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wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
That's my hope.

Just wish Homer would've said "we're taking a wait-and-see approach with Nick."

- bmeltzer


I agree...and I think that would have been the more rational response from Homer. Grossman was clearly a step slower when he came back and not as sharp. Whether that was from concussion or his knee or both...

my thought of another story being more on the history of players being "healthy" and then injured within a couple days with no game contact .... or needing surgery in one outlet and being healthy in another one....

BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Pretty hypocritical of Torts to be ripping the Devils for setting picks, when there is nobody in the league that sets more picks than Ryan Callahan. Callahan has elevated it to an art form, but he still sets a ton of picks every game.

Or you could call it comical, as Deboer did. Both correct imo.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
Pretty hypocritical of Torts to be ripping the Devils for setting picks, when there is nobody in the league that sets more picks than Ryan Callahan. Callahan has elevated it to an art form, but he still sets a ton of picks every game.

Or you could call it comical, as Deboer did. Both correct imo.

- BringBack25


(frank)ing asshat. i didn't even watch the game, and i know he's full of poop.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
nice work, doan.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
I still feel like the Kings are completely in control of this game and will win.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:30 PM ET
I still feel like the Kings are completely in control of this game and will win.
- MBFlyerfan


they might. my bet is on phx today.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
i know this is totally out of left field and many will totally reject this idea, but....
i think the flyers should change their colors and/or logo. orange and black is the color combination with the highest contrast and that may have something to do with the team constantly having goalie problems. also, maybe the refs will forget we were the broad street bullies and actually give the team a fair shake. crazy idea, i know. i'm aware colors are important for teams, but it's been a hell of a long time since this franchise captured the ultimate goal and maybe changing the uni's could change karma.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
and it's 2-nil. doan leading the way today.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 4:39 PM ET
they might. my bet is on phx today.
- hammarby31


After that goal you are probably right.


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 4:40 PM ET
i know this is totally out of left field and many will totally reject this idea, but....
i think the flyers should change their colors and/or logo. orange and black is the color combination with the highest contrast and that may have something to do with the team constantly having goalie problems. also, maybe the refs will forget we were the broad street bullies and actually give the team a fair shake. crazy idea, i know. i'm aware colors are important for teams, but it's been a hell of a long time since this franchise captured the ultimate goal and maybe changing the uni's could change karma.

- flyerscup2011


BAN!!!!!!!!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
i know this is totally out of left field and many will totally reject this idea, but....
i think the flyers should change their colors and/or logo. orange and black is the color combination with the highest contrast and that may have something to do with the team constantly having goalie problems. also, maybe the refs will forget we were the broad street bullies and actually give the team a fair shake. crazy idea, i know. i'm aware colors are important for teams, but it's been a hell of a long time since this franchise captured the ultimate goal and maybe changing the uni's could change karma.

- flyerscup2011


it is out of left field, and i do reject the idea. the only way this will ever happen is after ed snider passes. no chance while he's here. there really is no reason to change the logo or colors. the uniform, sure? they've done that in subtle ways over the years - and not so subtle with those early-mid 2000 orange unis with the chrome/gray trim on the logo and sleeves.

it would be interesting though, for sure, if they did change them.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
orange and black is the color combination with the highest contrast and that may have something to do with the team constantly having goalie problems.
- flyerscup2011


Except goaltending was not the reason they lost to the Devils.

Will changing colors prevent injuries?
Or cause the Powerplay to actually take a shot in an Overtime game?
Will a color change score them more than one goal in an elimination game
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
After that goal you are probably right.
- MBFlyerfan


i hope so.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 20 @ 4:45 PM ET
it is out of left field, and i do reject the idea. the only way this will ever happen is after ed snider passes. no chance while he's here. there really is no reason to change the logo or colors. the uniform, sure? they've done that in subtle ways over the years - and not so subtle with those early-mid 2000 orange unis with the chrome/gray trim on the logo and sleeves.

it would be interesting though, for sure, if they did change them.

- hammarby31


yea i agree that there's no way they change the logo or colors until mr. snider passes and even then it's still unlikely.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
BAN!!!!!!!!

- MBFlyerfan


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:47 PM ET
funny how a 2-0 lead can seem like 10-0 in some games. i never get that feeling while watching the flyers leading.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 20 @ 4:48 PM ET
funny how a 2-0 lead can seem like 10-0 in some games. i never get that feeling while watching the flyers leading.
- hammarby31


EDIT: unless of course the goalie does something stupid.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 4:49 PM ET
yea i agree that there's no way they change the logo or colors until mr. snider passes and even then it's still unlikely.
- flyerscup2011


The logo and colors are Iconic in hockey. You might as well suggest the Canadiens or Yankees change logos and colors.

There is only two other orange and black teams in all of pro sports. And when people say "The Orange and Black", they don't think of the Bengals or the Orioles, they think of the Flyers.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 20 @ 5:01 PM ET
The logo and colors are Iconic in hockey. You might as well suggest the Canadiens or Yankees change their uniforms.

There is only two other orange and black teams in all of pro sports. And when people say "The Orange and Black", they don't think of the Bengals or the Orioles, they think of the Flyers.

- MBFlyerfan


Oh, I don't know. I think a teal/periwinkle combo would look kinda keen.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 20 @ 5:08 PM ET
The logo and colors are Iconic in hockey. You might as well suggest the Canadiens or Yankees change their uniforms.

There is only two other orange and black teams in all of pro sports. And when people say "The Orange and Black", they don't think of the Bengals or the Orioles, they think of the Flyers.

- MBFlyerfan

You, no way you can or should change the logo/colors.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 5:28 PM ET
Richards just avoided getting killed by Derek Morris...barely.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
You, no way you can or should change the logo/colors.
- Yosimar89


That's insane to even think about it let alone suggest it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 20 @ 5:49 PM ET
If this were a 1 goal game, this is where I would suggest a rule change. If a team, down by 1 goal with less than two minutes left in a game gets a power play, they should be able to get the entire power play instead of being punished for there being less than 2 minutes. It happens at the end of the first and second, so it should happen at the end of the third as well.

Discuss.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 20 @ 5:57 PM ET
i know this is totally out of left field and many will totally reject this idea, but....
i think the flyers should change their colors and/or logo. orange and black is the color combination with the highest contrast and that may have something to do with the team constantly having goalie problems. also, maybe the refs will forget we were the broad street bullies and actually give the team a fair shake. crazy idea, i know. i'm aware colors are important for teams, but it's been a hell of a long time since this franchise captured the ultimate goal and maybe changing the uni's could change karma.

- flyerscup2011



lol
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 20 @ 6:22 PM ET
If this were a 1 goal game, this is where I would suggest a rule change. If a team, down by 1 goal with less than two minutes left in a game gets a power play, they should be able to get the entire power play instead of being punished for there being less than 2 minutes. It happens at the end of the first and second, so it should happen at the end of the third as well.

Discuss.

- MBFlyerfan

it would roll over if they were going to OT. otherwise, no. you're asking for more of a penalty for taking one late in a game and i can't get behind that.
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