I think he'll be a 2nd pairing guy, maybe better if he continues his progression.

can play specialty teams too... he's a keeper, much like Gardiner is for the Leafs.
- robin_steele264

He's no drew doughty, but a 21 year old kid putting up 30 points while solid defensively iss nothing to sneer at. The guy keeps saying there were 40 of them, but all of 1 were younger.

He's no drew doughty, but a 21 year old kid putting up 30 points while solid defensively iss nothing to sneer at. The guy keeps saying there were 40 of them, but all of 1 were younger.
- prock

He's pretty good... just about the only Dman on the Leafs I like.

Gunnerson isnt bad.

I can't believe people actually think Petry>Gardiner, Petry has 1 more point in about 30 more games, he has a worse career plus minus and is two years older! There is not a single GM in the right mind that would take Petry over Gardiner. Why would a GM want an older, less effective and has proven throughout his career to be worse than Gardiner at every stage of development? Illogical.

I can't believe people actually think Petry>Gardiner, Petry has 1 more point in about 30 more games, he has a worse career plus minus and is two years older! There is not a single GM in the right mind that would take Petry over Gardiner. Why would a GM want an older, less effective and has proven throughout his career to be worse than Gardiner at every stage of development? Illogical.
- DepecheModer

Both had pretty good seasons last year, Gardiner is the smoother skater for sure, but Petry is bigger and more physical.

Both have a bright future in the league.

I can't believe people actually think Petry>Gardiner, Petry has 1 more point in about 30 more games, he has a worse career plus minus and is two years older! There is not a single GM in the right mind that would take Petry over Gardiner. Why would a GM want an older, less effective and has proven throughout his career to be worse than Gardiner at every stage of development? Illogical.
- DepecheModer

double post

I can't believe people actually think Petry>Gardiner, Petry has 1 more point in about 30 more games, he has a worse career plus minus and is two years older! There is not a single GM in the right mind that would take Petry over Gardiner. Why would a GM want an older, less effective and has proven throughout his career to be worse than Gardiner at every stage of development? Illogical.
- DepecheModer

I can't believe people actually think Petry>Gardiner, Petry has 1 more point in about 30 more games, he has a worse career plus minus and is two years older! There is not a single GM in the right mind that would take Petry over Gardiner. Why would a GM want an older, less effective and has proven throughout his career to be worse than Gardiner at every stage of development? Illogical.
- DepecheModer

Listen all I was saying is that based on LAST year Petry was the better dman. I think Gardiner will be very good. Everyone is trying to compare what we do not know yet.

Listen all I was saying is that based on LAST year Petry was the better dman. I think Gardiner will be very good. Everyone is trying to compare what we do not know yet.
- Tapdog

So essentially what your saying is that since Gardiner has only played one year in the NHL we can't determine if he's better or not? That would be like Leaf fans saying that Kessel is better than Segiun because he had more goals and points last year. When we all know Segiun is much more valuable. Tey only way to compare these players is to look at all the stages of their development.

So essentially what your saying is that since Gardiner has only played one year in the NHL we can't determine if he's better or not? That would be like Leaf fans saying that Kessel is better than Segiun because he had more goals and points last year. When we all know Segiun is much more valuable. Tey only way to compare these players is to look at all the stages of their development.
- DepecheModer

I take it reading comprehension isn't really your strong suit.

So essentially what your saying is that since Gardiner has only played one year in the NHL we can't determine if he's better or not? That would be like Leaf fans saying that Kessel is better than Segiun because he had more goals and points last year. When we all know Segiun is much more valuable. Tey only way to compare these players is to look at all the stages of their development.
- DepecheModer

Last year was Petry's first full year.

Biggest difference between them is that Oiler fans arent proclaiming Petry as a future Norris winner etc...

Just nice to see him developing and progressing into a good NHL'er.

I take it reading comprehension isn't really your strong suit.
- Starbuck

Explain to me then, what makes Petry the better defenseman?

Explain to me then, what makes Petry the better defenseman?
- DepecheModer

You ever watch him?

You ever watch him?
- robin_steele264

Yup, I just can't see how he is more valuable than Gardiner.

Explain to me then, what makes Petry the better defenseman?
- DepecheModer

Petry was the better d-man LAST YEAR we are not talking career potential of past performance.

Gardiner 75 games, 30 pts, -2, 52 hits, 90 blocked shots

Petry 73 games, 25 pts, -7, 126 hits, 126 blocked shots

Petry played 21:45 per game / 2:21 on the PK / 1:16 on the PP.

Gardiner played 21:35 per game / 1:45 on the PK / 1:58 on the PP.

These guys have similar numbers. Petry starts to separate himself from Gardiner when it comes to hits a blocked shots.

Yup, I just can't see how he is more valuable than Gardiner.
- DepecheModer

They have different styles... Petry is more physical, Gardiner is smoother.

Both will be good.

They have different styles... Petry is more physical, Gardiner is smoother.

Both will be good.
- robin_steele264

I agree, this is pointless

I agree, this is pointless
- Tapdog

Petry (as a Leaf) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gardiner (as a Oiler)

Gardiner (as a Leaf) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petry (as a Oiler)

Petry (as a Leaf) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gardiner (as a Oiler)

Gardiner (as a Leaf) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petry (as a Oiler)
- Starbuck

Unfortunately that is a very true statement.

Clouts---Time for a new blog.

Unfortunately that is a very true statement.

Clouts---Time for a new blog.
- Tapdog

No. Gardiner would be better on either team.

No. Gardiner would be better on either team.
- prock

why dont you ever hang out in Leafs threads? youd get along well with them.

No. Gardiner would be better on either team.
- prock

your missing his point.... who ever is on TO is a god

I agree, this is pointless
- Tapdog

Good god..Im sorry that I backread all of this car wreck.

your missing his point.... who ever is on TO is a god
- Killbot460

I think your undervaluing the rookie scoring leader for defenseman, just a tad.

your missing his point.... who ever is on TO is a god
- Killbot460

Have I said that. There is a long, long, long way between jeff petry and "a god". If you perceive someone saying better than petry is saying they're a god, then I suggest you might be the one with the issue.

I think your undervaluing the rookie scoring leader for defenseman, just a tad.
- DepecheModer

and I think you guys are overrating one good season just a tad. Most of us in edmonton have a 'wait and see' approach on Petry's solid season. In TO, Gardiner is already an untouchable in pretty much any trade scenario. Fans of both times should try and realize that both players had solid seasons in large part because the rest of the blueline sucked ass.

Didn't you guys just go through all this jumping the gun stuff with "Optimus Reim" not too long ago?