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optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
RNH already does that. Our PP was top 3. Not sure if you noticed that.

If you think Tambellini jumps all over that, you're as stupid as you claim him to be. Yakupov will be better than everyone else in the deal. To get that pick it will have to be an overpayment. Thats always the case. Thats why 1st overall rarely gets moved.

- TheTaoOfSemenko



I don't even want your 1st overall pick. I want Galchenyuck at 2. Sorry for not paying attention to the team who has sucked for years. Whenever I'm on here you guys are always female doging about how you need an offensive dman. Chew on that.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
At one point in time Chelios>>>Lidstrom.

My point is actually more valid because they are both dmen. You're comparing a dman to a winger. Can you ever manage to post in here and not be a complete retard?

- TheTaoOfSemenko

Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 19 @ 8:24 PM ET
Elaborate on Komisarek if you wouldn't mind?

I agree on Phaneuf though. He is underrated in the sense that he's, like you said, overrated. I hate being a Leaf fan and knowing exactly what you mean.

Carlyle will benefit this team very well. I honestly wouldn't mind him being here for 4-6 years and than going to the Red Wings and bringing in Babcock. Phaneuf for under 5.4 million is a steal IMO.

- optimus-reim


The type of minutes and the type of situations Komi was put in were wrong, along with his partnering, especially with Wilson's style in terms of the breakout and the rush. Komi was caught out of position so many times because that was just not suited to his style, his skating, his skills. He'd take bad penalties cuz he was getting caught running around a lot. A tigher system, play along the boards, strong, in tight checking and less minutes will suit him better. He played so much better when his minutes were cut to a more suitable amount. That being said, he's still way overpaid.
Of course, that's just one Leaf fan's opinion.....

*fixed*
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:24 PM ET
Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.

- zach parise9



but his point is 'more valid'...
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 19 @ 8:24 PM ET
I don't even want your 1st overall pick. I want Galchenyuck at 2. Sorry for not paying attention to the team who has sucked for years. Whenever I'm on here you guys are always female doging about how you need an offensive dman. Chew on that.
- optimus-reim

You won't Galchenyuk. You won't get Yakupov. It'll likely be Grigorenko or Forsberg for you guys, thats if 'Burkie' doesn't trade that pick first. We have Whitney and Petry. You can keep whoever you're currently overrating in Leafland.

41 years no finals appearance. current longest playoff drought. how about you chew on that?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 19 @ 8:25 PM ET
but his point is 'more valid'...
- optimus-reim

your user name says it all. thanks for coming out "Optimus".
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 19 @ 8:26 PM ET
Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.

- zach parise9

you never said 'right now'. you generalized. in the future, you could be wrong as hell. try and specify next time.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
I don't even want your 1st overall pick. I want Galchenyuck at 2. Sorry for not paying attention to the team who has sucked for years. Whenever I'm on here you guys are always female doging about how you need an offensive dman. Chew on that.
- optimus-reim


I agree. I want Galchenyuk more than Yakupov.....we need that centre and it shouldn't cost as much.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
The type of minutes and the type of situations Komi was put in were wrong, along with his partnering, especially with Wilson's style in terms of the breakout and the rush. Komi was caught out of position so many times because that was just not suited to his style, his skating, his skills. He'd take bad penalties cuz he was getting caught running around a lot. A tigher system, play along the boards, strong, in tight checking and less minutes will suit him better. He played so much better when his minutes were cut to a more suitable amount. That being said, he's still way OVERpaid.
Of course, that's just one Leaf fan's opinion.....

- Phenom


FIXED


I can agree with that. Wilsons system was exciting to watch on the breakout but horrible coming back. Everyone was confused, no stick, no system.

PM me sometime bud, you're down to earth unlike many people here.
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

May 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
This. Martindale was 4th lined and benched at times in the ECHL this year. He has less value than Omark.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

On a team mainly run by San Jose That is why he is in Oak City now. Maybe take a look at Cornet who was benched and 4th line his first year because most of these teams run14-16 forwards. In Oak City the same thing Happened to Pitlick, Hamilton, Hartikainen at times this year. With Nelson you earn your Ice time then you earn his trust. The only guys this year not given this treatment was Lander and PRV.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:30 PM ET
You won't Galchenyuk. You won't get Yakupov. It'll likely be Grigorenko or Forsberg for you guys, thats if 'Burkie' doesn't trade that pick first. We have Whitney and Petry. You can keep whoever you're currently overrating in Leafland.

41 years no finals appearance. current longest playoff drought. how about you chew on that?

- TheTaoOfSemenko



Uncalled for.
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

May 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.

- zach parise9

How in your mind does Gardiner have more potential?
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
You won't Galchenyuk. You won't get Yakupov. It'll likely be Grigorenko or Forsberg for you guys, thats if 'Burkie' doesn't trade that pick first. We have Whitney and Petry. You can keep whoever you're currently overrating in Leafland.

41 years no finals appearance. current longest playoff drought. how about you chew on that?

- TheTaoOfSemenko



Uncalled for.
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

May 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
Uncalled for.
- optimus-reim

You can dish it but can't take it eh?
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:33 PM ET
You can dish it but can't take it eh?
- BarDownBobo


I don't recall talking to you.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 19 @ 8:34 PM ET
Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.

- zach parise9

How did you come to the conclusion that Gardiner has more potential than Paajarvi?
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:34 PM ET
I agree. I want Galchenyuk more than Yakupov.....we need that centre and it shouldn't cost as much.
- Phenom


He reminds me of the good ol' days when we had NHL calibre centers.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 19 @ 8:34 PM ET
How in your mind does Gardiner have more potential?
- BarDownBobo

ditto. I love how he just snuck that in there.
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

May 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
I don't recall talking to you.
- optimus-reim

Well I'm sure talking to you
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 19 @ 8:40 PM ET
On a team mainly run by San Jose That is why he is in Oak City now. Maybe take a look at Cornet who was benched and 4th line his first year because most of these teams run14-16 forwards. In Oak City the same thing Happened to Pitlick, Hamilton, Hartikainen at times this year. With Nelson you earn your Ice time then you earn his trust. The only guys this year not given this treatment was Lander and PRV.
- longbottom

Speaking of those two, I had never heard this before but Lander and PRV played on a line together in the SEL for a season. With the way PRV and Harti are playing together in the playoffs, I wouldn't mind seeing those three as an OKC top line next year.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 19 @ 8:42 PM ET
you never said 'right now'. you generalized. in the future, you could be wrong as hell. try and specify next time.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

The person I was responding to say said some like he wouldn't trade MPS for Gardiner straight up, and that is ridiculous. Nothing suggest MPS will turn out to be a better player than Gardiner. Jake is well on his way to being a top pairing D man. Either way if you are comparing them now or future, it is an easy choice.
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

May 19 @ 8:42 PM ET


Habs fans would riot like it was 2011 if that happened.

- TheTaoOfSemenko

That's true because he's shouldn't be drafted in the top 6 at all.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 19 @ 8:43 PM ET
How in your mind does Gardiner have more potential?
- BarDownBobo

It is just my opinion, but I'd be shocked if non Oilers fans thought differently.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:44 PM ET
That's true because he's shouldn't be drafted at all.
- Thehabsfan93


Fixed for humor.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 19 @ 8:45 PM ET
It is just my opinion, but I'd be shocked if non Oilers fans thought differently.
- zach parise9



They're so rude with their young studs and junk.
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