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wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
fire everyone. trade everyone. suspend everyone.
- hammarby31


canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
He said that he hit a guy on purpose.
- Jsaquella



That'll do it. Honesty isn't always best.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
yea nice try.
Edit: If you really don't know try using google.

- JoeRussomanno



Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
If he had said that, he probably doesn't get anything. As it is, he probably won't miss a single start
- Jsaquella

ya obviously

still funny tho
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
ya obviously

still funny tho

- Crimsoninja


It is. Todd Zoleki just tweeted that he won;t appeal, likely to pitch Sunday
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 7 @ 5:22 PM ET
It is. Todd Zoleki just tweeted that he won;t appeal, likely to pitch Sunday
- Jsaquella



It's like giving a DH a suspension and letting him serve it during interleague play.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
He's also quite a bit better than what the Flyers have on hand to replace him. Want Erik Gustafsson playing 22 minutes a night next year? I don't. That means you either re-sign Carle or replace him via a trade or free agency. Either way you're going to trade significant assets or take on a sizeable cap hit.
- Jsaquella



Why this Gusty hate? He is by far the best in the +/- column against NJD. Where by far I mean he is +4 and no one else is even positive. I have been very impressed by his poise and ability to be calm under pressure.

I am equally amazed at this Meszy love. What exactly is he going to do? This is not Boston who are wearing us down with their big bodies. These are people panicking under pressure.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
I take it you have one of those in Philly? Coming from an Alberta boy you know I have comparables, that is one hell of an eatery!
- canadianpenfan

Prefer Capital Grille.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 7 @ 5:32 PM ET
It is. Todd Zoleki just tweeted that he won;t appeal, likely to pitch Sunday
- Jsaquella

If he's not pitching 'til Sunday then that IS pushing him back. He pitched Friday and would have been scheduled to go Wednesday.
hobo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2008

May 7 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why this Gusty hate? He is by far the best in the +/- column against NJD. Where by far I mean he is +4 and no one else is even positive. I have been very impressed by his poise and ability to be calm under pressure.

I am equally amazed at this Meszy love. What exactly is he going to do? This is not Boston who are wearing us down with their big bodies. These are people panicking under pressure.

- PT21


Statistics are only of use when applied to Matt Carle in a positive manner. Any suggestion that another player's statistics in some twisted way make him seem better than Matt Carle shall be deemed inadmissible.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 7 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why this Gusty hate? He is by far the best in the +/- column against NJD. Where by far I mean he is +4 and no one else is even positive. I have been very impressed by his poise and ability to be calm under pressure.

I am equally amazed at this Meszy love. What exactly is he going to do? This is not Boston who are wearing us down with their big bodies. These are people panicking under pressure.

- PT21

If he were healthy Meszy would bring the physical, have a solid shot from the point on the PP and play a solid defensive game. He isn't prone to errors. I love gusty, but he IS undersized and he IS a rookie. I like him, too, but I don't think he's auditioning for a top pairing role at the moment.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why this Gusty hate? He is by far the best in the +/- column against NJD. Where by far I mean he is +4 and no one else is even positive. I have been very impressed by his poise and ability to be calm under pressure.

I am equally amazed at this Meszy love. What exactly is he going to do? This is not Boston who are wearing us down with their big bodies. These are people panicking under pressure.

- PT21


A healthy Meszaros would be a significant upgrade over Gustafsson.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 7 @ 5:37 PM ET
If he were healthy Meszy would bring the physical, have a solid shot from the point on the PP and play a solid defensive game. He isn't prone to errors. I love gusty, but he IS undersized and he IS a rookie. I like him, too, but I don't think he's auditioning for a top pairing role at the moment.
- bodiva88


yes he is: second paragraph of second section of the following:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=39922

not that i care one way or another. Gus v. Meszaros is not going to make a difference in this series.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 7 @ 5:38 PM ET
Prefer Capital Grille.
- bodiva88



Never been so I can't comment. Have you eaten at Ruth Chris?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 5:39 PM ET
yes he is: second paragraph of second section of the following:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=39922

not that i care one way or another. Gus v. Meszaros is not going to make a difference in this series.

- wilsonecho91



You can find a game like that for any NHL defenseman. Not being prone to errors means that more times then not, he makes the right play. And your latter point is likely correct. Not if the other issues aren't fixed.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 7 @ 5:40 PM ET
A healthy Meszaros would be a significant upgrade over Gustafsson.
- MJL



In this particular series, I am not sure about that at all.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
You can find a game like that for any NHL defenseman. Not being prone to errors means that more times then not, he makes the right play. And your latter point is likely correct. Not if the other issues aren't fixed.
- MJL


acknowledged regarding all defenseman, but I thought Bill's point that he had a chronic problem of overcommiting to a man and taking himself out of the play was a good reminder that Mesz wasn't great earlier in the year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 5:42 PM ET
In this particular series, I am not sure about that at all.
- PT21


I'm 100% positive about that. Gustafsson is a 6/7 defenseman. Meszaros is a top 4 quality experienced NHL defenseman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 5:43 PM ET
acknowledged regarding all defenseman, but I thought Bill's point that he had a chronic problem of overcommiting to a man and taking himself out of the play was a good reminder that Mesz wasn't great earlier in the year.
- wilsonecho91


Meszaros has had periods of inconsistency. But he's also had long periods of play where he has been a beast.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 7 @ 5:45 PM ET
Prefer Capital Grille.
- bodiva88

Morton's
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 7 @ 5:46 PM ET
If he were healthy Meszy would bring the physical, have a solid shot from the point on the PP and play a solid defensive game. He isn't prone to errors. I love gusty, but he IS undersized and he IS a rookie. I like him, too, but I don't think he's auditioning for a top pairing role at the moment.
- bodiva88



This is the same Meszy who had a very mediocre first 2/3 of the season, right?

I like Meszy, actually. But I don't think the big shot from the point would help. We can barely get set up on the pp.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 7 @ 5:46 PM ET
Nationals GM Mike Rizzo calls Cole Hamels "Gutless". I shudder to imagine what he would think of the Flyers performance the last three games.

http://www.metro.us/phila...e-harper-beaning?rand=967
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
I'm 100% positive about that. Gustafsson is a 6/7 defenseman. Meszaros is a top 4 quality experienced NHL defenseman.
- MJL


By that logic, Carle should be better than Gusty. Has he been so?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 7 @ 5:49 PM ET
By that logic, Carle should be better than Gusty. Has he been so?
- PT21


Absolutely. Gustafsson isn't close to the player that Carle is.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 7 @ 5:53 PM ET
Absolutely. Gustafsson isn't close to the player that Carle is.
- MJL

some people just miss this show
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