Zherdev was bad in Columbus. Bad in New York. Bad in Russia, before coming to the Flyers... He has never won anything of mention.

Radulov was an MVP on his cham winning Junior team. He was a good player in Nashville before skipping out on his contract. There were no "work" issues, or personal issues with him before this, which made it all the more wierd. He then went to KHL and won the league MVP 3 times and the champ once... There were no work or personal issues there. He comes back to Nashville and goes out drinking the night before a playofss game...

Is it possible Radulov is a good player and hard worker that made a mistake, and upen his return was shunned by the players he abandonded, so he acted up?

I would take a chance on a 4 time league MVP and scoring title holder...
- RooNosHockey

Sound reasoning.

But I'd still pass.

I think Enstrom is alot better all around defensman than he's getting credit for here. He's one of the best outlet passes in the game currently and realistically this could be Timonens last year.
Lets not forget that Tobie Enstrom is paired with Big Buff who really does not know how to play defense, he's more like a foward trying to play defence. Oh wait.

And i would say Radulov is nothing like Zherdev on the ice. Zherdev had no desire to play yet he was highly skilled. Radulov is also highly skilled but brings it when he plays, he is a elite talent and was on the verge of having a superstar breakout before leaving the NHL and he went and did that elsewhere, I for one would not have a issue giving him a chance at the right price if we were to move roster fowards for Enstrom.
- jimlahey18

How do you explain Radulov being suspended by the Preds when they were desperate for offense in the series with Phoenix?

He's supposedly basing his decision partly on some sort of guarantee that he'll play on the top 2 lines. That means (baring too many injuries), big minutes which translates into what we've already witnessed - a tired player in the second round of the PO's. How does that help?

Now if he's willing to sign between 2 and 2.5 mil, I'd maybe consider it.
- 77rams

Jagr played well in Pittsburgh, but said he got hurt in game 6 in Pittsburgh. The guy was hurt. Just like Giroux. He makes this team better. He gives Giroux so many options. The way he takes the puck into the zone and 3 defenders colapse on him... That opens Giroux and hartnell up, and puts the "defense" on thier heels scrambling to get back into position.

Sound reasoning.

But I'd still pass.
- 77rams

Some people may have all the talent in the world but will they be a fit on this team? I don't think so....
the same can be said with Zherdev...
great talent, bad fit...

i would not waste the money.

Thats the choice the Flyers will have to make. Enstrom is an All-Star so other than Suter who is available on the UFA market? Suter is going to command big time money and who knows if he even wants to play here based on rumors.
- stveshdy

That is where I think we differ.

I dont think we need to go out and add an all-star d-man.

I think we need to address team defense, and add a true 5th-6th d-man this season, and address Timonen leaving when he leaves.

If we were to go out and add Enstrom our defense would look like this..

Enstrom-Carle
Timonen-Meszy
Coburn-Gross

That would be a very freaking good defense.. however, you would have to give up a pretty solid forward..

Why not hold on to that forward and try to add a FA like Garrison or Weaver.
Timonen-Carle
Coburn-Gross
Meszy-Garrison/Weaver


Then next offseason fill Timonens spot.

How do you explain Radulov being suspended by the Preds when they were desperate for offense in the series with Phoenix?
- PLindbergh31

Honest mistake. Everyone deserves a second chance, in NY. Let the Rags have him. Thats the latest rumor I read around the world of the internet.

Honest mistake. Everyone deserves a second chance, in NY. Let the Rags have him. Thats the latest rumor I read around the world of the internet.
- stveshdy

Radulov playing for Tortorella? He would be in Hartford with Avery by Christmas

I think Enstrom is alot better all around defensman than he's getting credit for here. He's one of the best outlet passes in the game currently and realistically this could be Timonens last year.
Lets not forget that Tobie Enstrom is paired with Big Buff who really does not know how to play defense, he's more like a foward trying to play defence. Oh wait.

And i would say Radulov is nothing like Zherdev on the ice. Zherdev had no desire to play yet he was highly skilled. Radulov is also highly skilled but brings it when he plays, he is a elite talent and was on the verge of having a superstar breakout before leaving the NHL and he went and did that elsewhere, I for one would not have a issue giving him a chance at the right price if we were to move roster fowards for Enstrom.
- jimlahey18

Radulov would not work here regardless. He has baggage and a lot of hype: two things that the media here would exploit to the nth degree. Look what happened to Bryz the first half of the year after signing that monster deal. He could stop 1000 shots in a row and then allow a soft goal and the media and fans would tear him apart. Radulov would get the same treatment: One mistake is unacceptable.

I think Enstrom is alot better all around defensman than he's getting credit for here. He's one of the best outlet passes in the game currently and realistically this could be Timonens last year.
Lets not forget that Tobie Enstrom is paired with Big Buff who really does not know how to play defense, he's more like a foward trying to play defence. Oh wait.

And i would say Radulov is nothing like Zherdev on the ice. Zherdev had no desire to play yet he was highly skilled. Radulov is also highly skilled but brings it when he plays, he is a elite talent and was on the verge of having a superstar breakout before leaving the NHL and he went and did that elsewhere, I for one would not have a issue giving him a chance at the right price if we were to move roster fowards for Enstrom.
- jimlahey18

I guess you missed Keith Jones famous rant?

As for Enstrom.. he is an excellent all around d-man... just not my first choice.

That is where I think we differ.

I dont think we need to go out and add an all-star d-man.

I think we need to address team defense, and add a true 5th-6th d-man this season, and address Timonen leaving when he leaves.

If we were to go out and add Enstrom our defense would look like this..

Enstrom-Carle
Timonen-Meszy
Coburn-Gross

That would be a very freaking good defense.. however, you would have to give up a pretty solid forward..

Why not hold on to that forward and try to add a FA like Garrison or Weaver.
Timonen-Carle
Coburn-Gross
Meszy-Garrison/Weaver


Then next offseason fill Timonens spot.
- jak521

I'm not against that. We are also assuming that Carle doesnt hit free agency. He may not be with the team if they dont agree to terms. I think by trading for Enstrom he automatically becomes your best defenseman on the roster. If they decide to wait and can land another defenseman I would be fine with that to. I dont need to get Enstrom but if the Flyers are trying to upgrade defense I dont see them going for a 5-6th defenseman with Pronger being done and Timonen possibly starting the year on LTIR also.

That is where I think we differ.

I dont think we need to go out and add an all-star d-man.

I think we need to address team defense, and add a true 5th-6th d-man this season, and address Timonen leaving when he leaves.

If we were to go out and add Enstrom our defense would look like this..

Enstrom-Carle
Timonen-Meszy
Coburn-Gross

That would be a very freaking good defense.. however, you would have to give up a pretty solid forward..

Why not hold on to that forward and try to add a FA like Garrison or Weaver.
Timonen-Carle
Coburn-Gross
Meszy-Garrison/Weaver


Then next offseason fill Timonens spot.
- jak521

I'm all for this. Don't need to make a major move (unless for Weber) IMO

Sound reasoning.
But I'd still pass.
- 77rams

I will accept this. Good way to shut me up.

I'm all for this. Don't need to make a major move (unless for Weber) IMO
- NickTheKid87

Why not just roll with MAB at the #6 spot then. Why even overpay for a defenseman on the market?

Can't we make excuses for Jagr breaking down like we did for Bryz not playing well in the first half the year? Let me try.

Well. Last year he went right from KHL to WC, and then right to training camp to work extra hard to get back into NHL shape. He tired out at the end, but a well rested Jagr this year will be healthier and more rested for the playoffs, thus he should be able to produce like he did in the first half of the season, all year next year.
- RooNosHockey

were comparing tire irons to tomato sauce here. But that's fine however I'm not willing to roll the dice on a 41 year old player getting better.

Can't we make excuses for Jagr breaking down like we did for Bryz not playing well in the first half the year? Let me try.

Well. Last year he went right from KHL to WC, and then right to training camp to work extra hard to get back into NHL shape. He tired out at the end, but a well rested Jagr this year will be healthier and more rested for the playoffs, thus he should be able to produce like he did in the first half of the season, all year next year.
- RooNosHockey

We are gonna be so awesome next year when those 2 rip it up all the way to the cup.

If Jagr resigns do they almost have to look at trades up front. Not sure how you split minutes up and keep everyone happy and progressing. Coots needs more time and so does Schenn.

Why not just roll with MAB at the #6 spot then. Why even overpay for a defenseman on the market?
- stveshdy

I like Garrison as a defenseman. Plus Timonen most likely won't play 82 games and there would be other injuries as well through the course of the year. Lilja and MAB as 7th dmen is favorable.

How do you explain Radulov being suspended by the Preds when they were desperate for offense in the series with Phoenix?
- PLindbergh31

The real question is would the Preds have suspended Kostitsyn if it was with someone other than Radulov, you gotta think that the Preds wanted to make a statment with him coming back that if he wants to play he plays by their rules. The first game they were gone for it worked the team rallied and won without them, So the preds keep them suspended another game which they lost. So they bring them back and lose in 5. If nashville had not won game 3 they would have been back for game 4 it was plain and simple sending a msg to radulov for making them look like fools for years and Kostitsyn got the same punishment just to be consistent.

Radulov would not work here regardless. He has baggage and a lot of hype: two things that the media here would exploit to the nth degree. Look what happened to Bryz the first half of the year after signing that monster deal. He could stop 1000 shots in a row and then allow a soft goal and the media and fans would tear him apart. Radulov would get the same treatment: One mistake is unacceptable.
- NickTheKid87

You could of said the media would have done the same to Jagr if he faltered 1 bit, but he didnt, and after a month there were no doubters... Jagr in Philly.... and no whistles... Never would have thought he would have fit either.

If Radulov came here, the first time he flattened someone on his way to the net al la Eric Lindros (not compairing them, just giving a mental picture) he would be a hero.

Jagr played well in Pittsburgh, but said he got hurt in game 6 in Pittsburgh. The guy was hurt. Just like Giroux. He makes this team better. He gives Giroux so many options. The way he takes the puck into the zone and 3 defenders colapse on him... That opens Giroux and hartnell up, and puts the "defense" on thier heels scrambling to get back into position.
- RooNosHockey

There was a big drop off for home last 3rd of the season, but I do believe he knows better what I expect, how his body will react, how to prepare better, etc. I think he see the same or maybe even better production from him this year. The flyers will also know better how to monitor his health and minutes as the season wears on. Don't forget all the injuries they had this year which added to his expectations to pick up the slack. With hopefully JVR and Schenn healthy in early goings, I see the flyers having a much more balanced attack from the forwards.

Jagr played well in Pittsburgh, but said he got hurt in game 6 in Pittsburgh. The guy was hurt. Just like Giroux. He makes this team better. He gives Giroux so many options. The way he takes the puck into the zone and 3 defenders colapse on him... That opens Giroux and hartnell up, and puts the "defense" on thier heels scrambling to get back into position.
- RooNosHockey

I give the guy a ton of credit. His training, locker room presence, and self commitment was terrific.

I'm just not so sure I'd want to sink over 3 mil in a 41 year old with chronic leg issues.

We are gonna be so awesome next year when those 2 rip it up all the way to the cup.

If Jagr resigns do they almost have to look at trades up front. Not sure how you split minutes up and keep everyone happy and progressing. Coots needs more time and so does Schenn.
- fnmjoe13

once the season gets going, the minutes will be divided properly. You earn your time and Jagr knows this...Coots knows this as well plus, he will have time to learn once again.

were comparing tire irons to tomato sauce here. But that's fine however I'm not willing to roll the dice on a 41 year old player getting better.
- JoeRussomanno

Selannie has been able to maintain his level of play the last 3 years.

I will accept this. Good way to shut me up.
- RooNosHockey

Not my intention by any means.

I like Garrison as a defenseman. Plus Timonen most likely won't play 82 games and there would be other injuries as well through the course of the year. Lilja and MAB as 7th dmen is favorable.
- NickTheKid87

I don't expect Homer to sit tight. He knows his two best defenseman are history (Timonen and Pronger). He has a tough decision to make with Carle. He has to resign Voracek to a decent cap hit. Now rumors about Jagr you know that money will be around the same. I dont see anyway they can add a legit UFA without trading a forward. So if your going to trade a forward why not do it for an All-Star player like Enstrom or any other available?

I give the guy a ton of credit. His training, locker room presence, and self commitment was terrific.

I'm just not so sure I'd want to sink over 3 mil in a 41 year old with chronic leg issues.
- 77rams

he might be 41 but he know knows how to train due to the smaller ice surface. We shall see...

I still believe the Flyers will make a few moves to surprise us all...