I get what you are saying, but Detroit isn't getting worse. It can't - it's done. The downtown area is burned out. Besides, with the type of money the players are making and the area that they'll be buying a home... They don't have to worry about bad parts getting close - unless their is a zombie apocalypse. And, with the type of money these guys make - they could live in Canadian - Windsor.

ps. I think it's funny that most Flyers don't live in Philly or even PA... most live in NJ.
- leon neon

Not sure of the history of Vorhees and why it is the epicenter, but I'm sure a lot of it is proximity to practice.

Detroit vs. Vorhees - still don't think Suter is coming here.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?

1 Giroux (I would go a healthy Pronger #1 for the record)
2 Coburn
3 Grossman
4 Timmo
5 Bryz

Just off the top of my head but I have to think this one out. Can't believe my own rankings as of now.

holy moses
- Don'tForgetTocchet

...I have been deceived...

WHO GETS THE SONG REFERENCE!?
- Giroux_Is_God

Me. Now run for the Border.

Not sure of the history of Vorhees and why it is the epicenter, but I'm sure a lot of it is proximity to practice.

Detroit vs. Vorhees - still don't think Suter is coming here.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?
- Daman

Giroux
Timonen
Briere
Hartnell/Coburn
Bryz

So i was thinking about how great a job Homer did with the not so glamorous additions last year... the less sexy ones.

Talbot- What a fantastic grab. I think this was hands down the best of the less sexy moves, and possibly the best move of all.

Read- not a single person can honestly say that Read didnt go above and beyond their expectations.. what a great signing that has turned out to be.

Grossmann- At the time I wasnt sure it was gonna be a big move, in fact I thought it was just a move to sure up that bottom pair, but now that I have seen him in action, and what he brings... wow. We got a younger top 4 physical shutdown d-man for a 2nd? Great moves.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?
- Daman

1- Giroux
2- Timonen
3- Bryz
4-Hartnell
5-Talbot

Now going into next season... I think Coots is gonna be on there in place of Briere.

1- Giroux
2- Timonen
3- Bryz
4-Hartnell
5-Talbot

Now going into next season... I think Coots is gonna be on there in place of Briere.
- jak521

ummm...Briere isn't on your list

Not sure of the history of Vorhees and why it is the epicenter, but I'm sure a lot of it is proximity to practice.

Detroit vs. Vorhees - still don't think Suter is coming here.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?

1 Giroux (I would go a healthy Pronger #1 for the record)
2 Coburn
3 Grossman
4 Timmo
5 Bryz

Just off the top of my head but I have to think this one out. Can't believe my own rankings as of now.
- Daman

y u say no one gives a crap about your opinion? I'd remove the 2 and 3 rankings on your list and replace with Couturier and Briere or Carle. A year ago I'd have had Timmo much higher.

1- Giroux
2- Timonen
3- Bryz
4-Hartnell
5-Talbot

Now going into next season... I think Coots is gonna be on there in place of Briere.
- jak521

I like this list better actually.
Edit: I'd move Timmonen down tho.

ummm...Briere isn't on your list
- Dkos

hahahah.. i edited it right away.. I had Briere where Hartnell was, but thought otherwise.

Strike that comment from the record!

y u say no one gives a crap about your opinion? I'd remove the 2 and 3 rankings on your list and replace with Couturier and Briere or Carle. A year ago I'd have had Timmo much higher.
- JoeRussomanno

If Coburn (or someone) could figure out how to tap into his feisty/mean game on a nightly basis, he'd be right up there in my top 5.

Me. Now run for the Border.
- tangent_man

I knew you were a good man

I can play that song on the piano

If Coburn (or someone) could figure out how to tap into his feisty/mean game on a nightly basis, he'd be right up there in my top 5.
- tangent_man

no doubt.

Not sure of the history of Vorhees and why it is the epicenter, but I'm sure a lot of it is proximity to practice.

Detroit vs. Vorhees - still don't think Suter is coming here.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?

1 Giroux (I would go a healthy Pronger #1 for the record)
2 Coburn
3 Grossman
4 Timmo
5 Bryz

Just off the top of my head but I have to think this one out. Can't believe my own rankings as of now.
- Daman

Here is my initial logic. Giroux no brainer.

Coburn, IMO, steps up in the playoffs. Reminds me of Chris T playing Jagr.

Grossman b/c of the team performance after his arrival. And a physical D which we lack without Pronger.

Timmo b/c he is solid. Wears down a bit at year end which is why he isn't #2.

Bryz - complain if you will, but don't forget our history and past alternatives.


Briere is good (real good) but on a shift by shift basis, not always a force. Maybe a poor analogy, but sort of like Barry Sanders. Unstoppable on certain plays, but a lot of -2 and -3 yard plays b/c he is dancing around. Overall, I am describing a lack of consistent dominant play.

Hartnell - before this year I deemed him as the worst athlete I have seen on skates. My opinion has changed, but give me a good d-man in the playoffs.

no doubt.
- JoeRussomanno

Add JvR too...got off to a great start only to be brought down by injuries. I'd like to see the physical aspect we saw against the Bruins two seasons ago show up again, along with a year off of the IR list.

I would be interested in the reasoning behind his not having his surgical procedure yet...the earlier the better, right?

So i was thinking about how great a job Homer did with the not so glamorous additions last year... the less sexy ones.

Talbot- What a fantastic grab. I think this was hands down the best of the less sexy moves, and possibly the best move of all.

Read- not a single person can honestly say that Read didnt go above and beyond their expectations.. what a great signing that has turned out to be.

Grossmann- At the time I wasnt sure it was gonna be a big move, in fact I thought it was just a move to sure up that bottom pair, but now that I have seen him in action, and what he brings... wow. We got a younger top 4 physical shutdown d-man for a 2nd? Great moves.
- jak521

Talbot - fantastic grab - no doubt. Should be on 3rd line with Coots all season, barring injuries.

Read - agreed

Grossman - agreed. This was a steal of a trade.

I can play that song on the piano
- Giroux_Is_God

Nice!

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to bring in a vet like Jamie Langenbrunner this year like they did with Jagr last year? Someone that could be a role model on and off the ice for the kids, and maybe show the forwards how to play a better defensive game, much like Jagr did for forwards this year playing offensively?

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to bring in a vet line Jamie Langenbrunner this year like they did with Jagr last year? Someone that could be a role model on and off the ice for the kids, and maybe show the forwards how to play a better defensive game, much like Jagr did for forwards this year playing offensively?
- RooNosHockey

If Jagr walks, it most certainly is an option. You need a mix, and there are enough young guys on this team to warrant another mentor like that around.

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to bring in a vet like Jamie Langenbrunner this year like they did with Jagr last year? Someone that could be a role model on and off the ice for the kids, and maybe show the forwards how to play a better defensive game, much like Jagr did for forwards this year playing offensively?
- RooNosHockey

How bout nylander?

Add JvR too...got off to a great start only to be brought down by injuries. I'd like to see the physical aspect we saw against the Bruins two seasons ago show up again, along with a year off of the IR list.

I would be interested in the reasoning behind his not having his surgical procedure yet...the earlier the better, right?
- tangent_man

there's so many its hard to keep track.

Does anyone think that it would be a good idea to bring in a vet like Jamie Langenbrunner this year like they did with Jagr last year? Someone that could be a role model on and off the ice for the kids, and maybe show the forwards how to play a better defensive game, much like Jagr did for forwards this year playing offensively?
- RooNosHockey

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Always a good thing to being in a veteran presence on a young team for leadership and experience. Don't know if Langenbrunner is the right guy, but I realize that was just an example. It would be great for that vet to be a 4th line Center PKer, who can also move up and check well defensively late in games and take defensive zone draws.

Not sure of the history of Vorhees and why it is the epicenter, but I'm sure a lot of it is proximity to practice.

Detroit vs. Vorhees - still don't think Suter is coming here.

Since no one gives a crap about my opinion, I'll ask a question. If you had to rank the Flyers top 5 in all around skill, importance to the team, most valuable, whatever .... what would it be?

1 Giroux (I would go a healthy Pronger #1 for the record)
2 Coburn
3 Grossman
4 Timmo
5 Bryz

Just off the top of my head but I have to think this one out. Can't believe my own rankings as of now.
- Daman

Giroux
Bryzgalov
Coburn
Carle
Timonen.

Not neccessarily in that order.

\

Always a good thing to being in a veteran presence on a young team for leadership and experience. Don't know if Langenbrunner is the right guy, but I realize that was just an example. It would be great for that vet to be a 4th line Center PKer, who can also move up and check well defensively late in games and take defensive zone draws.
- MJL

Not sure if I am saying the same thing, but a guy like Fedotenko or Justin Williams seems perfect for the 3rd / 4th line. I would prefer this type of player over an aging, slow player like Jagr / Langenbrunner.

Jagr was great for the regular season but not a #1 for the playoffs.

I am sure if we trade a decent forward in the offseason they will have a career statistic year somewhere else (e.g. Versteeg, Lupol)

How bout nylander?
- funmaster18

Fantastic addition.