The ones hilighted are not better than Luongo. Of the others, a few are on par with Luongo.

Smith? Elliot? Lehtonen? you're kidding right?

A few of the guys you mentioned are borderlined NHL starters
- Fosco

I wouldn't trade Price, Hiller, Fleury or Ward for Luongo if I were their GM's.

Once again and now read carefully, Luongo WAS a great goalie but the year he got nominated for the vezina in florida was 2003 almost 10 years later he is no longer the same goalie he once was. He is still at this point a top 15 goalie in the NHL which is pretty impressive at 33 years old however, he is no longer under elite status as that usually means a top 5 guy. The guys id easily put in the elite category would be Rinne, Quick, Lundy, Thomas and Howard or Price and besides Thomas all of which are great young goalies with promising futures.
- Habsforever101

you would put Howard in the elite category? really?
- CanuckforLife

Luongo has done way more then Price or Howard have... Even Halak out performed Price in Montreal. Quick has only had one crazy good season. He has been in the league for a long time. I am not discounting his play or talent but career wise Luongo had a better one at his age. (minus the cup LA will likely win). Who knows maybe Quick will follow Millers path.

Let's see...

0 this year,
3 last year,
2 the previous year....?

3+2 = 4

And I guess if we aren't including this season because it's not over, 3+2+2 = 4. Excellent.
- bureforearthsprez

Do u mean the previous 2 years before the cup run? He (lu) had 1 in 2010 and 1 in 2009.
Just got a little confused.
Happens all the time!

2010-2012
Luongo and thomas both have 4

2009-2012
Fleury and luongo both have 5

I wouldn't trade Price, Hiller, Fleury or Ward for Luongo if I were their GM's.
- bureforearthsprez

Agreed

I wouldn't trade Price, Hiller, Fleury or Ward for Luongo if I were their GM's.
- bureforearthsprez

I didn't say they didn't have better value than Luongo, as they are all younger and have better contracts, but the only one that is close to as good on that list is Price.

Once again and now read carefully, Luongo WAS a great goalie but the year he got nominated for the vezina in florida was 2003 almost 10 years later he is no longer the same goalie he once was. He is still at this point a top 15 goalie in the NHL which is pretty impressive at 33 years old however, he is no longer under elite status as that usually means a top 5 guy. The guys id easily put in the elite category would be Rinne, Quick, Lundy, Thomas and Howard or Price and besides Thomas all of which are great young goalies with promising futures.
- Habsforever101



Luongo has done way more then Price or Howard have... Even Halak out performed Price in Montreal. Quick has only had one crazy good season. He has been in the league for a long time. I am not discounting his play or talent but career wise Luongo had a better one at his age. (minus the cup LA will likely win). Who knows maybe Quick will follow Millers path.
- SMP8719

Sssshhh LA trolls are everywhere...

http://www.capgeek.com/trade_machine.php?team1=29&team2=11&team-29-players%5B%5D=660&team-29-players%5B%5D=683&team-11-players%5B%5D=251&team-11-players%5B%5D=252&team-11-players%5B%5D=273&CompleteTradeButton=

To Vancouver : Duncan Keith , Patrick Sharp and Corey Crawford(to back up Schneider)

To Chicago : Luongo and Kesler .

Both teams get better and both still have cap space.
- mrpaulish

I would, in fact I even said the same proposal last week on JJs blog without involving Crawford.

I don't think Vancouver has many options if they want to move Luongo. With the success of guys like Elliot and Smith, smaller market teams will not want to tie up 6 million in a goalie. Very few teams can actually afford to take a chance on a 50 million dollar goalie (approx amount remaining on hist contract). Of the big market teams that could afford an expensive goalie, very few teams actually need one. Furthermore there is Luongo's alleged trade list...what is the list? Toronto, Chicago, TB, Florida and ?.

There really is only one fit should Vancouver agree to Luongo's trade request and its Toronto.
- apollo678

Vancouver has a lot of options so those who think Luongo is a 10 year anchor please keep walking. For the more intelligent sports fan who realize it is a 6 year 5.3 cap hit ,we can discuss the issue.

Vancouver does not need to move LU at draft day or even move him at all this year. It would be ideal but not necessary. Chances of Vancouver dealing him to TO are about 40 % ,he very could well move to SJ Chi Edm NJ 40% other 20%.If Burke tries to play hardball Gillis will turn his back and keep Lu until a better offers comes along.Gillis would match any offer sheet to come for CS.

For the TO fans that think they can find better solutions with another goalie ,please take it .We have seen how well that has worked out in the past for you.

Do u mean the previous 2 years before the cup run? He (lu) had 1 in 2010 and 1 in 2009.
Just got a little confused.
Happens all the time!

2010-2012
Luongo and thomas both have 4

2009-2012
Fleury and luongo both have 5
- hugefemale dog77

Still tied for first, not too shabby!

[quote=Trejetta]I can see Schenn going but Gardiner is staying put. Especially with him being the main chip in attemtping to bring in Justin Schultz (which btw was mentioned by Mike Russo on twitter that he thinks that Schultz has already chosen his destination)quote]


You mean his home town Vancover
Along with a trade of Lu for Garndiner.

IMO he has a list of teams he is interested in talking with but I doubt he has decided. Teams cannot talk to him yet. How can you make a decision about where you are going to play with out talking to that team.

Watch for the Wings as a dark horse team to land him.

If I was guessing, his list is Vancouver, Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago, tampa and Toronto
- IanEsplen

If he wanted to play in ANA he could have just signed

[quote=Trejetta]I can see Schenn going but Gardiner is staying put. Especially with him being the main chip in attemtping to bring in Justin Schultz (which btw was mentioned by Mike Russo on twitter that he thinks that Schultz has already chosen his destination)quote]


You mean his home town Vancover
Along with a trade of Lu for Garndiner.
- VANTEL

I know you were just quoting somebody else, but I can't believe it when people try to use Russo as an example of a legitimate hockey journalist.

This is the same guy who wrote an article a few years back ranking the goalies in the NW division, and he had Lou as the worst starter in the division, with every other teams' starter, and even a couple backups ahead of him.

Pretty sure he had Backstrom and Harding as #1 and 2 in the division. I'm shocked he still has a job.

Even the team1040 guys were treating him like a hack when he was doing a segment for them with Garrioch around the TDL.

[quote=Trejetta]I can see Schenn going but Gardiner is staying put. Especially with him being the main chip in attemtping to bring in Justin Schultz (which btw was mentioned by Mike Russo on twitter that he thinks that Schultz has already chosen his destination)quote]


You mean his home town Vancover
Along with a trade of Lu for Garndiner.
- VANTEL

Could also be Edmonton.

I know you were just quoting somebody else, but I can't believe it when people try to use Russo as an example of a legitimate hockey journalist.

This is the same guy who wrote an article a few years back ranking the goalies in the NW division, and he had Lou as the worst starter in the division, with every other teams' starter, and even a couple backups ahead of him.

Pretty sure he had Backstrom and Harding as #1 and 2 in the division. I'm shocked he still has a job.

Even the team1040 guys were treating him like a hack when he was doing a segment for them with Garrioch around the TDL.
- Fosco

Never heard of him and probably after today will never hear of him again.

Could also be Edmonton.
- bureforearthsprez

Could be any one of 29 teams .We will find out July1st

Let's see...

0 this year,
3 last year,
2 the previous year

3+2 = 4

And I guess if we aren't including this season because it's not over, 3+2+2 = 4. Excellent.
- bureforearthsprez

Pretty sure they didn't get past the second round 3 years ago did they? So that year he won 1 series and played in 2 but you clearly stated series wins. So it stands at 4 and Thomas has 5

I'd also like to direct you to this statistic.

http://www.quanthockey.co...e-percentage-leaders.html

Note Roberto at 5th, and the games played of those above him compared to his.

Obviously an incredible talent who holds a lot of value, especially being the 8th or 9th highest paid goalie (per cap hit) in the league today.
- bureforearthsprez

Never said Luongo didn't have a great career because he did and I've said that numerous times! He's not the goalie he once was, which is the case for most players as they get older. He is still valuable but when you judge the value of a player their contract, their age and their current ability is all that matters to teams now. Hes no longer elite and in 4 years he won't be worth the money he's making. A team taking on his contract will take that into consideration and with the small number of teams that actually need a goalie it makes him that harder to move.

The ones hilighted are not better than Luongo. Of the others, a few are on par with Luongo.

Smith? Elliot? Lehtonen? you're kidding right?

A few of the guys you mentioned are borderlined NHL starters
- Fosco

Price, Howard and Halak are all pretty sick goalies and have solid careers ahead of them. The fact that you would put Luongo at 33 ahead of Price shows me your knowledge of goalies. As for Smith, Elliott and Lethonen all had better numbers than Luongo this year and are all younger than him. Lethonen was a big goalie prospect and didn't work out in atlanta because of injury not talent. His past 2 years in Dallas have been stellar, skill wise he is definitely better than Luongo. If you're talking about a career then yes luongo has had a better career but this past year those guys all played better than luongo plain and simple. Watch the games don't just look at the stats.

Never said Luongo didn't have a great career because he did and I've said that numerous times! He's not the goalie he once was, which is the case for most players as they get older. He is still valuable but when you judge the value of a player their contract, their age and their current ability is all that matters to teams now. Hes no longer elite and in 4 years he won't be worth the money he's making. A team taking on his contract will take that into consideration and with the small number of teams that actually need a goalie it makes him that harder to move.
- Habsforever101

He played better than Price last year. He finally matured last year and became a team player. He fianlly put the team ahead of himself . He and Schneider stole about 20 games last year in games the Canucks deserved to lose. His history of when he was an immature spoiled brat now have left him with bad rep. Any team taking him are going to be very surpised and very delighted. He works hard and trains like no other .I think he will be on a mission to give yhe Canucks a big F U to show us we made a mistake. I wish him well.

Do u mean the previous 2 years before the cup run? He (lu) had 1 in 2010 and 1 in 2009.
Just got a little confused.
Happens all the time!

2010-2012
Luongo and thomas both have 4

2009-2012
Fleury and luongo both have 5
- hugefemale dog77

That is actually incorrect, thomas had 0 this year 4 last year and 1 in 2010 which would give him 5! Also you forgot about Niemi who had 4 in 2010 when he won the cup and 2 the next year with SJ when they went to the conference finals which would give him 6. Therefore Luongo is third on the list but nice try, do some research please

He played better than Price last year. He finally matured last year and became a team player. He fianlly put the team ahead of himself . He and Schneider stole about 20 games last year in games the Canucks deserved to lose. His history of when he was an immature spoiled brat now have left him with bad rep. Any team taking him are going to be very surpised and very delighted. He works hard and trains like no other .I think he will be on a mission to give yhe Canucks a big F U to show us we made a mistake. I wish him well.
- VANTEL

Schneider stole a bunch of games luongo not so much, he plays behind the best team in the NHL a team that dominates most teams it plays and makes it fairly easy on their goalies. Price played on a garbage team all year and actually stole almost every game they won, he also had stats very similar to Luongo. Considering one played on the best and the other played on the third worst you'd think if luongo was that much better he'd have better stats no? Also Vancouver as a team had a way better Gaa compared to mtl yet luongo had a 2.41 compared to price with a 2.43 not much of a difference! Price also played 10 more games than Luongo. Price had a way better season when you take everything into consideration.

Schneider stole a bunch of games luongo not so much, he plays behind the best team in the NHL a team that dominates most teams it plays and makes it fairly easy on their goalies. Price played on a garbage team all year and actually stole almost every game they won, he also had stats very similar to Luongo. Considering one played on the best and the other played on the third worst you'd think if luongo was that much better he'd have better stats no? Also Vancouver as a team had a way better Gaa compared to mtl yet luongo had a 2.41 compared to price with a 2.43 not much of a difference! Price also played 10 more games than Luongo. Price had a way better season when you take everything into consideration.
- Habsforever101

You have been reading too many newspaper headlines.They both stole a lot of games . We were not even close to being one of the best teams last year. We had a weak D and our forwards shut it down in the last month . Good goaltending got us the poins.


They did a fan survey here on the radio asking who was Canucks MVP . Most fans agrred it was our goalie tandem.

Vancouver has a lot of options so those who think Luongo is a 10 year anchor please keep walking. For the more intelligent sports fan who realize it is a 6 year 5.3 cap hit ,we can discuss the issue.

Vancouver does not need to move LU at draft day or even move him at all this year. It would be ideal but not necessary. Chances of Vancouver dealing him to TO are about 40 % ,he very could well move to SJ Chi Edm NJ 40% other 20%.If Burke tries to play hardball Gillis will turn his back and keep Lu until a better offers comes along.Gillis would match any offer sheet to come for CS.

For the TO fans that think they can find better solutions with another goalie ,please take it .We have seen how well that has worked out in the past for you.
- VANTEL

I never mentioned anything about the cap hit. Its the remaining 50 million dollars that needs to be paid. Not many teams can afford to gamble on that. The jury is still out on if super long contracts are worth the risk...probably especially so with goalies.

And even with the super long term, Luongo's cap hit is still one of the highest in the league (#8).

Also, no one said that Gillis has to move Luongo but it may be very hard to go back to how things were after the Canucks went with Schneider in the playoffs, Luongo asked for a trade, etc. It can be very poisonous to the team.

And I don't think the Canucks have a lot of options if they choose to move Luongo...the market is limited by a lot of factors especially cost, need and Luongo's NTC list. Obviously Schneider is much easier to trade.

I guess we will see what happens.

Schneider stole a bunch of games luongo not so much, he plays behind the best team in the NHL a team that dominates most teams it plays and makes it fairly easy on their goalies. Price played on a garbage team all year and actually stole almost every game they won, he also had stats very similar to Luongo. Considering one played on the best and the other played on the third worst you'd think if luongo was that much better he'd have better stats no? Also Vancouver as a team had a way better Gaa compared to mtl yet luongo had a 2.41 compared to price with a 2.43 not much of a difference! Price also played 10 more games than Luongo. Price had a way better season when you take everything into consideration.
- Habsforever101

Price (he's a good goalie, but he) has done nothing but lead his team out of the playoffs and down to the bottom of the league. As well, has he won anything in the playoffs? Anything at all?

I never mentioned anything about the cap hit. Its the remaining 50 million dollars that needs to be paid. Not many teams can afford to gamble on that. The jury is still out on if super long contracts are worth the risk...probably especially so with goalies.

And even with the super long term, Luongo's cap hit is still one of the highest in the league (#8).

Also, no one said that Gillis has to move Luongo but it may be very hard to go back to how things were after the Canucks went with Schneider in the playoffs, Luongo asked for a trade, etc. It can be very poisonous to the team.

And I don't think the Canucks have a lot of options if they choose to move Luongo...the market is limited by a lot of factors especially cost, need and Luongo's NTC list. Obviously Schneider is much easier to trade.

I guess we will see what happens.
- apollo678

The only number the fans have to worry about is 31.8 over 6 years. I hear so many Leaf fans say the Leafs have very deep pockets. Then this should be a drop in the bucket the extra 18.2 mil.