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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
Honestly, Is he gonna grade Ron Wilson an F quadruple minus? That's the only thing that would explain it at this point.
- Morris

You may not have been around here when the first grades come out, but we all agreed (with the exception of one poster) that an F is an F, and there is no such thing as an F+ or F-.

Please do not open that can of worms again.

My sides still hurt from laughing so much.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:14 PM ET
obviously


but seriously no one was 'great' in the 2nd half of last season. While the forward group could use an overhaul, the defense doesn't need to change that much (atleast in my opinion). Komi is useless, Schenn I'd move if the right offer came around, but between the guys we have and the guys in the system we should be fine

- Nastradamus

I like Gardiner and Blacker, so if both play well enough to make the team this summer, what becomes of Franson and Komisarek?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
I like Gardiner and Blacker, so if both play well enough to make the team this summer, what becomes of Franson and Komisarek?
- shinebox

Franson gets jettisoned to the Marlies. He may get picked up on waivers, but that's not even 100%.

Komi isn't going anywhere. Not by trade, not by demotion. So just accept it.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

May 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
I like Gardiner and Blacker, so if both play well enough to make the team this summer, what becomes of Franson and Komisarek?
- shinebox

Don't you ever get tired talking about this sh*t?
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:15 PM ET
You may not have been around here when the first grades come out, but we all agreed (with the exception of one poster) that an F is an F, and there is no such thing as an F+ or F-.

Please do not open that can of worms again.

My sides still hurt from laughing so much.

- Atomic Wedgie

Were you here for the Kadri put on 20+ lbs of muscle this summer fiasco? Now there was 3 entire threads of gut busting entertainment...
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 14 @ 5:16 PM ET
You may not have been around here when the first grades come out, but we all agreed (with the exception of one poster) that an F is an F, and there is no such thing as an F+ or F-.

Please do not open that can of worms again.

My sides still hurt from laughing so much.

- Atomic Wedgie

sorry
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:16 PM ET
Don't you ever get tired talking about this sh*t?
- Flyfreaky

Sorry fat man, i am a hockey enthusiast. I like discussing hockey. It is indeed the sole purpose of this magnificent site to which we frequent.
Nastradamus
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Word., ON
Joined: 03.09.2009

May 14 @ 5:16 PM ET
I like Gardiner and Blacker, so if both play well enough to make the team this summer, what becomes of Franson and Komisarek?
- shinebox


imo most likely ahl demotions. Franson could be claimed on waivers, but noone is going to claim Komi

Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 14 @ 5:16 PM ET
Don't you ever get tired talking about this sh*t?
- Flyfreaky

Yes
Nastradamus
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Word., ON
Joined: 03.09.2009

May 14 @ 5:17 PM ET
Don't you ever get tired talking about this sh*t?
- Flyfreaky


this poop is LIFE!!!!


shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:17 PM ET
Franson gets jettisoned to the Marlies. He may get picked up on waivers, but that's not even 100%.

Komi isn't going anywhere. Not by trade, not by demotion. So just accept it.

- Atomic Wedgie

Got to believe Franson could interest a few teams, maybe Edmonton? Think the Isles would pick up Komi for cheap?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:18 PM ET
You may not have been around here when the first grades come out, but we all agreed (with the exception of one poster) that an F is an F, and there is no such thing as an F+ or F-.

Please do not open that can of worms again.

My sides still hurt from laughing so much.

- Atomic Wedgie


Was Komisarek as bad as Schenn?

Say they are again so I can have a good laugh.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:19 PM ET
Got to believe Franson could interest a few teams, maybe Edmonton? Think the Isles would pick up Komi for cheap?
- shinebox


Franson would definitely get picked up. If the Leafs had enough interest in him to take on Lombardi to make it work, somebody out there would gladly pick him up. I wouldn't be surprised if Nashville took him back.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:20 PM ET
imo most likely ahl demotions. Franson could be claimed on waivers, but noone is going to claim Komi
- Nastradamus


Komisarek has a NMC. Can't be waived or traded unless he says so.

Remember all the talk about Burke not being a man who hands out "entitlement" and NTC/NMC like JFJ?

Yeah...
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:21 PM ET
Were you here for the Kadri put on 20+ lbs of muscle this summer fiasco? Now there was 3 entire threads of gut busting entertainment...
- shinebox


Kadri was too big last season. He had to lose that weight to be faster.

shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:23 PM ET
Franson would definitely get picked up. If the Leafs had enough interest in him to take on Lombardi to make it work, somebody out there would gladly pick him up. I wouldn't be surprised if Nashville took him back.
- Unholy_Goalie

They had best do something, could lose Suter and or Weber soon enough....
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:26 PM ET
They had best do something, could lose Suter and or Weber soon enough....
- shinebox


If they want to sustain hockey in Nashville, they have to bite the bullet and sign at least one of them to one of those huge 10 year deals. At the very worst, the market has a guy that they can put on a pedestal and generate interest off of over the long haul.

Fact is though, that franchise is still hurting. They're 20th in attendance, who knows what their ticket prices are like and committing to big long term contracts is a huge risk for them. They already have Rinne but they need Weber.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:26 PM ET
Kadri was too big last season. He had to lose that weight to be faster.


- Unholy_Goalie

And we're off....

shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:27 PM ET
If they want to sustain hockey in Nashville, they have to bite the bullet and sign at least one of them to one of those huge 10 year deals. At the very worst, the market has a guy that they can put on a pedestal and generate interest off of over the long haul.

Fact is though, that franchise is still hurting. They're 20th in attendance, who knows what their ticket prices are like and committing to big long term contracts is a huge risk for them. They already have Rinne but they need Weber.

- Unholy_Goalie

My guess is they will either sign them both or neither.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
My guess is they will either sign them both or neither.
- shinebox


It's up to the players. Other franchises can offer them the same money (actually more) and offer them a chance to win. Nashville just can't afford the horse AND the carriage.

The only way they can keep them both is if they take a huge financial risk, over a long period of time and both players are willing to become the pillars of the franchise. And on top of that, they have to pay to keep adding more players up front.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
Okay, admittedly you're not finished, but I've got a question about your methodology. Are you using standard academic letter grades? Are these grades normalized against the mean?

I'm confused: Your top 4 dmen scores a solid B and your top6 forwards score a B- (0.1 below a B). In fact, take Kulemin and Connolly out of the picture and you've got a group of forwards scoring a B+ so far.

How did this team come 26th? According to the grades so far, the conclusion would have to be bad goaltending. It wasn't great, but teams like TB, Chicago and Philadelphia had comparable tandems in terms of sv %, and their 7 shutouts puts them 8th in the league (behind 4 other teams with just one more shutout each I might add).

Not trolling, just asking.

- Morris


Damn refs.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
Sorry fat man, i am a hockey enthusiast. I like discussing hockey. It is indeed the sole purpose of this magnificent site to which we frequent.
- shinebox

GTFO
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
It's up to the players. Other franchises can offer them the same money (actually more) and offer them a chance to win. Nashville just can't afford the horse AND the carriage.

The only way they can keep them both is if they take a huge financial risk, over a long period of time and both players are willing to become the pillars of the franchise.

- Unholy_Goalie

Like i said, this is the only way i see them getting signed, i believe that happens or they are both gone. Maybe someone offer sheets Weber and Nashville takes the compensation? What would be the compensation for him anyways?
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:35 PM ET
Damn refs.
- Oilhab

L8.
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 14 @ 5:35 PM ET
GTFO
- Oilhab

And no.
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