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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Woah! How long was that bann?
- kgrpitt

Who said it was a ban?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Listen here, you aren't the only penguin poster that gets along (to an extent) with the enemy. . . haha

Do you all think Carle will be back? Do you want him back and at what price?

- kgrpitt

Maybe he plans to go play for his brother in Green Bay?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
Close enough...

The report from Columbus was lazy, uninterested, no drive. He was pretty much the opposite for us. I want him on this team for a long time.

- FLYERSROCK!


Yep, kind of like calling a Canadian a Mexican.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
And the next day you were evicted for your actions the previous night?
- canadianpenfan



No but I did move out as soon as my lease expired so i could get real cable
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Who said it was a ban?
- FLYERSROCK!


Fair enough. However, you haven't said it wasn't either. hah
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
No but I did move out as soon as my lease expired so i could get real cable
- nastyflyergirl


from JS the cable guy?
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
I think that he's already agreed to terms, and they're waiting for the new cap to come into effect to announce the deal. Bill Meltzer says it looks like it'll be just south of $5mm per
- Jsaquella

So no Suter?

I will say this: When Matt Carle is at his best, he IS the best dman on this team. But when he's bad, hes (frank)ing TERRIBLE, and noticibly too. I think thats a fair assessment.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Close enough...

The report from Columbus was lazy, uninterested, no drive. He was pretty much the opposite for us. I want him on this team for a long time.

- FLYERSROCK!



If you were playing hockey in Columbus, I would have to think that you would be lazy, uninterested and have no drive as well. It certainly applied to Carter. That place is a black hole of hockey H E double hockey sticks.


If Voracek can ever find a finish, he will be a force. He backs off the defense with his skating like no other player on the team. And I agree with Bill, sometimes I had to make sure I saw the number correctly or I would confuse him with Jagr.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Yep, kind of like calling a Canadian a Mexican.
- Jsaquella

kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Maybe he plans to go play for his brother in Green Bay?
- bodiva88


So that's how its gonna be. I see.

PS: POD in Philadelphia is great. Just went there a few days ago.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
Fair enough. However, you haven't said it wasn't either. hah
- kgrpitt

I have been busy with alot of stuff. Dont get too excited, I wont be around much.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
from JS the cable guy?
- phi1671


Not unless she lives in Cape May County
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
So no Suter?

I will say this: When Matt Carle is at his best, he IS the best dman on this team. But when he's bad, hes (frank)ing TERRIBLE, and noticibly too. I think thats a fair assessment.

- FLYERSROCK!


Suter is better than Carle, but he's not worth $2mm more per year than Carle. It doesn't mean that they won't go after Suter, though.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
If you were playing hockey in Columbus, I would have to think that you would be lazy, uninterested and have no drive as well. It certainly applied to Carter. That place is a black hole of hockey H E double hockey sticks.


If Voracek can ever find a finish, he will be a force. He backs off the defense with his skating like no other player on the team. And I agree with Bill, sometimes I had to make sure I saw the number correctly or I would confuse him with Jagr.

- MBFlyerfan

For once 2Real was right... the kid is a stud, and is just as good as Carter (I know Carter had a hatrick 2 games ago).
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 18 @ 11:31 AM ET
So no Suter?

I will say this: When Matt Carle is at his best, he IS the best dman on this team. But when he's bad, hes (frank)ing TERRIBLE, and noticibly too. I think thats a fair assessment.

- FLYERSROCK!

i think the flyers guy is weber and i also think they will sign justin schultz too
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Suter is better than Carle, but he's not worth $2mm more per year than Carle. It doesn't mean that they won't go after Suter, though.
- Jsaquella

I agree. I think Detroit will pay Suter 7 million, and Philly wont go that high.

Itd be real nice if we could get a new CBA with +5-7 mill on the cap. That would be a nice dream come true...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
They must be Philly fans, too.

That's why it's such an entertaining sport. Anything can happen.

- Jsaquella

It's not a sport... It's a slaughter house and should be abolished.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:33 AM ET
I agree. I think Detroit will pay Suter 7 million, and Philly wont go that high.

Itd be real nice if we could get a new CBA with +5-7 mill on the cap. That would be a nice dream come true...

- FLYERSROCK!


The cap is going to be near $69mm. After re-signing Carle & Voracek, the Flyers will have about $8mm in space during the season.

The trouble is during the summer, when Pronger and Walker count against the cap.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:35 AM ET
It's not a sport... It's a slaughter house and should be abolished.
- mayorofangrytown


Dirty hippie
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
I agree. I think Detroit will pay Suter 7 million, and Philly wont go that high.

Itd be real nice if we could get a new CBA with +5-7 mill on the cap. That would be a nice dream come true...

- FLYERSROCK!

If Suter only get 7 from Detroit he'll stay in Nashville. Someone will offer him more than that I think. How often do those kind of Dmen come to UFA and look at the contracts they've gotten.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
It's not a sport... It's a slaughter house and should be abolished.
- mayorofangrytown



so is Greyhound racing
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:36 AM ET
The cap is going to be near $69mm. After re-signing Carle & Voracek, the Flyers will have about $8mm in space during the season.

The trouble is during the summer, when Pronger and Walker count against the cap.

- Jsaquella

Wow. Thatd be awesome.
And what happens IF you go over the 10% cap limit over the summer? Or whats the percentage you're allowed to go over? Its 10%, isnt it? And that'd be 6.9 mill...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:37 AM ET
Dirty hippie
- Jsaquella

I bathe daily and I ditched the tie-dye in 2005.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
If Suter only get 7 from Detroit he'll stay in Nashville. Someone will offer him more than that I think. How often do those kind of Dmen come to UFA and look at the contracts they've gotten.
- mayorofangrytown

I believe @ 7 mill thatd make him tied for 4th highest paid dman in the league? Behind Weber, Campbell and Chara, tied with Doughty? That seems about right to me, 7 mill.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
so is Greyhound racing
- phi1671

It's just a step below dog fighting when it comes to the treatment of the animals as stock.
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