July 1st should be a very telling and fun day.
- Beaver-Warrior

July 1st is always one of my favourite hockey days of the year. Living in Canada we always have the day off work so I can focus on following the hockey signings.

JJ, could or should the Hawks explore acquiring Paul Stasny from Colorado? Ive heard the Avs are very much exploring shipping his contract out. If we could convince the to take Frolik and a top pick, should we do it? I know he isnt the IDEAL 2nd center for the hawks like a Getzlaf, but guy is definitely a premier setup man, and probably one of the most underrated passers in the game. The hawks would only have stasnys contract for 2 more years, and providing Hossa is healthy, those are 2 critical years of Hossa's prime
- FourFeathers773

Sharp + Frolik OR Hammer (salary) + pick OR whatever prospect they want and done

Sign Suter, win Stanley Cup

Someone else might have posted this already... but, sounds like the NHL has or is informing the NHLPA that it's terminating the CBA.

Should be a "fun" summer now...

Someone else might have posted this already... but, sounds like the NHL has or is informing the NHLPA that it's terminating the CBA.

Should be a "fun" summer now...
- shruew

That was in the last thread. It just sounds like it's a procedural thing and nothing out of the norm.

There's nothing to panic over...yet.

I'd prefer Jones over Moss, but is the Hawks target Moss then I can't see them going over Jones. Moss would be a more cost effective option, but I doubt he would be as good either.

What about Jim Slater? I know he's popular in the Jets organization, but he would be an ideal 4th line center who could spend some time on the PK too.
- DarthKane

There's a guy I wouldn't mind having on the 4th line.

We'll see if he's still a Jet come July 1st.

Sharp + Frolik OR Hammer (salary) + pick OR whatever prospect they want and done

Sign Suter, win Stanley Cup
- fattybeef

The current front office mess isn't going to trade Sharp.

Perhaps they could. They have $20 million in cap space. I figure if Lidstrom re-signs, he'll be a minimum $5 million dollar salary. I'm betting Suter will get $7 million wherever he goes. That's $12 million right there, maybe $13 million before it's all said and done.

That still leaves them $7 million or $8 million to either re-sign or fill holes for Holmstrom, Hudler, Quincey, Abelkader, Helm and possibly a back up goalie. Re-signing Quincey and Hudler could possibly eat up most of that $7 million. Abelkader and Helm would probably get modest raises. If Holmstrom doesn't retire, he could come back on the cheap. In all, they might lose a couple of guys out of that group.

This is not figuring in an adjustment to the salary cap. If the cap goes up, they could have the room to pull it off.
- EKolb13

Couldn't DET just Start Suter large salary next year.. and sign him to a smaller cap hit this year?

If Carle doesn't get resigned by Philly in the next month or so it's because the flyers are eying Suter. Carle is willing to take a discount to stay in Philly from what I've heard and there is no one but Suter better in FA. I know you say location will be a part of the decision.... But my guess is its not THE biggest part of the decision. I'm guessing but the promise of a first pairing in Philly will be enticing. The promise of big money and playing alongside youngsters like Giroux, Couturier, Schenn, Simmonds, Voracek, JVR, etc will be pretty enticing. I'm not saying the hawks are not going to get Suter.... I'm saying watch out for the flyers because they have a lot to offer which could be more important than location.

Edit: I should add that I hope Suter stays in Nashville.... And Weber is the one Philly lays big money on. It will be interesting to watch the next couple months
- moylander

It was stated by the media that unless something happens Carle cannot be resigned by Philly until July 1st. Because of a “salary tagging” rule, which precludes teams from exceeding the current salary cap before next season’s cap ceiling is announced.

So if the Flyers want to do anything with their roster before then they basically have to make some sort of moves involving their contracts that extend into next season.

http://www.thehockeynews....288-Pony-up-for-Nash.html

The current front office mess isn't going to trade Sharp.
- EKolb13

Dare to dream.

Dare to dream.
- Ogilthorpe2

I'm more afraid of what the front office mess is dreaming.

Couldn't DET just Start Suter large salary next year.. and sign him to a smaller cap hit this year?
- victorymc98

If they give him a one year deal with a lower salary, with the promise of a huge contract extention after that, then that idea could fly.

I don't see any player, even Suter willing to do somethng like that.

The current front office mess isn't going to trade Sharp.
- EKolb13

I agree, Sharp isn't going anywhere. I don't know what peoples fixation with trading a core player is. Stan needs to build the support around the core group not trade it away. Toews, Kane (yes Kane), Sharp, Hossa, Bolland, Keith and Seabrook are not going anywhere. We've won with these guys in the past and we can win again with them. Stan needs to do a better job in finding players who are good at certain roles (i.e. Jim Slater on the PK). You can take the attitude of "we'll take less team's top players and put them in depth roles on our club", it doesn't work that way. Look a Frolik, he was a good top 6 forward in Florida, but that didn't translate into success in Chicago's bottom six. Identify your needs and find players who accel in that capacity. I know I'm over-simplifying things, but Stan hasn't caught on to to this concept yet.

I'm more afraid of what the front office mess is dreaming.
- EKolb13

How can we bring back and rejuvenate the careers of brunette and o'donnell.............

John Jaeckel: Rumors!
- John Jaeckel

I think you'd be more pleasantly surprised with Al Montoya than you'd think. He wasn't really the same after the concussion but he also got limited playing time. He's one of those goalies that really thrives on a good number of consecutive starts.

How can we bring back and rejuvenate the careers of brunette and o'donnell.............
- Wowo2282

I just threw up in my mouth reading this.

I just threw up in my mouth reading this.
- EKolb13

I'm still expecting Q to announce that Brunette is the new assistant coach.

I agree, Sharp isn't going anywhere. I don't know what peoples fixation with trading a core player is. Stan needs to build the support around the core group not trade it away. Toews, Kane (yes Kane), Sharp, Hossa, Bolland, Keith and Seabrook are not going anywhere. We've won with these guys in the past and we can win again with them. Stan needs to do a better job in finding players who are good at certain roles (i.e. Jim Slater on the PK). You can take the attitude of "we'll take less team's top players and put them in depth roles on our club", it doesn't work that way. Look a Frolik, he was a good top 6 forward in Florida, but that didn't translate into success in Chicago's bottom six. Identify your needs and find players who accel in that capacity. I know I'm over-simplifying things, but Stan hasn't caught on to to this concept yet.
- DarthKane

Think the majority of people are not pleased with his 2 million dollar increase in cap hit next year while being on the wrong side of 30. Will give him the benefit of the doubt, he was playing with a busted wrist the majority of the season and is one of the few snipers the hawks got, also layed the body on a lot of guys in the phoenix series, but didnt contribute offesnively. But that cap hit really bothers me

If they give him a one year deal with a lower salary, with the promise of a huge contract extention after that, then that idea could fly.

I don't see any player, even Suter willing to do somethng like that.
- EKolb13

What I mean is, and I don't know if this is allowed

6 year 36 million deal for instance.. Bare with me here..

Year 1- 2 million
Year 2- 8 Million
Year 3 8 million
Year 4 6 milliom
Year 5 6 million
Year 6- 6 million

I'm still expecting Q to announce that Brunette is the new assistant coach.
- DarthKane

Rumor has it, is that hes going to be a player/coach. Kinda like what the sox wanted konerko to do at first. Bruno will insert himself on the first unit power play while drawing up plays for the power play on the bench

I agree, Sharp isn't going anywhere. I don't know what peoples fixation with trading a core player is. Stan needs to build the support around the core group not trade it away. Toews, Kane (yes Kane), Sharp, Hossa, Bolland, Keith and Seabrook are not going anywhere. We've won with these guys in the past and we can win again with them. Stan needs to do a better job in finding players who are good at certain roles (i.e. Jim Slater on the PK). You can take the attitude of "we'll take less team's top players and put them in depth roles on our club", it doesn't work that way. Look a Frolik, he was a good top 6 forward in Florida, but that didn't translate into success in Chicago's bottom six. Identify your needs and find players who accel in that capacity. I know I'm over-simplifying things, but Stan hasn't caught on to to this concept yet.
- DarthKane

"We've won with these guys in the past and we can win again with them."

Isn't this a loose description of insanity? Trying the same thing over again and expecting different results?

http://twitpic.com/9lsr4w

the NHL network is making a habit of these "errors"
- FourFeathers773

Well, that's 7 FO wins per sh1t - should put him in the top 3 in the league, I would think.

July 1st is always one of my favourite hockey days of the year. Living in Canada we always have the day off work so I can focus on following the hockey signings.
- DarthKane

I'm in Spain at that time every year. I have spotty internet and an obsessive personality so it starts to drive me insane! It's really like Christmas morning to me...and to think, it wasn't that long ago when I had to blink twice before confirming that Hossa and Madden had signed with the Hawks. What a day that was! I hope to find a Suter under the tree this year and a trade that nets a top 6 PF/C.

What I mean is, and I don't know if this is allowed

6 year 36 million deal for instance.. Bare with me here..

Year 1- 2 million
Year 2- 8 Million
Year 3 8 million
Year 4 6 milliom
Year 5 6 million
Year 6- 6 million
- victorymc98

It would still be a 6 million dollar cap hit. What someone else suggested is if he signed a one year deal at say 4.5 million to help financially fit/ keep lidstrom around for one more year then the wings would guarantee a 6 year deal after that. Its all about the cap hit and not whether contracts are front loaded or back loaded

July 1 is going to be fun to watch. I wonder how fast the Suter deal gets done. I would think Lidstrom announces play or retire first, out of courtesy.

What I mean is, and I don't know if this is allowed

6 year 36 million deal for instance.. Bare with me here..

Year 1- 2 million
Year 2- 8 Million
Year 3 8 million
Year 4 6 milliom
Year 5 6 million
Year 6- 6 million
- victorymc98

The cap hit is the total salary divided evenly by the number of years on the deal.

For example, if Suter were to sign for 6 years at $36 million, his cap hit would be $6 million.

I'm sure you could spread out the actual salary like you've shown, but the cap hit would be the constant average.