Yeah playing on the top pairing on Edmonton is a real accomplishment. A team where a 1 footed Whitney is there best D man.
- zach parise9

Like I said lets see who has the better season next year and who has the sophmore jinx hit them. Petry is worth as much as Gardiner any day of the week.

Who is the better player right now? Gardiner.
Who has more potential? Gardiner
Who has more value? Gardiner

Only one who is a retard is you if you actually believe what that other guy was saying.
- zach parise9

Who has more potential? The 10th overall pick who is 21 or the 17th overall pick who is 22? Retard

Who has more potential? The 10th overall pick who is 21 or the 17th overall pick who is 22? Retard
- Ihatebrianburke

Once again, an idiot making Oiler fans look bad. Potential means (frank) all. Lots of good prospects with lots of potential tank. Not to say Paajarvi won't be good someday, but Gardiner has already proven himself capable of playing consistently at the NHL level. Paajarvi has not. Until Paajarvi proves himself, he will never be worth as much as Gardiner.

Who has more potential? The 10th overall pick who is 21 or the 17th overall pick who is 22? Retard
- Ihatebrianburke

Yeah that 10th overall pick would not be drafted there if there were a draft redo.

Who has more potential? The 10th overall pick who is 21 or the 17th overall pick who is 22? Retard
- Ihatebrianburke

Here is an example of the logic you are using: Smid was drafted 9th overall. Weber was drafted 49th overall. Therefore, Smid > Weber. It doesn't work that way.

Like I said lets see who has the better season next year and who has the sophmore jinx hit them. Petry is worth as much as Gardiner any day of the week.
- longbottom

Petry is 3 years older...

Isn't Gardiner playing for the Marlies right now? As PRV is playing for the Barons for now and Looking much like last year.
Who has more potential? PRV by more than a country mile my friend.
Who has more Value? A dime a dozen offensive Dman and yes there are many out there even though Edmonton doesn't have one other than Petry and Whitney.
But a better comparrisson would be Petry to Gardiner:
Stats alone tell a huge story as both spent time in the AHL and this was both of their rookie seasons.(A fact over shadowed on Petry because of RNH.)
Both played over 70 games and Gardiner had 5 more goals than Petry same amount of assists. Petry ended up a -7 on a Oiler defense that was well below average. Gardiner ended up -2 on a overrated exp defense. next year we will see who is the gem and we will still have an up and coming power forward being taught right by Todd Nelson.

Edit after last nights play-off game PRV has more value going 2p +3 and Gardiner

went 0p -2 Oh My Holy Hell Gardiner is over rated can't even stop the Oak City Barons what the hell is he going to do in the NHL if he ever makes it?
- longbottom

Your (frank)ing stupid

Once again, an idiot making Oiler fans look bad. Potential means (frank) all. Lots of good prospects with lots of potential tank. Not to say Paajarvi won't be good someday, but Gardiner has already proven himself capable of playing consistently at the NHL level. Paajarvi has not. Until Paajarvi proves himself, he will never be worth as much as Gardiner.
- dallas717

Calling me an idiot? answer me this how many Power forwards are in the NHL?
How many of those have speed of PRV. Any G.M. will kill for that even not making the NHL yet.
Or a dime a dozen offensive defenseman. hmmmmm I wonder where the value is.
I would take PRV over a overrated offensive not very good defensivly defenseman anyday of the week.

Who has more potential? The 10th overall pick who is 21 or the 17th overall pick who is 22? Retard
- Ihatebrianburke

Whichever one who wears the Leafs jersey.

Yeah playing on the top pairing on Edmonton is a real accomplishment. A team where a 1 footed Whitney is there best D man.
- zach parise9

He isn't. Him having one foot obviously has hampered him, but other players have stepped up making him no longer the top guy.

Yeah that 10th overall pick would not be drafted there if there were a draft redo.
- zach parise9

You are you insane? Kind of early isn't it?

Calling me an idiot? answer me this how many Power forwards are in the NHL?
How many of those have speed of PRV. Any G.M. will kill for that even not making the NHL yet.
Or a dime a dozen offensive defenseman. hmmmmm I wonder where the value is.
I would take PRV over a overrated offensive not very good defensivly defenseman anyday of the week.
- longbottom

First of all, do you even know what a dime a dozen means? Jake Gardiner, an offensive defenseman who was able to play consistently at the NHL level and put up 30+ points in a shortened season at 22 years old, is a dime a dozen. I don't need to call you an idiot. That statement speaks for itself, believe me.

I'm not saying Paajarvi doesn't have some value, but he was unable to hold down a spot this season on one of the absolute worst teams in the league. 8 points in 41 games. So no, he is not as valuable as Gardiner. Quit your homerism and deal with it.

Your (frank)ing stupid
- The_Vark

I don't post too often but I read most threads. LB is a homer and over the top, but really, why do people who cannot even write a three word sentence properly have the gall to call others stupid is way beyond me.

PS comparing Gardner and Petry is almost as ridiculous as comparing a 21 yr old power forward to a 22 year old dman coming off his first year. The hype for Gardner by a lot of Leafs fans has gone way way too far. The comparison is ridiculous.

This whole argument is just hilarious. The argument is that a guy who is coming off of what is being perceived as a 'good' season vs a guy who had a bad season. They're both under 22. They're both first round picks. They've both got very high potential as different types of players, but both are key to the success of a team. Paajarvi at top potential could become an elite power forward, combining elite speed with size. Gardiner could become a top pairing offensive Defenseman and a top PP quarterback.

As an Oil fan I'm happy with Paajarvi, happy with how he's developing and glad he's in OKC. Obviously Leafs fans are happy with Gardiner, so this whole argument is irrelevant.

I don't post too often but I read most threads. LB is a homer and over the top, but really, why do people who cannot even write a three word sentence properly have the gall to call others stupid is way beyond me.

PS comparing Gardner and Petry is almost as ridiculous as comparing a 21 yr old power forward to a 22 year old dman coming off his first year. The hype for Gardner by a lot of Leafs fans has gone way way too far. The comparison is ridiculous.
- tboog6

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This whole argument is just hilarious. The argument is that a guy who is coming off of what is being perceived as a 'good' season vs a guy who had a bad season. They're both under 22. They're both first round picks. They've both got very high potential as different types of players, but both are key to the success of a team. Paajarvi at top potential could become an elite power forward, combining elite speed with size. Gardiner could become a top pairing offensive Defenseman and a top PP quarterback.

As an Oil fan I'm happy with Paajarvi, happy with how he's developing and glad he's in OKC. Obviously Leafs fans are happy with Gardiner, so this whole argument is irrelevant.
- BarDownBobo

Exactly. All we were trying to get through to LB is that right now in a trade Gardiner has more value because he had a good season.

Calling me an idiot? answer me this how many Power forwards are in the NHL?
How many of those have speed of PRV. Any G.M. will kill for that even not making the NHL yet.
Or a dime a dozen offensive defenseman. hmmmmm I wonder where the value is.
I would take PRV over a overrated offensive not very good defensivly defenseman anyday of the week.
- longbottom

Just because he is considered a power forward with speed does not make him as valuable as you think. Other wise he wouldn't have put up 8 points in half a season this year.

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- The_Vark

I have no problem with bad grammar on a MSG board. The irony of calling someone stupid for a three word post was just too much to pass on.

Yeah that 10th overall pick would not be drafted there if there were a draft redo.
- zach parise9

He was the #1 ranked European prospect in his draft year

I have no problem with bad grammar on a MSG board. The irony of calling someone stupid for a three word post was just too much to pass on.
- tboog6

Ya well I had to say something .... I'm on my I phone at my cottage I wasn't up for making a big post I figured I would keep it short and 2 the point

He was the #1 ranked European prospect in his draft year
- Ihatebrianburke

That means absolutely nothing right now.

He was the #1 ranked European prospect in his draft year
- Ihatebrianburke

Yeah, you're right. If they were to redo the draft today the Oilers would take Paajarvi over guys like Dmitry Kulikov, Ryan Ellis, and Ryan O'Reilly.

You guys are (frank)ing nuts... Paajarvi just turned 21

I think some fans should realize that not everyone will come into the league and dominate right off the bat like Hall, Eberle and the Nuge... Most players take time. Would you guys have given up on the Sedins when they 20-21 years old? Give me a (frank)ing break.

I don't even want your 1st overall pick. I want Galchenyuck at 2. Sorry for not paying attention to the team who has sucked for years. Whenever I'm on here you guys are always female doging about how you need an offensive dman. Chew on that.
- optimus-reim

Why wouldn't you at least try to pay attention to the Leafs? They're not that bad.

Yeah, you're right. If they were to redo the draft today the Oilers would take Paajarvi over guys like Dmitry Kulikov, Ryan Ellis, and Ryan O'Reilly.
- dallas717

I'm pretty sure OEL was anyway.