So Suter isn't going to consider the Red Wings because there are bad areas in Detroit, the unemployment rate is high, and the car industry is a dying?

None of these things mean a rats ass to any potential free agent.

1. Money
1A. Chance to win
2. Tradition

Those are the main reasons players sign where they do. If the Wings give Suter a 7 year 49 million dollar deal, just for sake of conversation, he will be in Detroit. I have been to Michigan before and there are some very nice suburban areas around Detroit.

Not really a hard concept to grasp, it's not like playing in Detroit is like playing in Baghdad.

My new article for Philadelphiaflyers.com is now online. It looks at the NHL Scouting Combine experience from the perspective of two Flyers -- James van Riemsdyk and Sean Couturier -- who went through the Combine in their draft year.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=633400

So Suter isn't going to consider the Red Wings because there are bad areas in Detroit, the unemployment rate is high, and the car industry is a dying?

None of these things mean a rats ass to any potential free agent.

1. Money
1A. Chance to win
2. Tradition

Those are the main reasons players sign where they do. If the Wings give Suter a 7 year 49 million dollar deal, just for sake of conversation, he will be in Detroit. I have been to Michigan before and there are some very nice suburban areas around Detroit.

Not really a hard concept to grasp, it's not like playing in Detroit is like playing in Baghdad.
- PLindbergh31

aside from those point, suter has said he doesn't want to go to a high pressure market. detroit certainly is one and replacing a legend on top of that.... major pressure

My new article for Philadelphiaflyers.com is now online. It looks at the NHL Scouting Combine experience from the perspective of two Flyers -- James van Riemsdyk and Sean Couturier -- who went through the Combine in their draft year.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=633400
- bmeltzer

Nice article, Bill. I recall the NHL Network doing a show about the Blues and their team at one of the Combines of the past. It's cool getting a better look into the inner workings of it - and the reactions of those who have been through the "receiving end" of it.

aside from those point, suter has said he doesn't want to go to a high pressure market. detroit certainly is one and replacing a legend on top of that.... major pressure
- flyerscup2011

Did he say that or is it rumored that he said that? Two different things that are nowadays blurred into one and the same.

aside from those point, suter has said he doesn't want to go to a high pressure market. detroit certainly is one and replacing a legend on top of that.... major pressure
- flyerscup2011

Has Suter actually said that, and been quoted saying that? Or has it been reported that he has said that?

Did he say that or is it rumored that he said that? Two different things that are nowadays blurred into one and the same.
- Flyskippy

Leight!

Did he say that or is it rumored that he said that? Two different things that are nowadays blurred into one and the same.
- Flyskippy

as far as i know "he's rumored to have said" it, but from as many reputable sources as has repeated that, i'd say he most likely said it.

aside from those point, suter has said he doesn't want to go to a high pressure market. detroit certainly is one and replacing a legend on top of that.... major pressure
- flyerscup2011

When a franchise has enjoyed the success the Red Wings have had, there isn't a ton of pressure.

There would be more pressure in Philadelphia or with the NYR than there would be in Detroit.

My new article for Philadelphiaflyers.com is now online. It looks at the NHL Scouting Combine experience from the perspective of two Flyers -- James van Riemsdyk and Sean Couturier -- who went through the Combine in their draft year.

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=633400
- bmeltzer

so whatever three letters said wasn't enought to get Cbus to move, eh. He probably told them he was injured so they wouldn't try to get him.

When a franchise has enjoyed the success the Red Wings have had, there isn't a ton of pressure.

There would be more pressure in Philadelphia or with the NYR than there would be in Detroit.
- PLindbergh31

well yea, but he wouldn't be the true replacement for a legend here or in ny

as far as i know "he's rumored to have said" it, but from as many reputable sources as has repeated that, i'd say he most likely said it.
- flyerscup2011

What are these reputable sources? And repeating it is the key. Because that's all that is being done. Multiple sources repeating the same thing. Do you think all those sources got it from a different source then the other?

When a franchise has enjoyed the success the Red Wings have had, there isn't a ton of pressure.

There would be more pressure in Philadelphia or with the NYR than there would be in Detroit.
- PLindbergh31

Now that I don't agree with. Detroit would be a very high pressure situation. They want to win it every year.

well yea, but he wouldn't be the true replacement for a legend here or in ny
- flyerscup2011

I think the fans in Detroit are intelligent enough to realize he wouldn't be replacing Lidstrom. The guy is one of the best d-men of all time, no one could replace his performance from his prime years. Suter could certainly replace the 41 yr old Lidstrom and he's the best UFA dman on the market by far. Detroit has a boatload of cash to spend, would be pretty surprised if Suter didn't end up in Detroit.

What are these reputable sources? And repeating it is the key. Because that's all that is being done. Multiple sources repeating the same thing. Do you think all those sources got it from a different source then the other?
- MJL

do you really expect me to go through every hockey source i follow on twitter to find out that piece of information? really? cuz i'm not gonna. i don't recall off the top of my head, but i've read it atleast 3 times. and how in the hell would i find out where they got their info from?

Now that I don't agree with. Detroit would be a very high pressure situation. They want to win it every year.
- MJL

Of course they want to win every year. Is that feasible? Of course not. When a team has had the success the Red Wings have had it buys them a grace period with the fans. Besides, top players in the NHL face no more pressure than the pressure they put on themselves.

The longer a franchise goes without winning, the more pressure there is.

And I'm going to go out on a limb and say that JoeRussomanno and RooNosHockey don't know what they're talking about.
- ChipBurger

I've been banned for less. Just saying.

Am i the only one who thinks Suter isnt going to phila or detroit?

Am i the only one who thinks Suter isnt going to phila or detroit?
- Daman

I don't think very many people think he is coming to Philadelphia.

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- Flyskippy

Those came free with the reinforced underside

do you really expect me to go through every hockey source i follow on twitter to find out that piece of information? really? cuz i'm not gonna. i don't recall off the top of my head, but i've read it atleast 3 times. and how in the hell would i find out where they got their info from?


- flyerscup2011

No I don't need you to do that. That is far from the point. My point is that they are all quoting the same so called "source". They're all just repeating the same thing like parrots.

Of course they want to win every year. Is that feasible? Of course not. When a team has had the success the Red Wings have had it buys them a grace period with the fans. Besides, top players in the NHL face no more pressure than the pressure they put on themselves.

The longer a franchise goes without winning, the more pressure there is.
- PLindbergh31

I don't think that grace period exists. The Red Wings just got knocked out early. Grace period if it did exist is over in Detroit.

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James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
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Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m)
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CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.755m) / Harry Zolnierczyk ($0.719m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.709m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Matt Carle ($4.738m) / Jason Garrison ($3.675m)
GOALTENDERS


Schenn will go down 1.75-----we'll have more money
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Martin Biron ($0.875m)
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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
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CAP SPACE (25-man roster): $1,032,556
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