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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 31 @ 11:50 AM ET
No doubt about it. Suter playing in Detroit as the replacement for Lidstrom. As well as signing a big free agent deal. He'd be under the ultimate microscope and in a boiling pot of water.
- MJL


Not to mention a lousy city. I would rather stay in Nashville.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

May 31 @ 11:58 AM ET
Just sign garrison. They should have room for that, and that's all they need. I think you can add 1.5 mil of space in there for schenns cap hit.
- Just5

I really think the Flyers should go after Garrison instead of a big name free agent. It wouldnt cost a (frank) ton and would get us another great defender to go with what the Flyers have.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

May 31 @ 11:59 AM ET
Not to mention a lousy city. I would rather stay in Nashville.
- RooNosHockey

Hell if that is the case then Weber can be had, for the right price lol. If that is the case I can see Homer calling Polie to see if he can get Weber. Gadddoooshhh
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 12:00 PM ET
Meh, it's that time of year for these silly rumors. They get thrown out there to try to drive up or down a player's price.
- bradleyc4


Garrioch ranks up there with Larry Wigge, Larry Brooks, and Panotch.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 31 @ 12:10 PM ET
I'm wrong
- MJL


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 31 @ 12:14 PM ET
little late and not sure if anyone posted this prior but

http://www.thestarphoenix...Flyers/6663497/story.html

- nastyflyergirl

Another Reader???
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

May 31 @ 12:15 PM ET
There's no way Buffalo would give up Myers with the asking price starting at JVR. Any move consisting of Myers would have to include Coots, Schenn, Read +.
- KGBflyers10



Just to clear this up...Buffalos asking price for Myers would be Giroux. Period.

Coots???? maybe we could talk McNabb
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 31 @ 12:16 PM ET
Pronger is on LTIR correct? What does that do for you?

Edit: I'm wrong there. You didn't include Pronger so he would have to be added to that total first. I didn't see that at first.

- MJL

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 31 @ 12:18 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

I think we need surprised baby from yesterday.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
I have always been the kind of guy that said he liked JVR, but would be okay if he were traded for the right pieces. However, I think right now that it would be a mistake to trade him, unless you can get someone to give full value. After last season, and his new contract, I can see JVR's value being at an all-time low. I would rather hold onto him for 1 more year at this point.

I'm starting to get a feeling like the best thing for the Flyers to do is trade for higher first round draft pick. I think it would be a good idea to get 2 d-men in the first round this year. IMO I would like something like the 10th pick and 15 pick.

Then you can resign Carle and maybe add another modest D-man through UFA. If you can land Shultz then you have 3 possible top D-men in the works.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
Not to mention a lousy city. I would rather stay in Nashville.
- RooNosHockey



Detroit is a great Hockey town. And I'm quite sure that there are some very nice suburban areas for a player to live around Detroit.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 31 @ 12:26 PM ET
Just to clear this up...Buffalos asking price for Myers would be Giroux. Period.

Coots???? maybe we could talk McNabb

- Ripped Fuel

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
I have always been the kind of guy that said he liked JVR, but would be okay if he were traded for the right pieces. However, I think right now that it would be a mistake to trade him, unless you can get someone to give full value. After last season, and his new contract, I can see JVR's value being at an all-time low. I would rather hold onto him for 1 more year at this point.

I'm starting to get a feeling like the best thing for the Flyers to do is trade for higher first round draft pick. I think it would be a good idea to get 2 d-men in the first round this year. IMO I would like something like the 10th pick and 15 pick.

Then you can resign Carle and maybe add another modest D-man through UFA. If you can land Shultz then you have 3 possible top D-men in the works.

- RooNosHockey


What are they trading to move up in the draft?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
Since he'd have to dress in all 82 games AND average 25-plus minutes of ice time per game for the entire year, the in-season cap hit will drop quickly even w/o the bonus cushion.
- bmeltzer



But the Flyers will have to account for the full Cap hit entering the Season. So the point is that the Flyers will not have those Cap savings until after the Season has already started, so it is not available for off season moves.
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

May 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Just to clear this up...Buffalos asking price for Myers would be Giroux. Period.

Coots???? maybe we could talk McNabb

- Ripped Fuel


an offer from a buffalo fan would be myers for giroux and schenn.

i wouldnt even trade jvr for myers straight up.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Detroit is a great Hockey town. And I'm quite sure that there are some very nice suburban areas for a player to live around Detroit.
- MJL

8-mile. Need I say more? As far as cities are concerned... IMO Detroit is a dump. Makes Philly look like El Dorado.

This has nothing to do with hockey town or not. But IMO if I am going to live in a big city, it would be one like LA, NY, Philly, or Washington.... Not Detroit.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
But the Flyers will have to account for the full Cap hit entering the Season. So the point is that the Flyers will not have those Cap savings until after the Season has already started, so it is not available for off season moves.
- MJL

Provided that verbiage remains the same in the new CBA, yes.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 12:30 PM ET
an offer from a buffalo fan would be myers for giroux and schenn.

i wouldnt even trade jvr for myers straight up.

- flyershockey

Wait... you know who nurk is, but not Ripped Fuel?!?
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

May 31 @ 12:32 PM ET

- RooNosHockey



whaddya know.....the same response I had when someone mentioned JVR for Myers...
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

May 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
Just to clear this up...Buffalos asking price for Myers would be Giroux. Period.

Coots???? maybe we could talk McNabb

- Ripped Fuel


Myers was heard saying though that it was always his dream to play for the Flyers.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

May 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
lets just agree....we keep myers.....you keep Giroux, Shenn, JVR.....and we call it a day.


Enjoy Gonchar. Hes a future Norris Trophy candidate
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
Myers was heard saying though that it was always his dream to play for the Flyers.
- hockeylover

Unless that was reported on FAN 590, it holds no water.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

May 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
Myers was heard saying though that it was always his dream to play for the Flyers.
- hockeylover



I heard that interview...it was on The Fan 590!!!!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 31 @ 12:36 PM ET
lets just agree....we keep myers.....you keep Giroux, Shenn, JVR.....and we call it a day.


Enjoy Gonchar. Hes a future Norris Trophy candidate if you play "Be A Pro" in NHL 13 with a player named "Sergei Gonchar"

- Ripped Fuel


Agreed
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 31 @ 12:36 PM ET
Provided that verbiage remains the same in the new CBA, yes.
- Flyskippy




Can they waive Timmonen in the offseason to their AHL club and get his salary off the cap number during the summer, then bring him back up when the season starts when they LTIR Pronger, just to free up that space over the summer?
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