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kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
Though Neal is 2 years older and followed a different path to the nhl (OHL versus NCAA) it is not that far of a stretch to compare the two otherwise. Ill be happy if JVR scores 25-30 goals this upcoming season. I don't think that is out of the question at all.
- MBFlyerfan


He scored 20 already right? So I wouldn't think 25-30 is out of the questions by any means. Any news on how his foot was after the playoffs? Has it fallen off? hah. He was relatively health before this year.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
He scored 20 already right? So I wouldn't think 25-30 is out of the questions by any means. Any news on how his foot was after the playoffs? Has it fallen off? hah. He was relatively health before this year.
- kgrpitt


Just by the way he played when he came back I would doubt that any of his injuries were fully healed.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
Though Neal is 2 years older and followed a different path to the nhl (OHL versus NCAA) it is not that far of a stretch to compare the two otherwise. Ill be happy if JVR scores 25-30 goals this upcoming season. I don't think that is out of the question at all.
- MBFlyerfan


He has all the talent to do it and can be a dominate player. Would like to see him be that type of player on a consistent basis (and stay injury free).
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 18 @ 1:43 PM ET
He scored 20 already right? So I wouldn't think 25-30 is out of the questions by any means. Any news on how his foot was after the playoffs? Has it fallen off? hah. He was relatively health before this year.
- kgrpitt


Hell be fine. Half of his injuries this year were faked to avoid being traded, anyway.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
Hell be fine. Half of his injuries this year were faked to avoid being traded, anyway.
- funmaster18


i think just the concussion was faked.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 18 @ 1:49 PM ET
Hell be fine. Half of his injuries this year were faked to avoid being traded, anyway.
- funmaster18


He didn't want to go to Toronto. Can't blame him.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
Hell be fine. Half of his injuries this year were faked to avoid being traded, anyway.
- funmaster18



I forgot about that conspiracy theory that was going around. Is it safe to say he will be injuried next January and February then?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 18 @ 2:02 PM ET
i think just the concussion was faked.

- MBFlyerfan

No, he had unrequired surgery just to make the broken foot thing seem real.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
No, he had unrequired surgery just to make the broken foot thing seem real.
- bodiva88


Wow, that is some hardcore dedication to not play so he doesn't get traded! If only JVR displayed that kind of commitment on the ice!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
He scored 20 already right? So I wouldn't think 25-30 is out of the questions by any means. Any news on how his foot was after the playoffs? Has it fallen off? hah. He was relatively health before this year.
- kgrpitt


JvR battled injuries almost the entire year. It's really being short sighted to think 2011-12 is a typical season for him.

It's not being too rough to demand more out of him, at least in terms of consistency...of course, I think he's going to end up playing with Giroux, so it should be easier.
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
[url="/blog.php?post_id=44485"]Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Can Flyers Sign Voracek to Multi-Year Deal?

I lost count of the number of times, the team was able to work the puck to a wide-open Voracek for a one-timer or snap shot either near the right point or at the hash marks in the right circle. Time after time, he'd flub the shot or drill it way wide of the net from a good shooting angle.

- bmeltzer


Do you know who else I noticed flubbing a ton of those kinds of shots this season? Voracek's idol/mentor...

FWIW I am on board with giving Jake a raise. His two-way play makes up for his poor shooting (which can only improve).
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
No, he had unrequired surgery just to make the broken foot thing seem real.
- bodiva88


and he had Bryz do it so that there was a good possibility it would never heal and he could remain a Flyer in perpetuity, eventually taking over Blair Betts coaching role.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
Do you know who else I noticed flubbing a ton of those kinds of shots this season? Voracek's idol/mentor...

FWIW I am on board with giving Jake a raise. His two-way play makes up for his poor shooting (which can only improve).

- Tartan69


I blame that on those piece of crap Combat sticks he uses. Just get a real stick already, would you.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
JvR battled injuries almost the entire year. It's really being short sighted to think 2011-12 is a typical season for him.

It's not being too rough to demand more out of him, at least in terms of consistency...of course, I think he's going to end up playing with Giroux, so it should be easier.

- Jsaquella


Yeah I wasn't saying he was injury prone by any means. He played 70 plus the two years previously. I thought he was going to have a third year like Girouxs. I am basing this off of Giroux having a awesome playoffs and followed that up with good 2010-2011 season and JVR did extremely well in 10-11 playoffs so I was thinking he would come out 11-12 and do well. This could have still happened if it weren't for the injuries.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Yeah I wasn't saying he was injury prone by any means. He played 70 plus the two years previously. I thought he was going to have a third year like Girouxs. I am basing this off of Giroux having a awesome playoffs and followed that up with good 2010-2011 season and JVR did extremely well in 10-11 playoffs so I was thinking he would come out 11-12 and do well. This could have still happened if it weren't for the injuries.
- kgrpitt


I meant Flyers fans that seem to dismiss his capabilities...but if he sucks this year, I'll trade him for Martin
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 18 @ 4:55 PM ET
I meant Flyers fans that seem to dismiss his capabilities...but if he sucks this year, I'll trade him for Martin
- Jsaquella




Bookmarked.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 18 @ 4:57 PM ET
I meant Flyers fans that seem to dismiss his capabilities...but if he sucks this year, I'll trade him for Martin
- Jsaquella


*bookmarks page* Just in case.



Edit: Canadian. . . Creepy.

I was looking for a good gif but lost motivation and its almost 5 so I am almost out of here.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
Bookmarked.
- canadianpenfan


No need. I'll trade him for Martin....Havlat
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 18 @ 5:06 PM ET
No need. I'll trade him for Martin....Havlat
- Jsaquella




No, no, we know what you meant. A man doesn't go back on his word, insinuated or not.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 18 @ 5:07 PM ET
No, no, we know what you meant. A man doesn't go back on his word, insinuated or not.
- canadianpenfan


Good thing I'm not a man of my word. I just told my wife I love her.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 18 @ 5:12 PM ET
Good thing I'm not a man of my word. I just told my wife I love her.
- Jsaquella



But at least you're on the computer and not dusting the furniture so it must have worked.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
Very true. Timonen likely retires, and if the new CBA eliminates the over 35 rule or changes it to allow the Flyers to drop Pronger's cap hit, that's $11mm or so in freed up cap room for summer signings. Add in the end of the Shelley and Walker deals and that's another $2.8mm in summer space.
- Jsaquella


Many dominoes could fall right if all happens.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 18 @ 5:36 PM ET
Good thing I'm not a man of my word. I just told my wife I love her.
- Jsaquella


pfft you married her for her money
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 18 @ 7:06 PM ET
Time for the Memorial Cup to watch draft prospect Griffin Reinhart & Henrik Samuelson of the Edmonton Oil Kings.

Both sons of former NHL players.
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