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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
Don't see a spot for Murray. We need a defenseman with some offense that can play the point on the PP. Atleast that's my opinion. Ek seems to think the Flyers love Murray. Not sure why.
- MJL


I love Doug Murray. Tough as nails. Could bring the type of presence that the Kings have gotten from Scuderi and Willie Mitchell.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 5:20 PM ET
Don't see a spot for Murray. We need a defenseman with some offense that can play the point on the PP.
- MJL


I would take a "Flyer" on J Shultz if he was available through UFA because I agree we need someone with offensive upside. That said, I would also resign Kubina in that case if Kubina had anything left in the tank as a backup plan. You just can't bank on Shultz being the answer to our problem. No experience to show he will fill that role.

Oddly, if he signs with the Ducks (likely) we could look at a possible trade to bring in one of their Offensive D men (Sbisa, Fowler, or Visnovsky). Bringing us full circle to Bob. Would ANA want Bob as a part of a trade package for one of these D men?

I feel sick from all this ridiculous banter/specualtion....how does EK do it?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
I love Doug Murray. Tough as nails. Could bring the type of presence that the Kings have gotten from Scuderi and Willie Mitchell.
- bradleyc4


It's not that I don't like Murray as a player. Where is he going to play and with whom? We already added that needed presence in trading for Grossmann. Unless they are going to ask more out of Meszaros on the PP, then Murray isn't the kind of player I want. He only has one year left on his deal, so depending on what the cost is to get him, I'd be okay with him for a one year stop gap. But I want some more mobility on the backend.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 5:43 PM ET
It's not that I don't like Murray as a player. Where is he going to play and with whom? We already added that needed presence in trading for Grossmann. Unless they are going to ask more out of Meszaros on the PP, then Murray isn't the kind of player I want. He only has one year left on his deal, so depending on what the cost is to get him, I'd be okay with him for a one year stop gap. But I want some more mobility on the backend.
- MJL


Good call. If Bourdon or Gusty were more "ready" to take a step forward then I would consider it. They don't seem to be and their injuries were a bit stalling this year. Mezzy is streaky and has played that role prior in his NHL career. He hasn't showed it recently though. I too would look elsewhere.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 25 @ 5:57 PM ET
Good call. If Bourdon or Gusty were more "ready" to take a step forward then I would consider it. They don't seem to be and their injuries were a bit stalling this year. Mezzy is streaky and has played that role prior in his NHL career. He hasn't showed it recently though. I too would look elsewhere.
- coffee junkie


If I can't get a good puck mover, then I am using some of our assets to move up to like 5 or 6 in the draft and take one of the stellar d-men there.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
If I can't get a good puck mover, then I am using some of our assets to move up to like 5 or 6 in the draft and take one of the stellar d-men there.
- RooNosHockey

Could you do me a favor and propose something? I like that idea but can't get too excited without some proposals.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 25 @ 6:18 PM ET
Could you do me a favor and propose something? I like that idea but can't get too excited without some proposals.
- coffee junkie

Unfortunately... Jvr or voracek and our 1st. No thanks
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 25 @ 6:23 PM ET
If I can't get a good puck mover, then I am using some of our assets to move up to like 5 or 6 in the draft and take one of the stellar d-men there.
- RooNosHockey


You have to move into the top 10 to get one of the top 4 d-men in this draft. You can just sit tight at #20 and still get a solid prospect.

We already have very little "assets" to move, we need to add to what we already don't have in our system not make it worse.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
If I can't get a good puck mover, then I am using some of our assets to move up to like 5 or 6 in the draft and take one of the stellar d-men there.
- RooNosHockey



Which asset do you think is going to get you that high in the draft? Are you prepared to part with Schenn or Couturier?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 25 @ 6:41 PM ET
Unfortunately... Jvr or voracek and our 1st. No thanks
- Just5


I doubt that get's you the 5th or 6th pick.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
I doubt that get's you the 5th or 6th pick.
- MJL


It's a decent draft for d-man depth that moving up isn't really something they need to do to get one.

I sit at #20 & even consider sliding back to get an extra pick or 2 and if lucky 1 for 2013.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

It is confirmed Justin Schultz de-registered from Wisconsin earlier this week, starting a process that could make blue-chip ANA prospect UFA

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Obvious strategy now for ANA is to trade Schultz's rights to club Schultz will sign with but Ducks would need Schultz's cooperation on that.


Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Schultz will become UFA - able to listen to offers - prior to draft but not able to actually sign til July 1.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
I doubt that get's you the 5th or 6th pick.
- MJL


The last 9 years here are the # 2 picks in each draft.

2011 Gabriel Landeskog
2010 Tyler Seguin
2009 Victor Hedman
2008 Drew Doughty
2007 JVR
2006 Jordan Staal
2005 Bobby Ryan
2004 Evgeni Malkin
2003 Eric Staal

Of these 9 guys who else besides JVR doesn't return the # 5 or # 6 pick in this years draft?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 25 @ 7:28 PM ET
The last 9 years here are the # 2 picks in each draft.

2011 Gabriel Landeskog
2010 Tyler Seguin
2009 Victor Hedman
2008 Drew Doughty
2007 JVR
2006 Jordan Staal
2005 Bobby Ryan
2004 Evgeni Malkin
2003 Eric Staal

Of these 9 guys who else besides JVR doesn't return the # 5 or # 6 pick in this years draft?

- PLindbergh31

this list is depressing
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 25 @ 7:30 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Is Bobrovsky Suited to be a Backup
- bmeltzer

I didn't read the blog. It was simply a great question, so I'd rather go straight to my own reply. I would trade Bob. I don't think it's fair to him to have him backing up to a starter with 8 years left on his contract. I would I'd go after a more veteran back up like Ray Emery or someone along those lines.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 25 @ 7:34 PM ET
The last 9 years here are the # 2 picks in each draft.

2011 Gabriel Landeskog
2010 Tyler Seguin
2009 Victor Hedman
2008 Drew Doughty
2007 JVR
2006 Jordan Staal
2005 Bobby Ryan
2004 Evgeni Malkin
2003 Eric Staal

Of these 9 guys who else besides JVR doesn't return the # 5 or # 6 pick in this years draft?

- PLindbergh31


That list is unbelievable. Of course the sixers and flyers get treated to Evan turner and jvr with the #2 picks. It's awesome being a Philly fan
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 25 @ 7:36 PM ET
The last 9 years here are the # 2 picks in each draft.

2011 Gabriel Landeskog
2010 Tyler Seguin
2009 Victor Hedman
2008 Drew Doughty
2007 JVR
2006 Jordan Staal
2005 Bobby Ryan
2004 Evgeni Malkin
2003 Eric Staal

Of these 9 guys who else besides JVR doesn't return the # 5 or # 6 pick in this years draft?

- PLindbergh31


Thats a solid list of players. Very talented players.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 25 @ 7:46 PM ET
The last 9 years here are the # 2 picks in each draft.

2011 Gabriel Landeskog
2010 Tyler Seguin
2009 Victor Hedman
2008 Drew Doughty
2007 JVR
2006 Jordan Staal
2005 Bobby Ryan
2004 Evgeni Malkin
2003 Eric Staal

Of these 9 guys who else besides JVR doesn't return the # 5 or # 6 pick in this years draft?

- PLindbergh31


I'm not sure what to think when I see this list. JvR made the choice to go back to school after being drafted, which I think was a good choice. He earned a spot coming out of his first ever training camp and went on to have a decent rookie season. He then had a 20 goal second season. I know it seems like he's had a poor 3rd season but I felt he had a good start and then injuries got to him. It happens. It's tough to say that JvR had a poor season when he was unable to play up to our standards when he's had chronic injuries. I'm hoping the Flyers don't use this season against him as well.

Ideally the line of the future should be Giroux centering JvR and Voracek. If JvR could be more willing to get his nose more dirty and Voracek shoot more, these guys could be dangerous in 2 or 3 seasons' time. At the same time we could really use an upgrade on D. If the Flyers are serious about Weber, it could very much take one of these players (and then some) to get him.

My oh my, it's going to be an interesting summer.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 25 @ 8:09 PM ET
Honestly if Timonen can come back healthy, then I would feel okay with our current defense. Yes I wouldn't mind signing Kubina if the price is right and hope he was just really bangged up, but I guess the Flyers would have said something if he was... I mean as long as there isnt any major injuries, and Carle can be resigned...

Carle-Meszaros
Timonen-Coburn
Grossmann-Lilja-Bourdon-Gus

It's really not that bad. What about instead of trading for some "almost" number 1, you use some assetts to trade up in the draft and draft the next Number 1 guy.

- RooNosHockey

I've been saying this for the last 3 weeks...
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

May 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
The Devils are 46 mins away from playing the Kings in the Stanley Cup...





Hockey Really is amazing.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 25 @ 8:34 PM ET
This Rags team is a (frank)ing fraud. Someone please list every franchise other than the Flyers they currently have an 8 game winning streak against.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 25 @ 8:40 PM ET
This Rags team is a (frank)ing fraud. Someone please list every franchise other than the Flyers they currently have an 8 game winning streak against.
- PLindbergh31

I don't get it....

Not many other teams have 8 game winning streaks against their opponents either...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
That list is unbelievable. Of course the sixers and flyers get treated to Evan turner and jvr with the #2 picks. It's awesome being a Philly fan
- Just5


Over and over, and over again...

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
It's not that I don't like Murray as a player. Where is he going to play and with whom? We already added that needed presence in trading for Grossmann. Unless they are going to ask more out of Meszaros on the PP, then Murray isn't the kind of player I want. He only has one year left on his deal, so depending on what the cost is to get him, I'd be okay with him for a one year stop gap. But I want some more mobility on the backend.
- MJL[
/quote]
me 2
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 25 @ 8:46 PM ET
This Rags team is a (frank)ing fraud. Someone please list every franchise other than the Flyers they currently have an 8 game winning streak against.
- PLindbergh31


The Devils are the truth. Have to give them their due this team is playing great hockey. They have been the better team in this series.
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