Depends on the price. I can't see him getting a pay cut though...
- NickTheKid87

I would think the cap hit would be in the 3.0-3.5 range. I don't like it. Jagr played fairly well, and was good in the room, but 41yrs of age, battling lower extremity injuries much of last year. Money can be spent more wisely elsewhere.

Seems like there are whispers of the Flyers re-signing Jagr. Not a wise decision imo.
- PLindbergh31

It depends on the cost... if he takes a pay cut Id say its not a bad idea.. the same cap, not sure its the wisest decision, but wouldnt say its a bad idea...

I would think the cap hit would be in the 3.0-3.5 range. I don't like it. Jagr played fairly well, and was good in the room, but 41yrs of age, battling lower extremity injuries much of last year. Money can be spent more wisely elsewhere.
- PLindbergh31

I agree

The book on Akeson is that he isn't strong enough for the NHL. Tons of skill though. I have my figures crossed that he will be Marty St. Louis 2.0
- NickTheKid87

He's 5'10, 190. He's not St. Louis small. He's basically Brieres size.

He had a tremendous first year in the AHL. I saw him play several times, including live twice. His overall game translated quite well, much better then I expected. The offense was there too. He probably needs another a full year in the A, but I'd like him to at least get a cup of coffee this season with the Flyers, especially if he continues to progress.

I'm not liking it either. Felt that he really wore down in the playoffs and showed his age. Also I think this team should have absorbed whatever leadership/guidance he had to offer and has players that can step up into that first line spot.
- JoeRussomanno

Agree 100%. Good soldier, still talented, but father time is undefeated.

Your right they are different people. Radulov played most of the year in the KHL. He comes into Nashville and in less than a month he gets into trouble with the team. He's young and immature and could change his ways but is it worth the risk?

I say NO for a team that has other issues and who will be up against the cap like every year. The Flyers scoring isnt the issue, its the defense (team included).
- stveshdy

Zherdev was bad in Columbus. Bad in New York. Bad in Russia, before coming to the Flyers... He has never won anything of mention.

Radulov was an MVP on his cham winning Junior team. He was a good player in Nashville before skipping out on his contract. There were no "work" issues, or personal issues with him before this, which made it all the more wierd. He then went to KHL and won the league MVP 3 times and the champ once... There were no work or personal issues there. He comes back to Nashville and goes out drinking the night before a playofss game...

Is it possible Radulov is a good player and hard worker that made a mistake, and upen his return was shunned by the players he abandonded, so he acted up?

I would take a chance on a 4 time league MVP and scoring title holder...

There are gonna be a few d-men that could be had this offseason without giving up a single asset at all. In fact (assuming they dont get resigned) a few would be a very good fit for us right now.

I am just hesitant to trade away some of these young guys who are gonna be very good very soon.
- jak521

Thats the choice the Flyers will have to make. Enstrom is an All-Star so other than Suter who is available on the UFA market? Suter is going to command big time money and who knows if he even wants to play here based on rumors.

I would think the cap hit would be in the 3.0-3.5 range. I don't like it. Jagr played fairly well, and was good in the room, but 41yrs of age, battling lower extremity injuries much of last year. Money can be spent more wisely elsewhere.
- PLindbergh31

I don't want to resign Jagr back but apparently the Flyers believe he is an important piece if they do agree to a contract.

Seems like there are whispers of the Flyers re-signing Jagr. Not a wise decision imo.
- PLindbergh31

It's a very wise decision IMO on the right deal. Jagr was huge in the room this year.

Not to mention he's already said...

"I know I'm playing next year, and I want it to be in Philly. I learned a lot about the game this year, and I know now that I can still play in the NHL. The game has changed since I left, and I learned a lot even as the season went on. Next year I will be even better, regardless where I play"

As crazy as it sounds, I am confident in his statement. I think as long as he's healthy, we will get even more out of Jagr next year then we did this year. Keep him on a line with G and Hartnell, and it's one line we never have to touch.

Agree 100%. Good soldier, still talented, but father time is undefeated.
- PLindbergh31

not true. the Illuminati have defeated him. they can do anything.

Thats the choice the Flyers will have to make. Enstrom is an All-Star so other than Suter who is available on the UFA market? Suter is going to command big time money and who knows if he even wants to play here based on rumors.
- stveshdy

Enstrom is a FA next year. I want him in the right deal, but in no way should we overpay for him. With the money thats coming off the books next year, theres no way were out of his price range. Just whether he wants to play here.

Zherdev was bad in Columbus. Bad in New York. Bad in Russia, before coming to the Flyers... He has never won anything of mention.

Radulov was an MVP on his cham winning Junior team. He was a good player in Nashville before skipping out on his contract. There were no "work" issues, or personal issues with him before this, which made it all the more wierd. He then went to KHL and won the league MVP 3 times and the champ once... There were no work or personal issues there. He comes back to Nashville and goes out drinking the night before a playofss game...

Is it possible Radulov is a good player and hard worker that made a mistake, and upen his return was shunned by the players he abandonded, so he acted up?

I would take a chance on a 4 time league MVP and scoring title holder...
- RooNosHockey

Radulov being a healthy scratch in playoff games his team was desperate for offense speaks volumes. No one can argue he isn't a gifted player, but the work ethic, and commitment can be questioned every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Breaking team rules during the playoffs? Seriously? No thanks

Zherdev was bad in Columbus. Bad in New York. Bad in Russia, before coming to the Flyers... He has never won anything of mention.

Radulov was an MVP on his cham winning Junior team. He was a good player in Nashville before skipping out on his contract. There were no "work" issues, or personal issues with him before this, which made it all the more wierd. He then went to KHL and won the league MVP 3 times and the champ once... There were no work or personal issues there. He comes back to Nashville and goes out drinking the night before a playofss game...

Is it possible Radulov is a good player and hard worker that made a mistake, and upen his return was shunned by the players he abandonded, so he acted up?

I would take a chance on a 4 time league MVP and scoring title holder...
- RooNosHockey

I'm not going to change your opinion. We just have different views on him.

I'm not liking it either. Felt that he really wore down in the playoffs and showed his age. Also I think this team should have absorbed whatever leadership/guidance he had to offer and has players that can step up into that first line spot.
- JoeRussomanno

Can't we make excuses for Jagr breaking down like we did for Bryz not playing well in the first half the year? Let me try.

Well. Last year he went right from KHL to WC, and then right to training camp to work extra hard to get back into NHL shape. He tired out at the end, but a well rested Jagr this year will be healthier and more rested for the playoffs, thus he should be able to produce like he did in the first half of the season, all year next year.

Enstrom is a FA next year. I want him in the right deal, but in no way should we overpay for him. With the money thats coming off the books next year, theres no way were out of his price range. Just whether he wants to play here.
- mochoson

Enstrom is a free agent next year but if you trade for him now you have the advantage to resign him without competing against every other team. We see teams give out ridiculous contracts to players in the free agent market bc they are the best available.

Agree 100%. Good soldier, still talented, but father time is undefeated.
- PLindbergh31

He's supposedly basing his decision partly on some sort of guarantee that he'll play on the top 2 lines. That means (baring too many injuries), big minutes which translates into what we've already witnessed - a tired player in the second round of the PO's. How does that help?

Now if he's willing to sign between 2 and 2.5 mil, I'd maybe consider it.

He's 5'10, 190. He's not St. Louis small. He's basically Brieres size.

He had a tremendous first year in the AHL. I saw him play several times, including live twice. His overall game translated quite well, much better then I expected. The offense was there too. He probably needs another a full year in the A, but I'd like him to at least get a cup of coffee this season with the Flyers, especially if he continues to progress.
- mochoson

How is he defensively? If he's not good enough defensively to be a 4th line guy and not good enough offensively at the NHL level to be a top 6 guy then he'll be out of luck. Similar to that of Andreas Nodl. I know he's put up offensive numbers where every he has played but having that translate to the NHL is another beast.

But have you ever seen them together in a room at the same time?
- 77rams

WC?

It's a very wise decision IMO on the right deal. Jagr was huge in the room this year.

Not to mention he's already said...

"I know I'm playing next year, and I want it to be in Philly. I learned a lot about the game this year, and I know now that I can still play in the NHL. The game has changed since I left, and I learned a lot even as the season went on. Next year I will be even better, regardless where I play"

As crazy as it sounds, I am confident in his statement. I think as long as he's healthy, we will get even more out of Jagr next year then we did this year. Keep him on a line with G and Hartnell, and it's one line we never have to touch.
- mochoson

Fair points, but I'm not sure how he is going to get healthier, as he gets older. Those two things don't usually jive.

Edit: Unless his minutes are monitored, and he plays less of a prominent role, but those kind of defeat the purpose of signing him.

It's a very wise decision IMO on the right deal. Jagr was huge in the room this year.

Not to mention he's already said...

"I know I'm playing next year, and I want it to be in Philly. I learned a lot about the game this year, and I know now that I can still play in the NHL. The game has changed since I left, and I learned a lot even as the season went on. Next year I will be even better, regardless where I play"

As crazy as it sounds, I am confident in his statement. I think as long as he's healthy, we will get even more out of Jagr next year then we did this year. Keep him on a line with G and Hartnell, and it's one line we never have to touch.
- mochoson

I agree. And Maybe he could mentor Radulov... Okay I stop now.

WC?
- RooNosHockey

water closet? what exactly are you trying to say here...

Fair points, but I'm not sure how he is going to get healthier, as he gets older. Those two things don't usually jive.

Edit: In less his minutes are monitored, and he plays less of a prominent role, but those kind of defeat the purpose of signing him.
- PLindbergh31

Unless you are that weird looking 70 year old guy in the infomercial who looks like a geezer except for having the body of conan the barbarian.

I think Enstrom is alot better all around defensman than he's getting credit for here. He's one of the best outlet passes in the game currently and realistically this could be Timonens last year.
Lets not forget that Tobie Enstrom is paired with Big Buff who really does not know how to play defense, he's more like a foward trying to play defence. Oh wait.

And i would say Radulov is nothing like Zherdev on the ice. Zherdev had no desire to play yet he was highly skilled. Radulov is also highly skilled but brings it when he plays, he is a elite talent and was on the verge of having a superstar breakout before leaving the NHL and he went and did that elsewhere, I for one would not have a issue giving him a chance at the right price if we were to move roster fowards for Enstrom.

Unless you are that weird looking 70 year old guy in the infomercial who looks like a geezer except for having the body of conan the barbarian.
- wilsonecho91

Can't we make excuses for Jagr breaking down like we did for Bryz not playing well in the first half the year? Let me try.

Well. Last year he went right from KHL to WC, and then right to training camp to work extra hard to get back into NHL shape. He tired out at the end, but a well rested Jagr this year will be healthier and more rested for the playoffs, thus he should be able to produce like he did in the first half of the season, all year next year.
- RooNosHockey

is it the wrong move to resign Jagr or the right move...
there will always be people on both sides of the fence. I think his history and work ethic will assist this young team moving forward. I always believe in a veteran influence even if it may take away some ice time from a younger player. The leadership, the training, the dedication and right way of playing hockey is something that is always needed on a team.
I truly believe Guerin helped the Pens and pushed them over the top to win the cup. Reechi helped the Bruins...
The Flyers have missed that forward leadership person since Knuble left.
Jagr will be better next year, he knows how grueling a season can be...