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Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 27 @ 3:49 PM ET
penner does have to make breakfast about 10 times during the finals


- homiedclown


He should be ok as long as his wife doesn't make pancakes.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 3:49 PM ET
penner does have to make breakfast about 10 times during the finals


- homiedclown

Lol. Herniated mouth from too much pancake eating.

I'm not one to use twitter, but I sent him a tweet telling him if they win, he needs to eat pancakes and syrup out of the Cup and use that image as motivation.

I hope he does; that'd be awesome.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

May 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Gagne is not returning unless there is an injury to a couple of our wingers.
- StayTunedMTC

I don't see the harm in throwing him in on line 3 or 4
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
I don't see the harm in throwing him in on line 3 or 4
- FinAddict

Well, I wouldn't mess with what's working, and all 4 lines are clicking right now and have been these playoffs.

He's not physically ready yet to skate with the guys. Our 3rd and 4th lines are grinder / checking lines, so I don't think he'd fit in as well with either of those lines. The last thing I think you want to do in the Finals is bring in a guy who doesn't quite know Sutter's system (or to a certain extent, Murray's) in the Cup finals of all places. Regular season sure, not playoffs in my opinion.

I mean if poop hits the fan and the Kings are down 3-0, or 2-0 with no scoring, maybe you see him. My guess would be Sutter plays Nolan Game 1 and 2 and reevaluates then. If Gagne is ready he may play him game 3 at home.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

May 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
Well, I wouldn't mess with what's working, and all 4 lines are clicking right now and have been these playoffs.

He's not physically ready yet to skate with the guys. Our 3rd and 4th lines are grinder / checking lines, so I don't think he'd fit in as well with either of those lines. The last thing I think you want to do in the Finals is bring in a guy who doesn't quite know Sutter's system (or to a certain extent, Murray's) in the Cup finals of all places. Regular season sure, not playoffs in my opinion.

I mean if poop hits the fan and the Kings are down 3-0, or 2-0 with no scoring, maybe you see him. But I doubt it.

- StayTunedMTC

I'd agree with you but this isn't just any player, this is Simon Gagne. When you're power play is clicking at 8% and you have the option to bring in a pure goal scorer (I'd say the most naturally gifted scorer on your team) I don't think you pass on that.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 4:54 PM ET
I'd agree with you but this isn't just any player, this is Simon Gagne. When you're power play is clicking at 8% and you have the option to bring in a pure goal scorer (I'd say the most naturally gifted scorer on your team) I don't think you pass on that.
- FinAddict

I am concerned about our PP too. As I posted a few posts ago, 13/16 teams in the finals over the last 8 seasons have had at least double, some almost close to triple the PP% we have currently.

The thing is, our PP problems aren't by a lack of skill. Kopi, Carter, Doughty, Martinez, Williams, Brown, etc all can score. It's how we set our PP up with 3 men at the point and 2 men down low, but with no real movement involved besides passes between the 3 that never amount to anything. They do not move at all really. They take a 1 man advantage and turn it into a disadvantage. Gagne won't solve a X's and O's problem.

I mean I'd like him out there though, I love the guy, he's a good player when he is healthy. I just don't think it's the right fit right now. But who knows.
Xnightwish
New Jersey Devils
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 12.12.2011

May 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
i expect the goaltenders will decide this series...and brodeur becomes beast the deeper he gets in the playoffs...its gonna be interesting to see if he can step it up one last time at 40 years old...pressure is a non factor for brodeur considering this is his 5th time to the dance...as far as quick goes its a toss up...hes been outstanding this postseason but he hasnt faced forwards like nj has...i think his crab style of goaltending is gonna burn him as we love to go high....as we saw last series vs lundqvist who is also weak top shelf i think we'll figure out quick pretty fast
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
i expect the goaltenders will decide this series...and brodeur becomes beast the deeper he gets in the playoffs...its gonna be interesting to see if he can step it up one last time at 40 years old...pressure is a non factor for brodeur considering this is his 5th time to the dance...as far as quick goes its a toss up...hes been outstanding this postseason but he hasnt faced forwards like nj has...i think his crab style of goaltending is gonna burn him as we love to go high....as we saw last series vs lundqvist who is also weak top shelf i think we'll figure out quick pretty fast
- Xnightwish

It's easy to counter each other with points.

I can say we've played better offenses and defenses than NJ and beat them all quicker than you beat your opponents.

I do agree goalies will be huge factor. I do agree you will look top shelf.

You will say "if we play our best, the way I know we can, we will win" and I will say "if we play our best, the way I know we can, we will win" as well.

Homerisms aside, goaltending will be key as you said, PP/PK will be big, I think one of the big keys almost no one brings up is our 3rd and 4th lines against yours, how they compare. Both our top 2 lines can go off, it's the bottom pairings that I think will have the biggest impact on who will win or lose the Cup (meaning game winners or establishing forecheck and momentum that leads to goals from the top line/s).
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

May 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
WTF,

Since when do I get popups from this site? Ek, you have a lot to answer for!
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 27 @ 5:21 PM ET
Gagne is not returning unless there is an injury to a couple of our wingers.
- StayTunedMTC

How would you know are you the coach? Malhotra came back in the final for the nucks.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 5:22 PM ET
How would you know are you the coach? Malhotra came back in the final for the nucks.
- pker2theend

Because that is what the coach said. DURRRRRR
LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
I'd agree with you but this isn't just any player, this is Simon Gagne. When you're power play is clicking at 8% and you have the option to bring in a pure goal scorer (I'd say the most naturally gifted scorer on your team) I don't think you pass on that.
- FinAddict

I wouldnt pass it up either.

Gagne would be a sick 3rd or 4th line guy for a game or 2
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 27 @ 5:24 PM ET
Because that is what the coach said. DURRRRRR
- StayTunedMTC

Quote or source?
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
Quote or source?
- pker2theend

Sure, give me a minute. I'll edit this post with the link.

Here is one so far
http://lakingsinsider.com...more-live-ammo-for-kings/

The only person I can see Sutter taking out for Gagne is Jordan Nolan. Other than that, every other player I think is safe. No, Sutter didn't tell me that pk. This is a "what if" scenario mind you.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
Sure, give me a minute. I'll edit this post with the link.http://www.theglobeandmai...me-action/article2444487/
- StayTunedMTC

LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 27 @ 5:35 PM ET
Sure, give me a minute. I'll edit this post with the link.

Here is one so far
http://lakingsinsider.com...more-live-ammo-for-kings/

The only person I can see Sutter taking out for Gagne is Jordan Nolan. Other than that, every other player I think is safe. No, Sutter didn't tell me that pk. This is a "what if" scenario mind you.

- StayTunedMTC

I believe Nolan will be replaced, no way Gagne sits on the biggest stage. Especially since the doctor cleared him.

Game shape? No problem, he has a wicked shot. Who needs legs? Look at what Morris did to Quick.

Basically saying, I want to see Gagne and not Nolan
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 5:37 PM ET
I believe Nolan will be replaced, no way Gagne sits on the biggest stage. Especially since the doctor cleared him.

Game shape? No problem, he has a wicked shot. Who needs legs? Look at what Morris did to Quick.

Basically saying, I want to see Gagne and not Nolan

- LA_Kings6720

Yeah I agree. I like Nolan, but Gagne > Nolan.

This whole topic wasn't if I wanted Gagne in or not, of course I do. It was just whether DL would mess with what works or not and if Gagne is ready to play.

If he is, I'd bring him in. The question is will Sutter.
LA_Kings6720
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Kings fan since '96 ticket holder since '98 Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
Yeah I agree. I like Nolan, but Gagne > Nolan.

This whole topic wasn't if I wanted Gagne in or not, of course I do. It was just whether DL would mess with what works or not and if Gagne is ready to play.

If he is, I'd bring him in. The question is will Sutter.

- StayTunedMTC

Oh I know, any Kings fan would want to see Gagne instead of Nolan.

If they tell you otherwise, they dont know who Gagne is

Will Sutter? Yes I believe he will. At some point
Rayven
Boston Bruins
Location: The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 27 @ 5:54 PM ET
Oh I know, any Kings fan would want to see Gagne instead of Nolan.

If they tell you otherwise, they dont know who Gagne is

Will Sutter? Yes I believe he will. At some point

- LA_Kings6720


If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
StayTunedMTC
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA 2, ANA 1, CGY 1, SJ 0, VAN 0, PHX 0, EDM who cares
Joined: 08.02.2011

May 27 @ 6:04 PM ET
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Rayven

Pretty much how I feel as stated above.
zach parise9
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

May 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
kings have 30 goals even strength

6 pp
5 sh

41 total for a 2.93 goals per game

devils have
51 goals
12 pp
1 sh
39 even strength goals (4 more games)
total of 2.83 goals per game

- homiedclown

Devils have let in less per game.
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 27 @ 7:13 PM ET
Eklund: Can Kings Get Power play untracked in Finals?
- Eklund

This title doesnt make sense and the blog reads like it's written by a drunk or a 13 year old.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 27 @ 7:51 PM ET
wtf is untracked?
- Pea-Brain


amazing
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 27 @ 7:55 PM ET
This title doesnt make sense and the blog reads like it's written by a drunk or a 13 year old.


- the_cause2000


Can't it be both?
the_cause2000
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not quite my tempo
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 27 @ 7:58 PM ET
amazing
- Don'tForgetTocchet

never thought of it that way

its untracked what people come up with these days
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