There are literally 240 wingers in the NHL better than PRV.
- prock

That's a lot!

That's a lot!
- robin_steele264

Even more than 41

(frank) your a (frank)ing Idiot. I was being over the top for a very good reason. Gardiner is now the flavor of the week. Toronto trolls are in here daily trying to push him down our throats as the savior of the Leafs. 1st pairing potential what a (frank)en joke. Last year it was Schenn this Kessel that.
By the way BOZO a dime a dozen means what is suggests. "a little dime for a dozen of a product." In this case there are litterally 41 offensive defensemen better than Gardiner statisically speaking.
Is Petry worth more than Gardiner who the (frank) knows. Is PRV worth more than Schenn maybe depending what G.M.s would Give for him. But I know for sure the Oilers are still high on him.
And to that guy who said PRV isn't a power Forward....... That is exactly what he is learning down in Oak City. To Use his size to protect the puck to use his speed too power his way to the net, Nelson is teaching him to use his size to become a power forward..... ALA a Tim Kerr or a Kieth Preameau with speed, a power forward.
- longbottom

Snap! Longbottom loses it!
I can't really comment on the comparison of Gardiner vs Petry but I will say Petry over the year improved tremendously.
PRV I would have to disagree with the comment of the Oilers still being high on him. I don't believe the Oil will have any room for him in the top 6 ala Omark. He will be packaged in a trade eventually.

As far as becoming a power forward in OKC it is not happening. I seen them live a few times this year and he has been far from it.

There are literally 240 wingers in the NHL better than PRV.
- prock

So 20 dimes?

So 20 dimes?
- Cheech in Texas

24 dimes. And even more dimes in the AHL.

Would love to see Dumba at #14. Likely not gonna happen.

24 dimes. And even more dimes in the AHL.
- prock

You are incorrect sir!
24 dimes a dozen would amount to 288 Players.

So 20 dimes?
- Cheech in Texas

Oh wait! You get a dozen for a dime. So you're right!

You are incorrect sir!
24 dimes a dozen would amount to 288 Players.


- Cheech in Texas

Beat me to it.

- Killbot460

Stop posting pics of pre-op trannys.

Even more than 41
- prock

How many centers are better than Sam Gagner?

*gets calculator*

How many centers are better than Sam Gagner?

*gets calculator*
- robin_steele264

I'm pretty sure four in Toronto and at least six on the Marlies.

Offensive defensemen are a dime a dozen??? Since when? That's news to me. Gardiner had 30 points, but most of them came in the 2nd half of the season when he started getting accustomed to the NHL game and speed and he started getting more confident with the puck and in his decision-making. Watch the last 20 games of the season and then tell me Paajarvi or Petry can even compare right now.
- Phenom

First arguing if Gardiner is better than Paajarvi or the other way around is goofy. Kind of like comparing an apple to an orange but if answers are needed here is mine! As the season played out last year the better was Gardiner, plain and simple! Both have great potential but who knows what happens with that and next year the title of who is better is easily switched.

Now my friend , comparing Gardiner to Petry is easier! Yes there is a bit of an age difference but Petry has only played 33 more NHL games and they really have taken the same path. In comparison of these two, Petry would be the better when looking back at last year.
Gardiner 75 games, 30 pts, -2, 52 hits, 90 blocked shots
Petry 73 games, 25 pts, -7, 126 hits, 126 blocked shots

Gardiner played on a more defensively rounded grouping, while Petry was not. Although when looking at stats the Oilers allowed less goals against this season finishing at 23/30 and 232 goals against. Toronto was 29/30 with 259 goals against?

So based on LAST year Gardiner>>>>> Paajarvi but Petry >>>>>>>Gardiner.
Just my take, relax next season will bring a whole new argument on these guys!

First arguing if Gardiner is better than Paajarvi or the other way around is goofy. Kind of like comparing an apple to an orange but if answers are needed here is mine! As the season played out last year the better was Gardiner, plain and simple! Both have great potential but who knows what happens with that and next year the title of who is better is easily switched.

Now my friend , comparing Gardiner to Petry is easier! Yes there is a bit of an age difference but Petry has only played 33 more NHL games and they really have taken the same path. In comparison of these two, Petry would be the better when looking back at last year.
Gardiner 75 games, 30 pts, -2, 52 hits, 90 blocked shots
Petry 73 games, 25 pts, -7, 126 hits, 126 blocked shots

Gardiner played on a more defensively rounded grouping, while Petry was not. Although when looking at stats the Oilers allowed less goals against this season finishing at 23/30 and 232 goals against. Toronto was 29/30 with 259 goals against?

So based on LAST year Gardiner>>>>> Paajarvi but Petry >>>>>>>Gardiner.Just my take, relax next season will bring a whole new arugment on these guys!
- Tapdog

First arguing if Gardiner is better than Paajarvi or the other way around is goofy. Kind of like comparing an apple to an orange but if answers are needed here is mine! As the season played out last year the better was Gardiner, plain and simple! Both have great potential but who knows what happens with that and next year the title of who is better is easily switched.

Now my friend , comparing Gardiner to Petry is easier! Yes there is a bit of an age difference but Petry has only played 33 more NHL games and they really have taken the same path. In comparison of these two, Petry would be the better when looking back at last year.
Gardiner 75 games, 30 pts, -2, 52 hits, 90 blocked shots
Petry 73 games, 25 pts, -7, 126 hits, 126 blocked shots

Gardiner played on a more defensively rounded grouping, while Petry was not. Although when looking at stats the Oilers allowed less goals against this season finishing at 23/30 and 232 goals against. Toronto was 29/30 with 259 goals against?

So based on LAST year Gardiner>>>>> Paajarvi but Petry >>>>>>>Gardiner.
Just my take, relax next season will bring a whole new arugment on these guys!
- Tapdog

Gardiner actually played a pretty decent defensive game too. He played a lot of pk. Better than petry too.

Gardiner actually played a pretty decent defensive game too. He played a lot of pk. Better than petry too.
- prock

Petry broke out this year... really happy with his game, physical side was nice to see.

Gardiner actually played a pretty decent defensive game too. He played a lot of pk. Better than petry too.
- prock

Oops, wrong again...
Petry averaged 2:29/ game playing short handed.
Gardiner averaged 1:45/ game playing short handed.

Take the time to look up the stats.

Face it based on LAST year Petry was the better all round defenseman when comparing the two.

Gardiner actually played a pretty decent defensive game too. He played a lot of pk. Better than petry too.
- prock

The stats say you're wrong.

That is because you are a homer. You wouldn't acknowledge talent out side Toronto.
You want to see a future #1 in Ontario? look down the road to Ottawa at Karlsson 78 points as a Rookie. So sorry 30 points doesn't even get you rated better than Tom Gilbert 33p as a rookie.
- longbottom

Except that he wasn't a rookie.

Other than that...I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

The stats say you're wrong.
- Starbuck

Stats say he had a better +/- on a team with more goals against, and managed to earn a good amount of pk time, on a team you just said was more well rounded. I believe you already said earlier he was only getting time because of injuries right? Hits are nice, but don't really mean that much.

Before the idiots start claiming I'm saying he's the saviour, I'm not. But he's a hell of a lot better than Petry.

Petry broke out this year... really happy with his game, physical side was nice to see.
- robin_steele264

Sure. The oile may end up with a serviceable second or third pairing dman in him.

How many centers are better than Sam Gagner?

*gets calculator*
- robin_steele264

We might need some of NASAs computers.

Sure. The oile may end up with a serviceable second or third pairing dman in him.
- prock

I think he'll be a 2nd pairing guy, maybe better if he continues his progression.

can play specialty teams too... he's a keeper, much like Gardiner is for the Leafs.

Except that he wasn't a rookie.

Other than that...I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
- Juice

Science.

They are talking about science.

Stats say he had a better +/- on a team with more goals against, and managed to earn a good amount of pk time, on a team you just said was more well rounded. I believe you already said earlier he was only getting time because of injuries right? Hits are nice, but don't really mean that much.

Before the idiots start claiming I'm saying he's the saviour, I'm not. But he's a hell of a lot better than Petry.
- prock

Actually it was me that said Gardiner played on a more rounded defensive grouping not Starbuck! It would be nice if you can follow the bouncing ball. My statement is correct regardless of the goals against stat. It worked out to 27 goals on the season and you take the bait easier than... So Petry was -7 to Gardiners -2, holy hanna do you even understand hockey?
I can see this is going to go no where!