He needed a pic, because he obviously hasn't seen it firsthand in some time.
- tangent_man

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did JVR get traded yet?

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did JVR get traded yet?
- phi1671

In over 18 open hockey last weekend they got the 5 foot ginger kid from Australia to play goal in exchange for him.

In over 18 open hockey last weekend they got the 5 foot ginger kid from Australia to play goal in exchange for him.
- mayorofangrytown

and JVR had so much potential

I realize that many of you are questionable of Nash's cap hit, but I really like the idea of acquiring him.

JvR is a player that I really like, but if I think the aforementioned all-star, who is still young himself and just entering his prime, could blossom into a 90-100 point player playing alongside a superstar center like Giroux. Nash has NEVER played with an even remotely above average center, so I really do feel as though he could reach his own full potential if given the chance to succeed in Philadelphia.

Now, people are going to say that we need to fix the defense first. However, if we dealt say JvR, Read/Bob (or both instead of a pick), and a draft pick for Nash, then I feel as though the club could address some of its team defensive deficiencies by acquiring veteran grinder FA's, particularly a big 4th line center and a winger. I don't really have a problem with our defenseman on paper as a unit (so long as we chose to re-sign Carle), but clearly the team defense needs to improve next season, and a lot of our problems could be attributed to our forwards.

Personally, I think it's imperative that both Couts and Talbot see time in the top 9 next season too.

Here's how the lineup would look:

Nash-Giroux-Hartnell
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Couts-Simmonds
Wellwood-FA 4th line center-FA vet (Moen perhaps?)
Rinaldo

Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Timonen
Lilja-Meszy
Gus

Bryz-Bob or FA, cheap replacement

Thoughts?

I realize that many of you are questionable of Nash's cap hit, but I really like the idea of acquiring him.

JvR is a player that I really like, but if I think the aforementioned all-star, who is still young himself and just entering his prime, could blossom into a 90-100 point player playing alongside a superstar center like Giroux. Nash has NEVER played with an even remotely above average center, so I really do feel as though he could reach his own full potential if given the chance to succeed in Philadelphia.

Now, people are going to say that we need to fix the defense first. However, if we dealt say JvR, Read/Bob (or both instead of a pick), and a draft pick for Nash, then I feel as though the club could address some of its team defensive deficiencies by acquiring veteran grinder FA's, particularly a big 4th line center and a winger. I don't really have a problem with our defenseman on paper as a unit (so long as we chose to re-sign Carle), but clearly the team defense needs to improve next season, and a lot of our problems could be attributed to our forwards.

Personally, I think it's imperative that both Couts and Talbot see time in the top 9 next season too.

Here's how the lineup would look:

Nash-Giroux-Hartnell
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Couts-Simmonds
Wellwood-FA 4th line center-FA vet (Moen perhaps?)
Rinaldo

Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Timonen
Lilja-Meszy
Gus

Bryz-Bob or FA, cheap replacement

Thoughts?
- LordStanley88

- phi1671

Just curious, but why not?

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Just curious, but why not?
- LordStanley88

JVR is young versus Nash and his cap hit. You trade JVR and you are sending the wrong message. Sign long term and you get traded. IMO, you give him another year and address it next year. We shall see...
I'm all for getting rid of Bob and bringing in a cheaper back up, a veteran back up.
they have enough cap space to get things done....

I realize that many of you are questionable of Nash's cap hit, but I really like the idea of acquiring him.

JvR is a player that I really like, but if I think the aforementioned all-star, who is still young himself and just entering his prime, could blossom into a 90-100 point player playing alongside a superstar center like Giroux. Nash has NEVER played with an even remotely above average center, so I really do feel as though he could reach his own full potential if given the chance to succeed in Philadelphia.

Now, people are going to say that we need to fix the defense first. However, if we dealt say JvR, Read/Bob (or both instead of a pick), and a draft pick for Nash, then I feel as though the club could address some of its team defensive deficiencies by acquiring veteran grinder FA's, particularly a big 4th line center and a winger. I don't really have a problem with our defenseman on paper as a unit (so long as we chose to re-sign Carle), but clearly the team defense needs to improve next season, and a lot of our problems could be attributed to our forwards.

Personally, I think it's imperative that both Couts and Talbot see time in the top 9 next season too.

Here's how the lineup would look:

Nash-Giroux-Hartnell
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Couts-Simmonds
Wellwood-FA 4th line center-FA vet (Moen perhaps?)
Rinaldo

Coburn-Grossman
Carle-Timonen
Lilja-Meszy
Gus

Bryz-Bob or FA, cheap replacement

Thoughts?
- LordStanley88

I do like Nash but I believe his cap hit is 7.8 (?). What is the cap situation on your roster? Briere is the guy that has to go.

JVR is young versus Nash and his cap hit. You trade JVR and you are sending the wrong message. Sign long term and you get traded. IMO, you give him another year and address it next year. We shall see...
I'm all for getting rid of Bob and bringing in a cheaper back up, a veteran back up.
they have enough cap space to get things done....
- phi1671

Right, but what if things don't workout with JvR? Nash isn't going to be available next off-season, and this is a rare opportunity to bring in an elite scoring winger to put on the 1st line. Financially, I believe we could make it fit too.

I do like Nash but I believe his cap hit is 7.8 (?). What is the cap situation on your roster? Briere is the guy that has to go.
- 12,9 and 22

I will post it momentarily.

I think we all know that Briere isn't being moved.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Jakub Voracek ($3.250m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Samuel Pahlsson ($1.800m) / Travis Moen ($1.200m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Matt Carle ($5.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,221,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster):- $3,921,944

In short, it fits. And that's counting Schenn's bonus hit.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Jakub Voracek ($3.250m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Samuel Pahlsson ($1.800m) / Travis Moen ($1.200m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Matt Carle ($5.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,221,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster):- $3,921,944
- LordStanley88

How about we drop Carle and pick up Suter?

JVR is young versus Nash and his cap hit. You trade JVR and you are sending the wrong message. Sign long term and you get traded. IMO, you give him another year and address it next year. We shall see...
I'm all for getting rid of Bob and bringing in a cheaper back up, a veteran back up.
they have enough cap space to get things done....
- phi1671

What wrong message? Accepting a very generous offer from one of the best organizations in the league. Getting dealt is part of the game.

I will post it momentarily.

I think we all know that Briere isn't being moved.
- LordStanley88

Why?

Ill never understand wanting to trade for overpaid veterans.

Why?
- 12,9 and 22

NMC
Cap hit
34 goals, 68 pts in 2011 to 16 goals, 49 pts last year

In no particular order.

A lot of folks just want to give up on the guy.

I remember hearing a lot of the same knocks about John LeClair, and JvR has much better stats at age 22 than LeClair did.

A lot of times people forget that JvR's developmental path was not the same as a guy like Sean Couturier. Couturier's been playing against higher levels of competition, not going through NJ high schools and the USDT program that JvR took.

It's easy to be frustrated by JvR's slow development and inconsistent nature. I'm also not completely against trading him in the right move, but I think he's got a lot of value around the league. Despite the significant cap hit, he's still a 6'3" 220 lb winger who has a 20+ goal season at age 22
- Jsaquella

His game could be better if he used his size to his advantage but i'm also not one to jump and say move him unless it's a great return. Even then I'd hesitate.

Nick Cousins ‏@Cous27
Congrats to my boy @derekmathers on signing with the Flyers today. #wellearned #roomies #bullpen

NMC
Cap hit
34 goals, 68 pts in 2011 to 16 goals, 49 pts last year

In no particular order.
- 77rams

I was curious as to why he felt Briere wasn't going anywhere. If he was unmovable or that he was too valuable to move. I don't think they can win a Cup with Briere as the 2nd line center. Homer needs to send him somewhere. Any return would be good. Slats was able to move Gomez so there's always hope.

oh no, not rick nash rumors.



in order to take on his contract, the jackets would have to include the second pick in the draft and we all know there's no way they do that

Nick Cousins ‏@Cous27
Congrats to my boy @derekmathers on signing with the Flyers today. #wellearned #roomies #bullpen
- flyerscup2011

Next up in the who will fill the Shelley role in the future.

Next up in the who will fill the Shelley role in the future.
- ob18

yea, i heard he really knows how to throw some knuckles

Scores the winner as Slovakia Eliminates Canada from IIHF Tournament.
- flyer_nutter

And now you play the Czechs. Should be a heck of a game. Too bad it's the semifinal.