I would say thats a good list... I would take Halak/Price/ Ward & Miller before Luo. Thats just my opinion.
- wolverine19

on a 1 year deal? I wouldn't

Also, Miller is either a top 3 goalie in the league or a bottom 10 starter, depending on the week.

Luongo ($5.3) + Ballard ($4.2) + 3rd

for

Lecavalier ($7.7) + Hedman ($4)

TB unloads Vinnies absurd contract gets their goalie

Van gets a solid Dman and a 20+ goal man

Ballard needs a change of coach, AV beats him down.

Luongo ($5.3) + Ballard ($4.2) + 3rd

for

Lecavalier ($7.7) + Hedman ($4)

TB unloads Vinnies absurd contract gets their goalie

Van gets a solid Dman and a 20+ goal man

Ballard needs a change of coach, AV beats him down.
- megatronn

Not a chance. Hedman is untouchable in any deal, sorry.

You guys do have a great 1 2 goalie combination... Thats why you guys should keep them together.
- wolverine19

Won't happen, Schneiders paid his dues and deserves his chance to play 50 plus games with a salary of $4 million per.

If Lu and Kipper were on the market, Kip would be over Lu by miles,if for no other reason that a shorter term/no baggage/a true professional (which baby Lu is assuredly not). I also believe he is the better goalie, homer or no. Van needs to unload him and stay w Schneider. The only bets I see are 1) Florida, 2) TB, 3) Columbus, and maybe 4) Leafs. And the longer they wait, the quicker these holes will be filled.

If they keep Lu they are more delusional than the team you jab

[quote=Fosco]Not for Armstrong and Connolly he won't. There will be something of value packaged with an undesirable contract, or Lou won'T be moved,


I like how reality has finally set in for alot of u.
Even the blogger has come around.
(lu for vinny was a realistic article)
A month ago. It was connolly, a 1st and brewer!

A bunch of great pieces and no salary back!....??no.

Its either lu for nothing basically, where The dump IS the value.
Or
U take an ugly contract back (like t. Connolly) and then get the valuable assets your looking for. (schenn or a first etc)

This is troll worthy.. and basically insulting. You do realize how value compares based on young players vs older more established players right? Especially depending on what team your talking about?

Varlamov still has the potential to be a franchise goalie while Lou has half or more of his career behind him. For Colorado.. Varlamov has more value pure and simple.
- Steve-B

Don't talk to Canucks fans about goalies potential. We're still waiting on Kevin Weekes and Alex Auld to develop.

Goalies of the future is right

Ya they'd have to give up Gardiner or Schenn+
- Boinker

I can see Schenn going but Gardiner is staying put. Especially with him being the main chip in attemtping to bring in Justin Schultz (which btw was mentioned by Mike Russo on twitter that he thinks that Schultz has already chosen his destination)

Keith has 11 years left on his contract! But I'd actually consider that deal, because, we could then move Edler+ for a second line center.

Don't see Gillis trading with Chicago though, would make for some great playoff hockey wouldn't it!!!
- LeftCoaster

Rather keep Edler and flip Keith.

I can see Schenn going but Gardiner is staying put. Especially with him being the main chip in attemtping to bring in Justin Schultz (which btw was mentioned by Mike Russo on twitter that he thinks that Schultz has already chosen his destination)
- Trejetta

IMO he has a list of teams he is interested in talking with but I doubt he has decided. Teams cannot talk to him yet. How can you make a decision about where you are going to play with out talking to that team.

Watch for the Wings as a dark horse team to land him.

If I was guessing, his list is Vancouver, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, tampa and Toronto

This is troll worthy.. and basically insulting. You do realize how value compares based on young players vs older more established players right? Especially depending on what team your talking about?

Varlamov still has the potential to be a franchise goalie while Lou has half or more of his career behind him. For Colorado.. Varlamov has more value pure and simple.
- Steve-B

Nobody was stating anything about Varlamov's value to Col. Lou is an upgrade at present. Plain and simple. You'll find out soon enough that Varlamov is not a starting goalie in the NHL.

You are offended way too easily. Just because a blogger posts something that you may disagree with does not mean you have to cry "insult." Just voice your opinion without sounding like a slighted child just because someone else has a different opinion.

on a 1 year deal? I wouldn't

Also, Miller is either a top 3 goalie in the league or a bottom 10 starter, depending on the week.
- Pea-Brain

Yes.. would have to agree with the Miller thing.. As for me I wouldn't want to sign a goalie for more then 3 years at a time.. may be 5 if he was a young top 3 goalie

Goalies are so hit and miss now a days... one day there best signing and the next day there getting dragged under the bus.. Its easier to hide a player who's struggling then a goalie.

Yes.. would have to agree with the Miller thing.. As for me I wouldn't want to sign a goalie for more then 3 years at a time.. may be 5 if he was a young top 3 goalie

Goalies are so hit and miss now a days... one day there best signing and the next day there getting dragged under the bus.. Its easier to hide a player who's struggling then a goalie.
- wolverine19

Depends on the situation. If LA could lock up quick until hes 40with a $4M per cap hit, I'd do it in a heartbeat. at 27ish after a career ufa year, heck no (Huet, Khabby)

IMO he has a list of teams he is interested in talking with but I doubt he has decided. Teams cannot talk to him yet. How can you make a decision about where you are going to play with out talking to that team.

Watch for the Wings as a dark horse team to land him.

If I was guessing, his list is Vancouver, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, tampa and Toronto
- IanEsplen

Don't shoot the messenger. He just said Schultz may have already had made up his mind on where he wants to play and is waiting until July 1st to sign with the team unless Anaheim happens to trade his rights to that team before hand.

Russo is a pretty legit source as well so there may be some truth in it

IMO he has a list of teams he is interested in talking with but I doubt he has decided. Teams cannot talk to him yet. How can you make a decision about where you are going to play with out talking to that team.

Watch for the Wings as a dark horse team to land him.

If I was guessing, his list is Vancouver, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, tampa and Toronto
- IanEsplen

He's already talked to players on various teams, i guarantee you that.

Lu end up on the Leafs...It makes the Most sense.

To Toronto: Luongo

To Vancouver: Tim Connolly, Armstrong

Both Are UFA's next summer Connolly will be on the IR most of the Year and Armdog (if healthy) gives a little more sandpaper to the Nucks

Both can be shed at the Deadline too.

Luongo Needs to be the "star" and The Spot light of Toronto will give him that. PLus he plays his best when he is peppered with shots..again Toronto will give him that....

Add in Term and Financial responsability that comes with such a gigantic contract and Toronto really seems to be the Perfect Fit.


Luongo will be a Leaf bythe Draft!
- billyberg10

Wow, just wow. I am a Flames fan so by definition I should hate all that is beneficial to the Canucks. But seriously, TO fans, wake up. If these are the kind of deals that you think will land you Lu, you're smokin' something heavier than what they have in Van. Lu's contract sucks but he is still a top end goalie; and I say that having NEVER liked him.

Don't shoot the messenger. He just said Schultz may have already had made up his mind on where he wants to play and is waiting until July 1st to sign with the team unless Anaheim happens to trade his rights to that team before hand.

Russo is a pretty legit source as well so there may be some truth in it
- Trejetta

Russo is an absolute hack journalist. Some of his pieces aren't even worthy of this site. Next you're going to claim Garrioch is a legit insider...

edit: not doubting that TO isn't a likely destination, but I wouldn't put any more stock in Russo than a random poster on HB.

Don't shoot the messenger. He just said Schultz may have already had made up his mind on where he wants to play and is waiting until July 1st to sign with the team unless Anaheim happens to trade his rights to that team before hand.

Russo is a pretty legit source as well so there may be some truth in it
- Trejetta

Wasn't shooting just not buying that he has settled on one team.

To me that's kind of like buying a house based on what you see driving by it.

You gotta do the home inspection before locking in

Wow, just wow. I am a Flames fan so by definition I should hate all that is beneficial to the Canucks. But seriously, TO fans, wake up. If these are the kind of deals that you think will land you Lu, you're smokin' something heavier than what they have in Van. Lu's contract sucks but he is still a top end goalie; and I say that having NEVER liked him.
- TandA4Flames

Connolly is a ppg player(when healthy) with 1 year left
and Armstrong (when healthy) is a good agitator for 3rd line

Connolly and a prospect would get it done.......

We all know that Luongo is a great tallent but there just aren't enough teams that would be willing to accept the risks of this contract to deal with the Canucks.

Every one who shoots down this deal needs to realize that Vancouver has absolutely ZERO power here.... Their hands are tied, untill they unload that contract for what ever they can get, A salary dump in return and a prospect is all it is going to take.........

Bookmark this page and get back to me when Luongo is a Leaf and you see what Toronto had to give up to get him!

Connolly is a ppg player(when healthy) with 1 year left
and Armstrong (when healthy) is a good agitator for 3rd line

Connolly and a prospect would get it done.......

We all know that Luongo is a great tallent but there just aren't enough teams that would be willing to accept the risks of this contract to deal with the Canucks.

Every one who shoots down this deal needs to realize that Vancouver has absolutely ZERO power here.... Their hands are tied, untill they unload that contract for what ever they can get, A salary dump in return and a prospect is all it is going to take.........

Bookmark this page and get back to me when Luongo is a Leaf and you see what Toronto had to give up to get him!
- billyberg10

Vancouver has no power here? Vancouver has all the power here. Either give the Canucks what they want or they don't trade him. His contract isn't that ugly, he's a great goalie and he has a few good years ahead of him. Their hands are tied? Not at all. Gillis has a goalie sitting with a $5.3million cap hit who on the open market would get FAR more than that. There isn't any evidence from the organization that they HAVE to trade Luongo, but we all expect it.

Funny thing is that if Luongo was on the open market and looking for $5.3milion, the Leafs would be on that like no tomorrow. Luongo's not worth Connolly, or Hedman, but that's not because of anything but his age. He's got quite a bit of worth, though.

http://www.capgeek.com/trade_machine.php?team1=29&team2=11&team-29-players%5B%5D=660&team-29-players%5B%5D=683&team-11-players%5B%5D=251&team-11-players%5B%5D=252&team-11-players%5B%5D=273&CompleteTradeButton=

To Vancouver : Duncan Keith , Patrick Sharp and Corey Crawford(to back up Schneider)

To Chicago : Luongo and Kesler .

Both teams get better and both still have cap space.
- mrpaulish

I'd do that in a heartbeat, but that's just me, not a Kesler lover.

http://www.capgeek.com/trade_machine.php?team1=29&team2=11&team-29-players%5B%5D=660&team-29-players%5B%5D=683&team-11-players%5B%5D=251&team-11-players%5B%5D=252&team-11-players%5B%5D=273&CompleteTradeButton=

To Vancouver : Duncan Keith , Patrick Sharp and Corey Crawford(to back up Schneider)

To Chicago : Luongo and Kesler .

Both teams get better and both still have cap space.
- mrpaulish

F--- me sideways... I would do this. Well done.

No chance the hawks deal keith.
Id say toews is hardly much more important to them.

I see a ton of flaws in a lot of your logic, of the teams that need lu most rarely spend to the cap or anywhere near it and don't need a contract that still pays lu salary of 6.7 for the next 6 years or until he turns 39 years old. Tampa has already come out and said Lu is not the answer. Columbus finished dead last and is in the middle of a rebuild and not ready to dish out that kind of money and commitment to a goalie past his prime! Edmonton has bulin for another year and a great prospect in dubnyk along with tons of young guys that in a few years will be making money, no need to have that money tied up in Lu if you have any sense. The isles already have a goalie with a huge contract, another vet goalie signed and a young goalie that they can sign, calculate in their low spending and they are certainly not in on Lu. So basically you have Toronto as the only team that needs him.

As for teams that can upgrade I heard some outlandish things, Hiller has injury problems? He's had one major injury and played 73 games last year on a struggling team and still had decent numbers ( educate yourself Hiller>Lu). On winnipeg why would they get Lu as a backup when Pavelec is young and solid and Winnipeg doesn't have the money to throw around? As for crawford he had one bad year after a great year, he could easily bounce back and is way cheaper and less of a risk than Lu. As for the other teams you named Philly(Bryz locked up), Colorado made it clear varly is the future why take on a stupid contract? Jersey is in the cup finals and brodeur will prob be back. And Florida won the conference with theo and have Markstrom almost ready.

Essentially the only team that would actually be willing to take on Lu is Toronto who I could see getting but when you factor in all the other guys available that are cheaper, younger and aren't signed until they're 43, I don't see why unless Vancouver takes back significant cap hit like komisarek why they'd be down.

Don't get me wrong Lu is a mid pack goalie at this point in his career and prob worth the 5.3 for the next 2-3 years but hes signed for 10 more years, even if he retires at 38 you still have him for an extra 2-3 years at 5.3 where he'll prob be outside the top 20 goalies in the NHL. I like your optimism but lets face it Lu will be a hard piece to move!

Id say at the moment luongo is certainly better then a ' mid pack goalie'.
And that in itself will get a decent return if they take a contract back.

But other than that; good post.