because of the travel or whatever else has been a problem in the past, other gold-medal contenders losing key players to injury will help negate some of those factors.





Has Canada been a Juggernaut?

Corey Masisak - NHL.com Staff Writer

If there are issues for the North American countries adapting to the larger ice, because of the travel or whatever else has been a problem in the past, other gold-medal contenders losing key players to injury will help negate some of those factors.





Has Canada been a Juggernaut?
- Doppleganger

did anyone expect them to??

that was a terrible attempt to change the subject.

Has Canada been a Juggernaut?

Not so far, against some of the weaker teams.
- Doppleganger

the real test would have been the superior big Ice team Russia... but they went and got eliminated real early

Two north american teams playing for a chance at the gold medal game. Guaranteed one will be in it. Its just a shame that one of these two juggernauts will be eliminated.

Great hockey though.

Corey Masisak - NHL.com Staff Writer

If there are issues for the North American countries adapting to the larger ice, because of the travel or whatever else has been a problem in the past, other gold-medal contenders losing key players to injury will help negate some of those factors.




Has Canada been a Juggernaut?
- Doppleganger

Yes

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle
So... maybe it doesn't matter if Canada can't score. Have allowed three goals all tournament. Defensive juggernaut?

Yes
- senstroll

Owned.

Two north american teams playing for a chance at the gold medal game. Guaranteed one will be in it. Its just a shame that one of these two juggernauts will be eliminated.

Great hockey though.
- prock

Absolutely. Add in the fact that even the Swedish team plays predominantly on NHL ice, and it should be interesting to see another matchup with two teams comprised of NHLers utilize that big ice to their advantage

Absolutely. Add in the fact that even the Swedish team plays predominantly on NHL ice, and it should be interesting to see another matchup with two teams comprised of NHLers utilize that big ice to their advantage
- Morris

this was a great post.

it's really amazing how guys like drew doughty take advantage of the big ice.


Sweden, who also happens to be all nhl'ers, are gonna be tough, but im cautiously optimistic

Yes
- senstroll

a juggernaut without a doubt. 3 goals allowed in 5 games!! amazing.

just shut out the yanks. impressive

this was a great post.

it's really amazing how guys like drew doughty take advantage of the big ice.


Sweden, who also happens to be all nhl'ers, are gonna be tough, but im cautiously optimistic
- hugefemale dog77

It's easy to forget what a good skater Doughty is because he's so wide. Finland did do a decent job reigning Karlsson in today, but obviously NHL-calibre skaters are just feasting on these ice opportunities.

It's easy to forget what a good skater Doughty is because he's so wide. Finland did do a decent job reigning Karlsson in today, but obviously NHL-calibre skaters are just feasting on these ice opportunities.
- Morris

agreed. with this much space to wheel, guy slike doughty and bouwmeester are dominant.

the swedes are probably the one team with a defence as good as ours. not far behind anyway.
if we can pressure and forecheck the eff outta their superstar nhl dmen that are killing with this much space, we can hopefully negate their transition game and let our dmen control the game

we've defensively dominated the European non nhl'ers so much thus far, but it's gonna have to be at another level with the much superior nhl level talent.

Yes
- senstroll

I'll give you a defensive Juggernaut.

These people tend to disagree with you...........I'll go with them, and not you.
Okay?





Dave Lozo , NHL National Lead Writer
Feb 10, 2014



Henrik Lundqvist, Goaltender, New York Rangers, Team Sweden

"The first couple practices, you try to get used to it. It’s like every summer, you skate back home and get used to the big ice, then you come back here, the first couple practices it feels very tight and narrow. But a couple days in, you don’t think about it.

You have to expect players to have more time. Here, if a guy gets a pass in the slot, usually there’s a guy there right away. The big ice, you have a little more room and a little more time. I think that’s the biggest difference."


Mats Zuccarello, Left Wing, New York Rangers, Team Norway

" It’s a little bit different, but not that much. You take the U.S. and Canada, and it’s going to take them a couple games to really get into the structure. But I’m sure it’s not going to be a problem. Even Sweden and Russia, everyone plays over here so it’s not going to benefit anyone…except Norway. Everyone plays on the big ice except me.

I like the small ice. On the big ice, you can just defend. Here, you can shoot from anywhere and it’s a scoring chance. There, you can put five guys in there and nothing really happens."

Nicklas Backstrom, Center, Washington Capitals, Team Sweden

"It’s going to be a different game than what we’re used to here. Hopefully we can use it to our advantage. I think you have to skate more, but you have more time to make plays too. We all grew up playing the bigger ice, so hopefully we still know how to play."


Jay Bouwmeester, Defenseman, St. Louis Blues, Team Canada

" There’s a little bit of an adjustment. The thing you have to remember is all the extra space is on the outside. All the dots and everything else is the same dimensions so as a defenseman, you don’t want to get running around caught on the outside. There’s times when guys go to those quiet areas and you have to let them go. You can’t chase them. That’s when you get caught running out of position. Maybe you have to play a bit more of a patient game defensively.

All the extra space is in the corners, behind the net, on the outside of the rink. You still can’t stand in the middle of the ice. Nothing changes. When you’re playing, you have to remind yourself the boards are further from the net. You have to have more awareness, because you can get yourself drawn out to guys. They’ll try to bait you out there and that opens up the space in the middle.

It’s almost like killing penalties. There’s times to go and pressure and there’s times where you have to be patient and realize that the real dangerous areas are still the same. In front of the net, dots to the net, that sort of thing. But there’s good players who are going to use that to try to spread you out, get you running around and find that open space."

Ken Hitchcock, Head Coach, St. Louis Blues, Team Canada Associate Coach

" It’s more comfortable for the Euros because they grew up on it. They understand how to play that game. But I coached in it in ’06 and the game’s changed. Some of the countries play like we do now. I think some of the countries that maybe have limited NHL players play the old way, which is basically five back. But I think a lot of the countries like Finland, the Slovaks, the Russians, they come at you. So I think it’s not going to be a game like we saw in ’06 where there was basically no forechecking throughout the tournament. I think you’re still going to see a lot of forechecking.

I know one thing—when you play on that big ice surface, your sense of timing of when to forecheck and when to pull back gets automatic quite a bit. And that’s probably the adjustment we have to make, knowing when to go and when to pull up. They’ve taken advantage of us being overly aggressive. Our natural instincts are to play on our toes and they have a balance in their game. I think that’s the balance that we have to learn quickly.

The difference between the big-ice game and the small-ice game is the small-ice game is played north and south and the big-ice game is played east and west. It’s always finding the weak side of the ice, the big-ice game. You’ve got to feel really comfortable finding the weak side of the ice. That’s where all the plays get made.

If you try to play north on the big ice, you’re going to run right into numbers all the time. You have to be really comfortable going east-west before you go north. That’s how they play. They play east-west to go north, whereas we play north to go north. So that’s the biggest adjustment. Chipping it on the boards and chasing it down doesn’t’ work in Europe. It doesn’t work on big ice. So we’ll have to make those adjustments right away in practice."
- Doppleganger

man, cherry picking is fun. change a few bolds and the article seems much different if you actually read the whole thing and don't only highlight the parts that may support ones argument.

yeah, just shows how many of the smaller nations are really picking it up... Makes for a great tournament. And just shows the kind of effect things like pro players at the Olympics is having on hockey worldwide. It's great for the game.

And that's why the NHL will continue to go to the Olympics. Since NHL players have gone to the Olympics, the revenues of the NHL, and popularity of hockey, has skyrocketed.

Any coincidence the biggest growth period in the history of the game is from the eearly to mid 90s on?
- prock

http://www.midwestsportsf...end-nhl-players-olympics/

“As a practical business matter, for the clubs individually, the Olympics have no tangible positive effect,” NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly recently said, echoing comments made by Commissioner Bettman and several owners.

Daly pointed out that in the past, NHL television ratings and ticket sales haven’t gone up following the Olympics.

Such statistics back up the claims made by people like Ed Snider that sending NHL players to the Olympics results in almost no positives for the league or its owners.