And now were comparing Gardiner to Petry?

Gardiner had a great rookie season. Great. Fine. Dandy. Dudes a former first round pick. He's always had the potential to be a top 4 dman. He's already proven through this season that he's an NHL player.

How he follows up on this season is important. Gardiner is not better then Petry after having ONE good season, the same way Petry isn't better or worse because he's only had half a dominant season.

Petry was a project dman from the get go. Gardiner was much more polished and destined for stardom.

Both of them are on track in their development. Petry is has progressed steadily throughout his entire career thus far. Most defensemen take the usual route Petry has in terms of a timetable. Gardiner's is accelerated because he was ahead of Petry in development at the same age.

Doesn't mean one's going to better then the other, and their not comparable on such a small sample size, nor do any of you take into consideration the teams/situation each player is in.

And no, looking at GF/GA and plus-minus doesn't (frank)ing count. Stop sucking nhl.com and hockeydb's Richard for 5 seconds. Theres way more that needs to be looked at in depth then just a few simple stats, and at a LATER DATE when both have had a bigger sample size of play at this level.

God (frank)ing damnit I hate all of you, save maybe 4 or 5.
- mochoson

I will always love you

I like dem taters

I will always love you
- Starbuck

Know how I know you're gay? You profess your manlove for Mochoson on hockeybuzz.

I will always love you
- Starbuck

You would be one of the 4 or 5 I'm referring to, btw

- Oil Tycoon

Hey! How did you get access to that! Kunis promised me she would only keep it for herself!

Hey! How did you get access to that! Kunis promised me she would only keep it for herself!
- laughs2907

Did you film that in Lahey's vagina? I would've figured it would be darker and have a whole lot more gerbils running wild in there.

Did you film that in Lahey's vagina? I would've figured it would be darker and have a whole lot more gerbils running wild in there.
- Ihatebrianburke

Your description is eerily accurate, however, I sometimes leave during the weekends.

Your description is eerily accurate, however, I sometimes leave during the weekends.
- laughs2907

Do you leave your fishy hole for Fort Mac like the rest of the newfs?

Do you leave your fishy hole for Fort Mac like the rest of the newfs?
- Ihatebrianburke

No, I only leave for university and prostitutes.

Know how I know you're gay? You profess your manlove for Mochoson on hockeybuzz.
- Ihatebrianburke

I said "no homo" out loud before I posted.

I said "no homo" out loud before I posted.
- Starbuck

That makes it extra homo

This is going to be a long, long off-season if were having conversations like these and the Finals didn't even start.
- mochoson

I thought pointless conversations (arguments) were the whole point of HB...
Renny iz bettr thun Wilson

Hey! How did you get access to that! Kunis promised me she would only keep it for herself!
- laughs2907

She always talked about how you like to suck on her toes for hours at a time.

Hey! How did you get access to that! Kunis promised me she would only keep it for herself!
- laughs2907

ah great its another meg episode, time to change the channel

Did you film that in Lahey's vagina? I would've figured it would be darker and have a whole lot more gerbils running wild in there.
- Ihatebrianburke

Close, but you have to move back a few inches to find the hole where lahey keeps his gerbils

She always talked about how you like to suck on her toes for hours at a time.
- Oil Tycoon

Indeed.