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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Tinker to Evers to Chance

- Scoob


We have a better chance of trading for Alice than we do for Weber.

My understanding is that she could be had for a mid round pick plus a third/fourth liner like Harry Z
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Would that top-6 be good in the Flyers system or style of play? I really don't have an answer but the Rangers do have some talent on the blueline.
- stveshdy


Impossible to answer, but I like the talent level and age of their blueline.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
Delco, represent
- BulliesPhan87



Springfield CC
if you register online, the give you a round of golf free on your birthday month...
May is mine

good luck to those who don't fall in the winter months..
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Thanks for "Grant"-ing me that one.
- Flyskippy



clever...i see what you did there
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Springfield CC
if you register online, the give you a round of golf free on your birthday month...
May is mine

good luck to those who don't fall in the winter months..

- phi1671


Heh. My first ice hockey team (2001 - 2006) practiced there on the mini-ice.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Springfield CC
if you register online, the give you a round of golf free on your birthday month...
May is mine

good luck to those who don't fall in the winter months..

- phi1671

My dad used to golf year round as long as there was no snow on the ground. Think that stopped when he got to 85.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
clever...i see what you did there
- phi1671


I'm always up for a good pun any pun. Because puns are never good except to those that love them.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm always up for a good pun any pun. Because puns are never good except to those that love them.
- Flyskippy

The worst puns are always the best ones.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
The worst puns are always the best ones.
- BulliesPhan87

groaners.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
The worst puns are always the best ones.
- BulliesPhan87


so true...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
We have a better chance of trading for Alice than we do for Weber.

My understanding is that she could be had for a mid round pick plus a third/fourth liner like Harry Z

- Daman


Make that Rinaldo and get it done. I hear she's tough in the corners and doesn't take dumb penalties.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 29 @ 1:55 PM ET
Well, closing the gap between forwards and D isn't a change of system - it's players being more aware. It's like baserunning in baseball. You can't blame the 1B and 3B coaches for idiocy on the bases. For reference, please see: HAYES, VON.
- Flyskippy


I agree Skip. However, as a coach that has to be stressed and if players don't do it you have to have consequences for it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
Impossible to answer, but I like the talent level and age of their blueline.
- bradleyc4


No question. They have talent and then even if they make mistakes they have the King behind them.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 29 @ 1:59 PM ET
Well, closing the gap between forwards and D isn't a change of system - it's players being more aware. It's like baserunning in baseball. You can't blame the 1B and 3B coaches for idiocy on the bases. For reference, please see: HAYES, VON.
- Flyskippy


i feel like 80s skip was vehemently defending von against all the haters.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 29 @ 2:03 PM ET
Impossible to answer, but I like the talent level and age of their blueline.
- bradleyc4

Their top 4 is reallllly solid and reallly young... but the 3rd pair leaves something to be desired.

I also think a lot of their success is a result of the outstanding team defense, and mistakes being covered up by Lundqvist.

I honestly think that if we were to switch our d-men for theirs.. they wouldnt look nearly as good.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
Their top 4 is reallllly solid and reallly young... but the 3rd pair leaves something to be desired.

I also think a lot of their success is a result of the outstanding team defense, and mistakes being covered up by Lundqvist.

I honestly think that if we were to switch our d-men for theirs.. they wouldnt look nearly as good.

- jak521



I think all defenseman regardless of how good they are can be made to look bad without the lack of support from the team defensive game. As well as facing a relentless unending forecheck such as in the Devils Series where their own team is spending little time pressuring the opposition. Not saying that the defense didn't make any mistakes or didn't play poorly at times in that series also.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
Make that Rinaldo and get it done. I hear she's tough in the corners and doesn't take dumb penalties.
- Scoob



All joking aside for a second, I have a lot of respect for Rinaldo the way he came out against the Devils. For sure, took a dumb penalty, but he showed more energy than anyone else.

That being said, you have to give up something to get the quality of Alice.

Here is my new thread - players that we think shouldn't be traded but are not as valuable as we think:

Voracek, Simmonds, Read, Hartnell, Timmo (age), Mez

Yeah, I left JVR off that list.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
All joking aside for a second, I have a lot of respect for Rinaldo the way he came out against the Devils. For sure, took a dumb penalty, but he showed more energy than anyone else.

That being said, you have to give up something to get the quality of Alice.

Here is my new thread - players that we think shouldn't be traded but are not as valuable as we think:

Voracek, Simmonds, Read, Hartnell, Timmo (age), Mez

Yeah, I left JVR off that list.

- Daman



What makes those players you listed not as valuable as "we" think?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think all defenseman regardless of how good they are can be made to look bad without the lack of support from the team defensive game. As well as facing a relentless unending forecheck such as in the Devils Series where their own team is spending little time pressuring the opposition. Not saying that the defense didn't make any mistakes or didn't play poorly at times in that series also.
- MJL

I completely agree...

You could take 6 below average d-men and make them look damn good with great team defense and goal tending, or take 6 very solid d-men and make them look bad with porous team defense, lack of forward support, and poor goal-tending.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

May 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
So the last 3 cup winners, possibly 4, have all beaten the Flyers in the playoffs.

Which leads me to believe that the only way the Flyers will ever win the cup is to not allow themselves to be beaten by the eventual cup winner.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 29 @ 2:37 PM ET
So the last 3 cup winners, possibly 4, have all beaten the Flyers in the playoffs.

Which leads me to believe that the only way the Flyers will ever win the cup is to not allow themselves to be beaten by the eventual cup winner.

- feelingkettle

bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

May 29 @ 2:38 PM ET
So the last 3 cup winners, possibly 4, have all beaten the Flyers in the playoffs.

Which leads me to believe that the only way the Flyers will ever win the cup is to not allow themselves to be beaten by the eventual cup winner.

- feelingkettle

OH MY GUADE
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

May 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
OH MY GUADE
- bigmookalookie

I reacted the same exact way when I realized this.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
So the last 3 cup winners, possibly 4, have all beaten the Flyers in the playoffs.

Which leads me to believe that the only way the Flyers will ever win the cup is to not allow themselves to be beaten by the eventual cup winner.

- feelingkettle

The last three ws champs beat the Phils too
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
The last three ws champs beat the Phils too
- griouxmvp2012

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