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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 12 @ 10:05 PM ET
He's been about as involved tonight as I was, and I was cooking dinner and doing laundry
- Jsaquella


To be fair, the Rangers have a way of doing that to key opposing players. But I agree that he was a total non-factor tonight.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 12 @ 10:06 PM ET
disgrace.
- hammarby31


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 12 @ 10:07 PM ET
Couldn't overcome blowing Game 5.
- MrBuzzcut


They lost the series because of that game.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 12 @ 10:08 PM ET
They lost the series because of that game.
- stveshdy


6 (frank)ing seconds.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:09 PM ET
To be fair, the Rangers have a way of doing that to key opposing players. But I agree that he was a total non-factor tonight.
- bmeltzer


Well for Dale Hunter he can now go be involved in his London Knights run to win the Memorial Cup after winning the OHL championship.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 12 @ 10:10 PM ET
To be fair, the Rangers have a way of doing that to key opposing players. But I agree that he was a total non-factor tonight.
- bmeltzer


I saw at least three time where he skated past scrums in the corners, where the Caps were outnumbered or where he could have given them a man advantage...just skated right past each time, didn't even stop waiting for the puck to pop out.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

May 12 @ 10:10 PM ET
They lost the series because of that game.
- stveshdy


As we saw with Game 3 against the Devils, you simply can't give away a game like that.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 12 @ 10:12 PM ET


ugh

my neighbor who loves to gush about how i got him into hockey is going to see a cup after being such a HUGE FAN for 8 months.


can't wait to hear about all the time.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 12 @ 10:13 PM ET
I saw at least three time where he skated past scrums in the corners, where the Caps were outnumbered or where he could have given them a man advantage...just skated right past each time, didn't even stop waiting for the puck to pop out.
- Jsaquella


Hes a clown. Somewhere along the way he lost his heart.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:14 PM ET
ugh

my neighbor who loves to gush about how i got him into hockey is going to see a cup after being such a HUGE FAN for 8 months.


can't wait to hear about all the time.

- Don'tForgetTocchet


Make him a shirt that says "Fan since October of 2011"
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 12 @ 10:17 PM ET
This is like death to watch, NYR vs NJ. Winner goes to the SCF. Donkey nuts.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 12 @ 10:20 PM ET
How about the high sticking penalty by Backstrom on a pp where the Caps looked about as disinterested as could be.

I admire what Hunter has done, but they cannot have Semin and Backstrom and Green and AO on the same team. Thats too many $ for too little big game production.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 12 @ 10:21 PM ET
This is like death to watch, NYR vs NJ. Winner goes to the SCF. Donkey nuts.
- stveshdy



i'm gonna puke. shoulda been us vs rags then us vs. kings


PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 12 @ 10:22 PM ET
i'm gonna puke. shoulda been us vs rags then us vs. kings



- Don'tForgetTocchet



Thank your stars we drew the Pens. We would have been easily bounced against almost everybody else except perhaps Florida.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:24 PM ET
i'm gonna puke. shoulda been us vs rags then us vs. kings



- Don'tForgetTocchet


So we could have been swept? That would have been just as much if not more torture then the 5 games it took the Devils to beat the Flyers.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 12 @ 10:32 PM ET
If timonen retires will he count against the cap? In other words... was his deal an over 35 deal like prongers?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:33 PM ET
If timonen retires will he count against the cap? In other words... was his deal an over 35 deal like prongers?
- RooNosHockey


No he signed his 6 year deal when he was 32 if he retired (probably not likely) it would come off the cap.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 12 @ 10:37 PM ET
No he signed his 6 year deal when he was 32 if he retired (probably not likely) it would come off the cap.
- ob18


My friend said he heard espn say timonen might retire... I know its espn.. but still... If Timonen does retire that would free up 6.5 mil. so Flyers could trade JVR for a defenseman, Sign Suter, and Maybe Pairse.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:42 PM ET
My friend said he heard espn say timonen might retire... I know its espn.. but still... If Timonen does retire that would free up 6.5 mil. so Flyers could trade JVR for a defenseman, Sign Suter, and Maybe Pairse.
- RooNosHockey


It's far too early to know what he'll do. The options for what the Flyers can do are endless. I for one won't or will try not to come up with scenarios it will just drive you insane and end up getting in the area of can only be done in a video game.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 12 @ 10:42 PM ET
My friend said he heard espn say timonen might retire... I know its espn.. but still... If Timonen does retire that would free up 6.5 mil. so Flyers could trade JVR for a defenseman, Sign Suter, and Maybe Pairse.
- RooNosHockey



timonen isn't retiring

book it
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 12 @ 10:43 PM ET
timonen isn't retiring

book it

- Don'tForgetTocchet


At first I was like "oh no" But.... If he does.... Thats 6.5 million........
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:45 PM ET
timonen isn't retiring

book it

- Don'tForgetTocchet


If they do anything they'll make moves to like Bill suggest to keep him while making moves for when his contract is up after another season.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 12 @ 10:48 PM ET
My friend said he heard espn say timonen might retire... I know its espn.. but still... If Timonen does retire that would free up 6.5 mil. so Flyers could trade JVR for a defenseman, Sign Suter, and Maybe Pairse.
- RooNosHockey


He's not retiring this summer. However, it sounds like there's at least a chance he'll miss the start of next season.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 12 @ 10:49 PM ET
He's not retiring this summer. However, it sounds like there's at least a chance he'll miss the start of next season.
- bmeltzer


That's if they even start the season on time.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 12 @ 10:57 PM ET
Timonen would absolutely hate this idea, I'm sure.

However, I think it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for him if he was put on LTIR for the first half of the season after his surgery/surgeries.

Give him all the time he needs to heal and then play in the second half and the playoffs. Might help him to be healthier come playoff time while still having enough games in to be able to handle the pace of the playoffs; remember that he'll turn 38 before the end of next season and has a lot of mileage on him.

It would also give the Flyers a mighty roomy LTIR allowance for the first half of the season -- remember that in the playoffs there is no cap because the players are not paid for the playoffs.

Just a thought. Obviously if Timonen is healthy enough to start the season on time, he'll play. But if there's any doubt about his rehab timetable, why not give him more time and also give the team several added months of cap flexibility as well?

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